From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JeCui-0003QE-Pu for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:26:21 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B71C6E056E; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:26:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.174]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7A4E056E for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:26:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 27so2615199wfd.10 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:26:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=LrfzqsZ60pMQ2zHMxJ8+9fB/DABoSE0+LKgPPm17FTQ=; b=Fosdm2RDzcIKpT0azt9Lk2IM24pM3EH0PB6ozmY4VaWTJNsV7wO3NhDSwEmNq3Stk3xUumQMgkKWdl5HzYliQTKn1cgAGYuyBXjbpy8YQr19ckXl/SoS0LcnBlv4cNPsUTqFs92DVezT4gY+hqs8MjJ6Y6GyHDsZJXfXHz8PtJg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cz+b9iWw677KoOwoMu/g+mAUZf2HX7KG2Q1NQDsIGoTDgmFRDXK7KRY458qwK0aY0PQhzl0H2jYuuYO5NsbtyD48YfdYiN8RLowr2IhOAANBgVIow5e1iA1xK0F1IBxKPePIFk6v4T72skLH38f2KvxB8IedibBrn9A+tJZvUpI= Received: by 10.142.178.13 with SMTP id a13mr4216049wff.146.1206465975115; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:26:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.13.5 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:26:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49bf44f10803251026r2be68be2ud30a5c07dbd64c5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:26:15 -0700 From: Grant To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Recovering root password In-Reply-To: <200803251904.04255.uwix@iway.na> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <49bf44f10803241330r3b447b4bkde7a062c73905b94@mail.gmail.com> <200803251728.18275.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <49bf44f10803250932q138a1627mba929844d0218689@mail.gmail.com> <200803251904.04255.uwix@iway.na> X-Archives-Salt: 5fd1bd17-ea34-4612-90bf-3efddbb9ed35 X-Archives-Hash: 1287c60b6a09759bb79ccda8151a3101 > > > > > On a notebook, there isn't an OS in existence that is immune > > > > > to a LiveCD. > > > > > > > > Linux is. In the sense that you can't get at the data if the > > > > disc is encrypted, even not with a LiveCD. You can only > > > > destroy/overwrite it. > > > > > > Yes, I realised that when typing the original, but left it as is > > > - too many IF conditionals would be needed to be accurate and > > > English is almost useless at getting IFs to parse correctly :-) > > > > > > Passwords come from a time when users had terminals that log > > > onto machines that are somewhere else and the user can't lay a > > > finger on them. Things have indeed changed since 1978 > > > > Would the type of filesystem encryption you guys are talking about > > be unsuitable for a high-traffic server because of performance > > considerations? > > Yes, and it isn't necessary. You lock your servers away so that nobody > has physical access to them. Sounds like co-location right? I just have a hosted dedicated machine. The thing that's always kept me from co-locating is hardware failure. That would be a "my problem" in a co-located environment rather than a "their problem" right? - Grant > It's only interesting for workstations, laptops and external storage > devices. > > > Uwe -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list