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* [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 as a dependency
@ 2006-09-29 21:53 Grant
  2006-09-29 21:59 ` Daniel Iliev
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From: Grant @ 2006-09-29 21:53 UTC (permalink / raw
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I'm setting up a new system and I've noticed that xorg-x11 isn't
emerged as a dependency of mozilla-firefox or xfce4, although neither
of them will run without it.  Can anyone tell me why this is?

- Grant
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* Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 as a dependency
  2006-09-29 21:53 [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 as a dependency Grant
@ 2006-09-29 21:59 ` Daniel Iliev
  2006-09-29 22:56 ` Richard Fish
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From: Daniel Iliev @ 2006-09-29 21:59 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Grant wrote:
> I'm setting up a new system and I've noticed that xorg-x11 isn't
> emerged as a dependency of mozilla-firefox or xfce4, although neither
> of them will run without it.  Can anyone tell me why this is?
>
> - Grant
You could run firefox for example on a remote X server...

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* Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 as a dependency
  2006-09-29 21:53 [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 as a dependency Grant
  2006-09-29 21:59 ` Daniel Iliev
@ 2006-09-29 22:56 ` Richard Fish
  2006-09-29 23:13 ` [gentoo-user] " Harm Geerts
  2006-09-30  1:24 ` [gentoo-user] " Iain Buchanan
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Richard Fish @ 2006-09-29 22:56 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On 9/29/06, Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm setting up a new system and I've noticed that xorg-x11 isn't
> emerged as a dependency of mozilla-firefox or xfce4, although neither
> of them will run without it.  Can anyone tell me why this is?

This is because of the change to modular X.  xorg-x11 is now just a
meta-package that brings in all of the xorg packages.  Other packages
in the tree are *not* supposed to depend on xorg-x11, but only on
those specific packages that they really require to run.

If you want an X server locally, you need to also merge xorg-server.

-Richard
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* [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-x11 as a dependency
  2006-09-29 21:53 [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 as a dependency Grant
  2006-09-29 21:59 ` Daniel Iliev
  2006-09-29 22:56 ` Richard Fish
@ 2006-09-29 23:13 ` Harm Geerts
  2006-09-30  1:24 ` [gentoo-user] " Iain Buchanan
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Harm Geerts @ 2006-09-29 23:13 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Friday 29 September 2006 23:53, Grant wrote:
> I'm setting up a new system and I've noticed that xorg-x11 isn't
> emerged as a dependency of mozilla-firefox or xfce4, although neither
> of them will run without it.  Can anyone tell me why this is?

xorg-x11 is a meta package that provides much more then is needed to run 
firefox or xfce. Like Daniel says it's possible to use them on a remote X 
server, so there is no need for a full blown X server installation.

The packages depend only on the parts of xorg that are needed to run it.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 as a dependency
  2006-09-29 21:53 [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 as a dependency Grant
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2006-09-29 23:13 ` [gentoo-user] " Harm Geerts
@ 2006-09-30  1:24 ` Iain Buchanan
  2006-09-30 23:02   ` Grant
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Iain Buchanan @ 2006-09-30  1:24 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Fri, 2006-09-29 at 14:53 -0700, Grant wrote:
> I'm setting up a new system and I've noticed that xorg-x11 isn't
> emerged as a dependency of mozilla-firefox or xfce4, although neither
> of them will run without it.  Can anyone tell me why this is?

it also depends on what you define as the normal use of your machine -
if you say that your machine is a "desktop" machine, then you _want_ X
to be a dependancy of firefox, etc.

If however you are setting up a server, then you _don't_ want X to be a
dependancy of such.

The way to define this, is of course with you profile.  If you've just
set up a new machine, you may have overlooked the fact that there are
now different profiles.

/etc/make.profile used to point to (eg)
../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.0

now it should point to
../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.1/desktop
or
../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.1/server

HTH,
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* Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 as a dependency
  2006-09-30  1:24 ` [gentoo-user] " Iain Buchanan
@ 2006-09-30 23:02   ` Grant
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Grant @ 2006-09-30 23:02 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

> > I'm setting up a new system and I've noticed that xorg-x11 isn't
> > emerged as a dependency of mozilla-firefox or xfce4, although neither
> > of them will run without it.  Can anyone tell me why this is?
>
> it also depends on what you define as the normal use of your machine -
> if you say that your machine is a "desktop" machine, then you _want_ X
> to be a dependancy of firefox, etc.
>
> If however you are setting up a server, then you _don't_ want X to be a
> dependancy of such.
>
> The way to define this, is of course with you profile.  If you've just
> set up a new machine, you may have overlooked the fact that there are
> now different profiles.
>
> /etc/make.profile used to point to (eg)
> ../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.0
>
> now it should point to
> ../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.1/desktop
> or
> ../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.1/server

I looked at the amd64 subprofiles during installation but I didn't
specify one because I didn't see a hardened choice.  I should have
specified desktop.

- Grant
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