[gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Dale]

Hi,

I have a Canon PowerShot A95 camera that until today worked fine.  Gtkam
could see it and download my pictures.  I'm on the same old kernel but
did upgrade some stuff recently. 

If you have been here more than a few days, you know I tried the new
xorg-server then downgraded.  I'm not sure if something got upgraded
that I need to downgrade again or what.  How would I go about finding
out what to downgrade or even check?  Nothing sees my camera at all. 
This is the output I get:

root@smoker / # lsusb
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
root@smoker / #

Hmmm, looks like my printer isn't found either.  Nope, I can't print
either.  Looks like something borked my USB stuff. 

I can't find anything on the forums about this either.  Ideas?

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[pk]

Dale wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a Canon PowerShot A95 camera that until today worked fine.  Gtkam
> could see it and download my pictures.  I'm on the same old kernel but
> did upgrade some stuff recently. 

UDEV?

Also, there might be other stuff that messes with the udev rules
(libgphoto2, which is the backend of gtkam, has its own udev rules).
Check your /etc/udev/rules.d/ to see if there are any changes...

Best regards

Peter K

Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Dale]

pk wrote:
> Dale wrote:
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a Canon PowerShot A95 camera that until today worked fine.  Gtkam
>> could see it and download my pictures.  I'm on the same old kernel but
>> did upgrade some stuff recently. 
>>     
>
> UDEV?
>
> Also, there might be other stuff that messes with the udev rules
> (libgphoto2, which is the backend of gtkam, has its own udev rules).
> Check your /etc/udev/rules.d/ to see if there are any changes...
>
> Best regards
>
> Peter K
>
>
>   

I ran udevadm monitor and then turned on the camera.  It didn't see
anything either.  It acts like it is not plugged in. 

I also tried to run gtkam as root and it saw nothing either.  I don't
think it is a permissions issue, which I have had a long time ago. 

I did check for the udev rules and it was updated a couple weeks ago. 
I'll reemerge libgphoto and friends.  Maybe it will help.

Open to other ideas tho.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Paul Hartman]

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> pk wrote:
>> Dale wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have a Canon PowerShot A95 camera that until today worked fine.  Gtkam
>>> could see it and download my pictures.  I'm on the same old kernel but
>>> did upgrade some stuff recently.
>>>
>>
>> UDEV?
>>
>> Also, there might be other stuff that messes with the udev rules
>> (libgphoto2, which is the backend of gtkam, has its own udev rules).
>> Check your /etc/udev/rules.d/ to see if there are any changes...
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Peter K
>>
>>
>>
>
> I ran udevadm monitor and then turned on the camera.  It didn't see
> anything either.  It acts like it is not plugged in.
>
> I also tried to run gtkam as root and it saw nothing either.  I don't
> think it is a permissions issue, which I have had a long time ago.
>
> I did check for the udev rules and it was updated a couple weeks ago.
> I'll reemerge libgphoto and friends.  Maybe it will help.
>
> Open to other ideas tho.

I have a Canon PowerShot SD550 camera at home. I haven't tried hooking
it up with the USB interface in a looooooong time, so if your problem
was caused by an update of some sort it may have happened to me, too.
I'll give it a go tonight when I get home and let you know how it
turns out. (It uses the ptp2 driver, I believe)

Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Dale]

Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> pk wrote:
>>     
>>> Dale wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I have a Canon PowerShot A95 camera that until today worked fine.  Gtkam
>>>> could see it and download my pictures.  I'm on the same old kernel but
>>>> did upgrade some stuff recently.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> UDEV?
>>>
>>> Also, there might be other stuff that messes with the udev rules
>>> (libgphoto2, which is the backend of gtkam, has its own udev rules).
>>> Check your /etc/udev/rules.d/ to see if there are any changes...
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Peter K
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> I ran udevadm monitor and then turned on the camera.  It didn't see
>> anything either.  It acts like it is not plugged in.
>>
>> I also tried to run gtkam as root and it saw nothing either.  I don't
>> think it is a permissions issue, which I have had a long time ago.
>>
>> I did check for the udev rules and it was updated a couple weeks ago.
>> I'll reemerge libgphoto and friends.  Maybe it will help.
>>
>> Open to other ideas tho.
>>     
>
> I have a Canon PowerShot SD550 camera at home. I haven't tried hooking
> it up with the USB interface in a looooooong time, so if your problem
> was caused by an update of some sort it may have happened to me, too.
> I'll give it a go tonight when I get home and let you know how it
> turns out. (It uses the ptp2 driver, I believe)
>
>
>   


Thanks.  I'm not sure if this is part of the xorg-server update and I
missed downgrading something or if it is something else.  I know I
downloaded pics just before all that mess happened tho.  Mine is ptp as
well.  I think most all Canons are.

Look forward to hearing whether yours works or not.  Also, my printer
don't work either.  Anything USB is dead.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Mark Knecht]

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
<SNIP>
>
>
> Thanks.  I'm not sure if this is part of the xorg-server update and I
> missed downgrading something or if it is something else.  I know I
> downloaded pics just before all that mess happened tho.  Mine is ptp as
> well.  I think most all Canons are.
>
> Look forward to hearing whether yours works or not.  Also, my printer
> don't work either.  Anything USB is dead.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)

If you downgraded the xorg-server then I'd ask if were you using hald
before the upgrade and if not did you try shutting it off?

- Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Dale]

Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> <SNIP>
>   
>> Thanks.  I'm not sure if this is part of the xorg-server update and I
>> missed downgrading something or if it is something else.  I know I
>> downloaded pics just before all that mess happened tho.  Mine is ptp as
>> well.  I think most all Canons are.
>>
>> Look forward to hearing whether yours works or not.  Also, my printer
>> don't work either.  Anything USB is dead.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)
>>     
>
> If you downgraded the xorg-server then I'd ask if were you using hald
> before the upgrade and if not did you try shutting it off?
>
> - Mark
>
>
>   

I was using hald, dbus and even ivman before the upgrade.  I have tried
reemerging xorg-server with and without hal and it makes no difference. 
I think the problem is BEFORE even hal comes into the picture.  lsusb
doesn't report anything being connected either and I think it would even
if a GUI was not running.  I don't think this is related to xorg-server
or KDE and friends.  It acts like a kernel problem but I'm booting the
same old kernel that I have had for quite a while now.  I can't upgrade
because the new kernel doesn't like my IDE chipset and gcc doesn't like
it much either.  I get compile errors that according to google are being
fixed.  Those two appear to be related.

It seems like my Linux is going belly up here lately.  First xorg, then
my camera and now my printer is dead too.  Add in that I can't upgrade
my kernel because of some other issues.  Jeez, make me think.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

P. S.  This may help.  If you need more, just let me know.   I'll
downgrade something if needed.  Heck, I'll downgrade a lot of things if
needed.  lol  I'm just not going to install windoze.  :-@

root@smoker / # emerge -vp hal dbus xorg-server libgphoto2

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] sys-apps/hal-0.5.11-r8  USE="X acpi crypt -apm -debug
-dell -disk-partition -doc -laptop (-selinux)" 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] sys-apps/dbus-1.2.3-r1  USE="X -debug -doc (-selinux)" 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6  USE="dri ipv6 nptl sdl
xorg xprint -3dfx -debug -dmx -kdrive -minimal" INPUT_DEVICES="evdev
keyboard mouse -acecad -aiptek -calcomp -citron -digitaledge -dmc
-dynapro -elo2300 -elographics -fpit -hyperpen -jamstudio -joystick
-magellan -microtouch -mutouch -palmax -penmount -spaceorb -summa
-synaptics -tek4957 -ur98 -vmmouse -void -wacom" VIDEO_CARDS="nv nvidia
-apm -ark -chips -cirrus -cyrix -dummy -epson -fbdev -fglrx -glint -i128
-i740 (-impact) -imstt -intel -mach64 -mga -neomagic (-newport) -nsc
-r128 -radeon -rendition -s3 -s3virge -savage -siliconmotion -sis
-sisusb (-sunbw2) (-suncg14) (-suncg3) (-suncg6) (-sunffb) (-sunleo)
(-suntcx) -tdfx -tga -trident -tseng -v4l -vesa -vga -via -vmware
-voodoo" 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-libs/libgphoto2-2.4.3  USE="exif hal -bonjour -doc
-nls" CAMERAS="canon ptp2 -adc65 -agfa_cl20 -aox -barbie -casio_qv
-clicksmart310 -digigr8 -digita -dimagev -dimera3500 -directory
-enigma13 -fuji -gsmart300 -hp215 -iclick -jamcam -jd11 -jl2005a
-kodak_dc120 -kodak_dc210 -kodak_dc240 -kodak_dc3200 -kodak_ez200
-konica -konica_qm150 -largan -lg_gsm -mars -mustek -panasonic_coolshot
-panasonic_dc1000 -panasonic_dc1580 -panasonic_l859 -pccam300 -pccam600
-polaroid_pdc320 -polaroid_pdc640 -polaroid_pdc700 -ricoh -ricoh_g3
-samsung -sierra -sipix_blink -sipix_blink2 -sipix_web2 -smal -sonix
-sony_dscf1 -sony_dscf55 -soundvision -spca50x -sq905 -stv0674 -stv0680
-sx330z -template -topfield -toshiba_pdrm11" 0 kB

Total: 4 packages (4 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 0 kB
root@smoker / #   

Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Paul Hartman]

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Paul Hartman
<paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>> pk wrote:
>>> Dale wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I have a Canon PowerShot A95 camera that until today worked fine.  Gtkam
>>>> could see it and download my pictures.  I'm on the same old kernel but
>>>> did upgrade some stuff recently.
>>>>
>>>
>>> UDEV?
>>>
>>> Also, there might be other stuff that messes with the udev rules
>>> (libgphoto2, which is the backend of gtkam, has its own udev rules).
>>> Check your /etc/udev/rules.d/ to see if there are any changes...
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Peter K
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I ran udevadm monitor and then turned on the camera.  It didn't see
>> anything either.  It acts like it is not plugged in.
>>
>> I also tried to run gtkam as root and it saw nothing either.  I don't
>> think it is a permissions issue, which I have had a long time ago.
>>
>> I did check for the udev rules and it was updated a couple weeks ago.
>> I'll reemerge libgphoto and friends.  Maybe it will help.
>>
>> Open to other ideas tho.
>
> I have a Canon PowerShot SD550 camera at home. I haven't tried hooking
> it up with the USB interface in a looooooong time, so if your problem
> was caused by an update of some sort it may have happened to me, too.
> I'll give it a go tonight when I get home and let you know how it
> turns out. (It uses the ptp2 driver, I believe)

I just tried it, works fine. I plugged it in and KDE4 popped up a "new
device plugged in" box showing USB Imaging Interface. I clicked it and
Digikam popped up and showed me the pictures on the camera, and I was
able to copy them to my PC. I'm using all the newest ~amd64 version of
everything... so while that doesn't necessarily rule our your xorg
woes, at least I know that the /new/ version of everything doesn't
break it.

I have /etc/udev/rules.d/70-libgphoto2.rules which was generated by
gphoto2. My user is in the plugdev group and has access to the device
node for the camera.

$ gphoto2 --auto-detect
Model                          Port
----------------------------------------------------------
Canon Digital IXUS 750 (PTP mode) usb:
Canon Digital IXUS 750 (PTP mode) usb:001,036

(IXUS 750 is known as SD550 in the United States)

dmesg showed this when I plugged it in:

usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 36
usb 1-4: New USB device found, idVendor=04a9, idProduct=3116
usb 1-4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
usb 1-4: Product: Canon Digital Camera
usb 1-4: Manufacturer: Canon Inc.
usb 1-4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice


When plugging it in, udev shows this:

# udevadm monitor
monitor will print the received events for:
UDEV - the event which udev sends out after rule processing
KERNEL - the kernel uevent

KERNEL[1239840372.308016] add
/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0b.1/usb1/1-4 (usb)
KERNEL[1239840372.310580] add
/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0b.1/usb1/1-4/1-4:1.0 (usb)
UDEV  [1239840372.310666] add
/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0b.1/usb1/1-4 (usb)
KERNEL[1239840372.311815] add
/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0b.1/usb1/1-4/1-4:1.0/usb_endpoint/usbdev1.37_ep81
(usb_endpoint)
KERNEL[1239840372.313347] add
/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0b.1/usb1/1-4/1-4:1.0/usb_endpoint/usbdev1.37_ep02
(usb_endpoint)
KERNEL[1239840372.313442] add
/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0b.1/usb1/1-4/1-4:1.0/usb_endpoint/usbdev1.37_ep83
(usb_endpoint)
KERNEL[1239840372.313517] add
/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0b.1/usb1/1-4/usb_endpoint/usbdev1.37_ep00
(usb_endpoint)
UDEV  [1239840372.313623] add
/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0b.1/usb1/1-4/1-4:1.0 (usb)
UDEV  [1239840372.314474] add
/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0b.1/usb1/1-4/1-4:1.0/usb_endpoint/usbdev1.37_ep81
(usb_endpoint)
UDEV  [1239840372.315209] add
/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0b.1/usb1/1-4/1-4:1.0/usb_endpoint/usbdev1.37_ep02
(usb_endpoint)
UDEV  [1239840372.315982] add
/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0b.1/usb1/1-4/usb_endpoint/usbdev1.37_ep00
(usb_endpoint)
UDEV  [1239840372.335215] add
/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0b.1/usb1/1-4/1-4:1.0/usb_endpoint/usbdev1.37_ep83
(usb_endpoint)

Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Paul Hartman]

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mark Knecht wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>> <SNIP>
>>
>>> Thanks.  I'm not sure if this is part of the xorg-server update and I
>>> missed downgrading something or if it is something else.  I know I
>>> downloaded pics just before all that mess happened tho.  Mine is ptp as
>>> well.  I think most all Canons are.
>>>
>>> Look forward to hearing whether yours works or not.  Also, my printer
>>> don't work either.  Anything USB is dead.
>>>
>>> Dale
>>>
>>> :-)  :-)
>>>
>>
>> If you downgraded the xorg-server then I'd ask if were you using hald
>> before the upgrade and if not did you try shutting it off?
>>
>> - Mark
>>
>>
>>
>
> I was using hald, dbus and even ivman before the upgrade.  I have tried
> reemerging xorg-server with and without hal and it makes no difference.
> I think the problem is BEFORE even hal comes into the picture.  lsusb
> doesn't report anything being connected either and I think it would even
> if a GUI was not running.  I don't think this is related to xorg-server
> or KDE and friends.  It acts like a kernel problem but I'm booting the
> same old kernel that I have had for quite a while now.  I can't upgrade
> because the new kernel doesn't like my IDE chipset and gcc doesn't like
> it much either.  I get compile errors that according to google are being
> fixed.  Those two appear to be related.

I don't know about the printer... but if you re-emerge libgphoto2 it
will (or will tell you how to) generate the udev rules and HAL fdi
file for camera support, just in case one or the other of those got
hosed in your upgrade/downgrade nightmare.

Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Dale]

Paul Hartman wrote:
>
> I just tried it, works fine. I plugged it in and KDE4 popped up a "new
> device plugged in" box showing USB Imaging Interface. I clicked it and
> Digikam popped up and showed me the pictures on the camera, and I was
> able to copy them to my PC. I'm using all the newest ~amd64 version of
> everything... so while that doesn't necessarily rule our your xorg
> woes, at least I know that the /new/ version of everything doesn't
> break it.
>
> I have /etc/udev/rules.d/70-libgphoto2.rules which was generated by
> gphoto2. My user is in the plugdev group and has access to the device
> node for the camera.
>
> $ gphoto2 --auto-detect
> Model                          Port
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Canon Digital IXUS 750 (PTP mode) usb:
> Canon Digital IXUS 750 (PTP mode) usb:001,036
>
> (IXUS 750 is known as SD550 in the United States)
>
> dmesg showed this when I plugged it in:
>
> usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 36
> usb 1-4: New USB device found, idVendor=04a9, idProduct=3116
> usb 1-4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
> usb 1-4: Product: Canon Digital Camera
> usb 1-4: Manufacturer: Canon Inc.
> usb 1-4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
>
>
> When plugging it in, udev shows this:
>
> # udevadm monitor
> monitor will print the received events for:
> UDEV - the event which udev sends out after rule processing
> KERNEL - the kernel uevent
>
>   

I'm still using KDE 3.5.10 at the moment.  I'm in the process of
downloading KDE 4 now.  Dial-up takes a while.  Anyway, I want to get
this camera and printer thing fixed before I upgrade anything else. 
When I run udevadm monitor, I get nothing at all.  I cut my puter off
when I went to town but when I booted back up, it still does nothing at
all.  Nothing USB works.

I'm in the process of a emerge -ev @system right now.  I hope maybe
something just needs to be recompiled against something else and will
then work.

Still open to ideas tho.  It looks and smells like a kernel issue and I
can't seem to get a working kernel right now, gcc problem.

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Dale]

Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> Mark Knecht wrote:
>>     
>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> <SNIP>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Thanks.  I'm not sure if this is part of the xorg-server update and I
>>>> missed downgrading something or if it is something else.  I know I
>>>> downloaded pics just before all that mess happened tho.  Mine is ptp as
>>>> well.  I think most all Canons are.
>>>>
>>>> Look forward to hearing whether yours works or not.  Also, my printer
>>>> don't work either.  Anything USB is dead.
>>>>
>>>> Dale
>>>>
>>>> :-)  :-)
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> If you downgraded the xorg-server then I'd ask if were you using hald
>>> before the upgrade and if not did you try shutting it off?
>>>
>>> - Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> I was using hald, dbus and even ivman before the upgrade.  I have tried
>> reemerging xorg-server with and without hal and it makes no difference.
>> I think the problem is BEFORE even hal comes into the picture.  lsusb
>> doesn't report anything being connected either and I think it would even
>> if a GUI was not running.  I don't think this is related to xorg-server
>> or KDE and friends.  It acts like a kernel problem but I'm booting the
>> same old kernel that I have had for quite a while now.  I can't upgrade
>> because the new kernel doesn't like my IDE chipset and gcc doesn't like
>> it much either.  I get compile errors that according to google are being
>> fixed.  Those two appear to be related.
>>     
>
> I don't know about the printer... but if you re-emerge libgphoto2 it
> will (or will tell you how to) generate the udev rules and HAL fdi
> file for camera support, just in case one or the other of those got
> hosed in your upgrade/downgrade nightmare.
>
>
>   

I think these two are related.  It appears that something has changed
USB on the kernel level.  I don't think udev sees it and from my
understanding udev would be the first one to see it get connected.  So
if udev is not seeing it, then neither can hal or his friends. 
Something somewhere has wrecked my USB.  If I am wrong about the order
things get recognized, please correct me.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Paul Hartman]

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> Paul Hartman wrote:
>>
>> I just tried it, works fine. I plugged it in and KDE4 popped up a "new
>> device plugged in" box showing USB Imaging Interface. I clicked it and
>> Digikam popped up and showed me the pictures on the camera, and I was
>> able to copy them to my PC. I'm using all the newest ~amd64 version of
>> everything... so while that doesn't necessarily rule our your xorg
>> woes, at least I know that the /new/ version of everything doesn't
>> break it.
>>
>> I have /etc/udev/rules.d/70-libgphoto2.rules which was generated by
>> gphoto2. My user is in the plugdev group and has access to the device
>> node for the camera.
>>
>> $ gphoto2 --auto-detect
>> Model                          Port
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> Canon Digital IXUS 750 (PTP mode) usb:
>> Canon Digital IXUS 750 (PTP mode) usb:001,036
>>
>> (IXUS 750 is known as SD550 in the United States)
>>
>> dmesg showed this when I plugged it in:
>>
>> usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 36
>> usb 1-4: New USB device found, idVendor=04a9, idProduct=3116
>> usb 1-4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
>> usb 1-4: Product: Canon Digital Camera
>> usb 1-4: Manufacturer: Canon Inc.
>> usb 1-4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
>>
>>
>> When plugging it in, udev shows this:
>>
>> # udevadm monitor
>> monitor will print the received events for:
>> UDEV - the event which udev sends out after rule processing
>> KERNEL - the kernel uevent
>>
>>
>
> I'm still using KDE 3.5.10 at the moment.  I'm in the process of
> downloading KDE 4 now.  Dial-up takes a while.  Anyway, I want to get
> this camera and printer thing fixed before I upgrade anything else.
> When I run udevadm monitor, I get nothing at all.  I cut my puter off
> when I went to town but when I booted back up, it still does nothing at
> all.  Nothing USB works.
>
> I'm in the process of a emerge -ev @system right now.  I hope maybe
> something just needs to be recompiled against something else and will
> then work.
>
> Still open to ideas tho.  It looks and smells like a kernel issue and I
> can't seem to get a working kernel right now, gcc problem.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dale

Since nothing USB is working (do you use a USB keyboard or mouse, by
the way?) I would think it's either a kernel setting problem or an
unfortunate hardware failure of your USB hub or controller... though
the latter seems highly unlikely.

app-admin/usbview is a little app that shows all of your USB hardware;
basically a GUI for lsusb that makes it a little easier to visualize
the hierarchy of devices and controllers. It may be useful for
troubleshooting these USB issues. (you may need to run it as root)

For example in usbview it makes it very easy for me to see that my
keyboard and two mice and running on the OHCI host controller, and my
monitor's built-in USB hub and my external hard drive are attached to
the EHCI host controller.

Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Dale]

Paul Hartman wrote:
>
> Since nothing USB is working (do you use a USB keyboard or mouse, by
> the way?) I would think it's either a kernel setting problem or an
> unfortunate hardware failure of your USB hub or controller... though
> the latter seems highly unlikely.
>
> app-admin/usbview is a little app that shows all of your USB hardware;
> basically a GUI for lsusb that makes it a little easier to visualize
> the hierarchy of devices and controllers. It may be useful for
> troubleshooting these USB issues. (you may need to run it as root)
>
> For example in usbview it makes it very easy for me to see that my
> keyboard and two mice and running on the OHCI host controller, and my
> monitor's built-in USB hub and my external hard drive are attached to
> the EHCI host controller.
>
>
>   

My keyboard and mouse are PS/2 connected.  Thank goodness for that.  I
have been using lsusb and udev monitor to check for what the kernel
sees.  So far, it has seen nothing at all.  I may not completely
understand the output but having no output says a lot too.

I'm part way through the emerge -e @system and I hope that will help.

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:56:03 -0500, Dale wrote:

> have been using lsusb and udev monitor to check for what the kernel
> sees.  So far, it has seen nothing at all.

They only show you what udev sees, do any of your USB devices show up in
dmesg? If not, either your kernel or your hardware is broken, and
kernels don't often break without recompilation.

If dmesg shows it, you have a software problem, but it can't be anything
to do with X or your USB ports would work if you booted in text mode.
Use genlop with the --date argument to see what you emerged since your
USB last worked, then start with the obvious suspects.
  

-- 
Neil Bothwick

Resistance is futile, Persistance is MSDOS

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Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Dale]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:56:03 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>   
>> have been using lsusb and udev monitor to check for what the kernel
>> sees.  So far, it has seen nothing at all.
>>     
>
> They only show you what udev sees, do any of your USB devices show up in
> dmesg? If not, either your kernel or your hardware is broken, and
> kernels don't often break without recompilation.
>
> If dmesg shows it, you have a software problem, but it can't be anything
> to do with X or your USB ports would work if you booted in text mode.
> Use genlop with the --date argument to see what you emerged since your
> USB last worked, then start with the obvious suspects.
>   
>
>   

dmesg shows nothing and there is nothing in messages either.  Usually
mine shows up in messages and dmesg is always the same.  I'm not sure
why that is tho.

I'm using the same kernel because I can't compile a new one.  Gcc-4.3
doesn't like a 2.6.23 kernel and after it compiles a little while, it
fails with a error.  I googled it and they know it but the fix hasn't
made it to Gentoo yet I guess, at least not in stable anyway.  So, given
that, I know I haven't recompiled a new kernel since I can't.

I do know that I went through the xorg-server upgrade and that I
upgraded gcc.  I suspect that something related to the xorg-server
upgrade got recompiled and either doesn't like my kernel or that maybe
gcc has more troubles than was thought.  I switched back to my old gcc
and am doing a emerge -ev ivman which would include hal, dbus, udev and
all their little friends.  If after this it works, this could very well
be a gcc problem.

I also agree that it could be a hardware failure but not real likely.  I
got plenty of cooling here and I'm plugged into a surge protector and a
UPS as well.  While it is still possible, it is unlikely.  It is funny
that my printer is also dead in the water.  It's not a device problem,
broke camera or something, since they both stopped working at the same time.

Will report back later when my recompile finishes.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 13:03:28 -0500, Dale wrote:

> I also agree that it could be a hardware failure but not real likely.  I
> got plenty of cooling here and I'm plugged into a surge protector and a
> UPS as well.  While it is still possible, it is unlikely.  It is funny
> that my printer is also dead in the water.

Isn't the printer US too? It sounds like a dead USB controller. Try
booting from a live CD and seeing if USB works.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

What is the difference between Mechanical Engineers and Civil Engineers?
Mechanical Engineers build weapons, Civil Engineers build targets.

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Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Dale]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 13:03:28 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>   
>> I also agree that it could be a hardware failure but not real likely.  I
>> got plenty of cooling here and I'm plugged into a surge protector and a
>> UPS as well.  While it is still possible, it is unlikely.  It is funny
>> that my printer is also dead in the water.
>>     
>
> Isn't the printer US too? It sounds like a dead USB controller. Try
> booting from a live CD and seeing if USB works.
>
>
>   

I'll have to check and see what bootable CDs I have around here.  Some
are pretty old and I have never tried to use USB on them before.  I do
see a 2006 Gentoo CD.  Would that have USB drivers on it?

Based on other issues I have ran into here, things not compiling and
errors during compiling, I'm really wondering about gcc.  Gcc 4.3 will
not compile a working kernel at all.  The first compiled fine but
wouldn't boot.  The next booted but things wouldn't work that I know has
the right drivers installed.  Now, I can't even get a kernel to
compile.  I been trying to upgrade to 2.6.29 but always have to go back
to my trusty old 2.6.23.  I have switched back to gcc 4.2 and am
recompiling packages with it, up to ivman anyway.

This is getting weird.  My emerge -ev ivman is about through so I will
reboot and try that then a CD boot.

Also, how does one "restart" udev?  Does going to "rc single" then back
to "rc default" restart udev?  Surely a person doesn't have to reboot to
do this.  This is Linux.  ;-)

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Paul Hartman]

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> Also, how does one "restart" udev?  Does going to "rc single" then back
> to "rc default" restart udev?  Surely a person doesn't have to reboot to
> do this.

/etc/init.d/udev restart

is what i would try :)

Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Dale]

Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> Also, how does one "restart" udev?  Does going to "rc single" then back
>> to "rc default" restart udev?  Surely a person doesn't have to reboot to
>> do this.
>>     
>
> /etc/init.d/udev restart
>
> is what i would try :)
>
>
>   

If I had one, I would too.  lol

root@smoker / # ls -al /etc/init.d/ud*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 508 Apr 16 12:27 /etc/init.d/udev-postmount
root@smoker / #

What is udev-postmount anyway?  Why do I not have something that it
appears you have?

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Mark Knecht]

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> Paul Hartman wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Also, how does one "restart" udev?  Does going to "rc single" then back
>>> to "rc default" restart udev?  Surely a person doesn't have to reboot to
>>> do this.
>>>
>>
>> /etc/init.d/udev restart
>>
>> is what i would try :)
>>
>>
>>
>
> If I had one, I would too.  lol
>
> root@smoker / # ls -al /etc/init.d/ud*
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 508 Apr 16 12:27 /etc/init.d/udev-postmount
> root@smoker / #
>
> What is udev-postmount anyway?  Why do I not have something that it
> appears you have?
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)
>
>

rc-update show --verbose

What does it show? Post your results back. I'm interested.

- Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Dale]

Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> Also, how does one "restart" udev?  Does going to "rc single" then back
>> to "rc default" restart udev?  Surely a person doesn't have to reboot to
>> do this.
>>     
>
> /etc/init.d/udev restart
>
> is what i would try :)
>
>
>   

Here is the results.  I went back to my old gcc and did a "emerge -ev
ivman".  I ran "revdep-rebuild -i" afterwards to make sure everything
was good there.  All was well with the links and such.  I then rebooted
and booted a CD.  I made sure my printer was on and hooked up my camera
as well.  Both devices showed up in the list on "lsusb".  That cleared
my hardware.  Hardware is good.  Whew!!

I then booted back from the hard drive to my old kernel, 2.6.23.  I
logged into KDE and after the desktop came up and all my usual windows
opened from my saved session, I turned my camera back on.  I then went
to run lsusb but before I could do that, the icon was on my desktop and
shortly after that the pop up window came up.  KDE sees my camera and
lsusb shows both products.

Given the fact that all I did was recompile with the older gcc, I
suspect there is something wrong with what the newer gcc was compiling. 
Here is gcc-config:

root@smoker / # gcc-config -l
 [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2 *
 [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.2
root@smoker / #

I was using gcc 4.3 but switched back to gcc 4.1.  I'm not a developer
and I don't feel right about filing a bug since I can't really tell them
what is broke but something is wrong somewhere.  I have not syncd my
tree and it was a reinstall of the same version of packages.  No config
files were updated or listed that needs to be updated either. 
Basically, the only difference is the compiler.

Ideas?  Thoughts? 

Thanks much for the help too.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Dale]

Mark Knecht wrote:
>
> rc-update show --verbose
>
> What does it show? Post your results back. I'm interested.
>
> - Mark
>
>
>   

This is it:

root@smoker / # rc-update show --verbose
               acpid |
           alsasound |
            bootmisc | boot
             checkfs | boot
           checkroot | boot
               clock | boot
         consolefont | boot
          consolekit |
         crypto-loop |
               cupsd |      default
                dbus |
       device-mapper |
             dmcrypt |
            dmeventd |
             dnsextd |
              esound |
             folding |
            gkrellmd |
                 gpm |
                hald |      default
             hddtemp |
              hdparm |
            hostname | boot
              hsqldb |
     http-replicator |
           ip6tables |
            iptables |
               ivman |      default
             keymaps | boot
                lisa |
               local |      default nonetwork
          localmount | boot
  mDNSResponderPosix |
               mdnsd |
             modules | boot
            net.eth0 |
              net.lo | boot
            netmount |      default
                nscd |
          ntp-client |
                ntpd |      default
             numlock |      default
             nvclock |
             pciparm |
          portagexsd |
             pwcheck |
           pydoc-2.5 |
             reslisa |
           rmnologin | boot
              rsyncd |
           saslauthd |
              smartd |      default
                sshd |
           syslog-ng |      default
      udev-postmount |
                upsd |      default
              upsdrv |      default
              upsmon |      default
             urandom | boot
          vixie-cron |      default
                 xdm |      default
              xinetd |
              xprint |
root@smoker / #                                

There is nothing but udev-postmount in init.d at all.  Since you like a
rather lengthy list, here is another one:

root@smoker / # ls /etc/init.d/
total 354
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  1896 Apr 16 15:21 .
drwxr-xr-x 75 root root  4680 Apr 16 15:57 ..
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   818 Apr  6 07:57 acpid
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  6557 Apr  6 13:58 alsasound
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  3661 Apr 16 12:28 bootmisc
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  1188 Apr 16 12:28 checkfs
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  3226 Apr 16 12:28 checkroot
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  3054 Apr 16 12:28 clock
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  1429 Apr 16 12:28 consolefont
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   540 Apr  6 18:24 consolekit
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  1729 Apr 16 13:20 crypto-loop
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   305 Apr  6 22:49 cupsd
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  1152 Apr 16 13:26 dbus
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    21 Apr 16 12:28 depscan.sh ->
../../sbin/depscan.sh
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   628 Apr 16 12:11 device-mapper
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   660 Apr 16 12:36 dmcrypt
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   547 Apr 16 12:11 dmeventd
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   998 Apr  6 12:48 dnsextd
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   993 Apr  6 11:44 esound
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 51410 Dec 13 02:37 folding
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    23 Apr 16 12:28 functions.sh ->
../../sbin/functions.sh
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   637 Apr  7 01:18 gkrellmd
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   951 Apr 16 13:16 gpm
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  1111 Apr 16 15:19 hald
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  5606 Apr 16 12:28 halt.sh
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   547 Apr  6 09:52 hddtemp
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  3407 Apr  6 07:20 hdparm
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   433 Apr 16 12:28 hostname
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   464 Apr  6 13:03 hsqldb
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   762 Apr  6 11:40 http-replicator
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  2570 Apr  6 08:17 ip6tables
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  2570 Apr  6 08:17 iptables
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   524 Apr 16 15:20 ivman
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  1874 Apr 16 12:28 keymaps
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   546 Apr  7 13:04 lisa
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   620 Apr 16 12:28 local
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  2088 Apr 16 12:28 localmount
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  1247 Apr  6 12:48 mDNSResponderPosix
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   845 Apr  6 12:48 mdnsd
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  2947 Apr 16 12:28 modules
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root     6 Apr 16 12:28 net.eth0 -> net.lo
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 30696 Apr 16 12:28 net.lo
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  3311 Apr 16 12:28 netmount
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  1566 Apr 16 14:06 nscd
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   833 Apr  6 14:09 ntp-client
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   827 Apr  6 14:09 ntpd
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   670 Apr 16 12:28 numlock
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   146 Apr  7 02:56 nvclock
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  1871 Apr 16 12:17 pciparm
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   390 Apr  6 09:02 portagexsd
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   538 Apr  6 13:50 pwcheck
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   666 Apr 16 14:38 pydoc-2.5
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   304 Apr 16 12:25 reboot.sh
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   557 Apr  7 13:04 reslisa
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   276 Apr 16 12:28 rmnologin
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   558 Apr 16 12:51 rsyncd
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    23 Apr 16 12:28 runscript.sh ->
../../sbin/runscript.sh
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   525 Apr  6 13:50 saslauthd
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   385 Apr 16 12:25 shutdown.sh
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   965 Apr  6 07:21 smartd
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  2123 Apr 16 01:25 sshd
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  1894 Apr  6 18:15 syslog-ng
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   508 Apr 16 12:27 udev-postmount
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   733 Apr  6 10:09 upsd
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   490 Apr  6 10:09 upsdrv
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   473 Apr  6 10:09 upsmon
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   942 Apr 16 12:28 urandom
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   530 Apr  6 12:37 vixie-cron
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  5210 Apr  9 15:48 xdm
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   814 Apr  6 08:26 xinetd
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   598 Apr 15 15:12 xprint
root@smoker / #

Could you tell me what package installed that on yours?  Equery belongs
/etc/init.d/udev should say something I guess.

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Paul Hartman]

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> Paul Hartman wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Also, how does one "restart" udev?  Does going to "rc single" then back
>>> to "rc default" restart udev?  Surely a person doesn't have to reboot to
>>> do this.
>>>
>>
>> /etc/init.d/udev restart
>>
>> is what i would try :)
>>
>>
>>
>
> If I had one, I would too.  lol
>
> root@smoker / # ls -al /etc/init.d/ud*
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 508 Apr 16 12:27 /etc/init.d/udev-postmount
> root@smoker / #
>
> What is udev-postmount anyway?  Why do I not have something that it
> appears you have?
>
> Dale

Maybe I'm using a different udev?

[ Searching for file(s) /etc/init.d/udev in *... ]
sys-fs/udev-141 (/etc/init.d/udev)

Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Paul Hartman]

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Paul Hartman
<paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Paul Hartman wrote:
>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Also, how does one "restart" udev?  Does going to "rc single" then back
>>>> to "rc default" restart udev?  Surely a person doesn't have to reboot to
>>>> do this.
>>>>
>>>
>>> /etc/init.d/udev restart
>>>
>>> is what i would try :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> If I had one, I would too.  lol
>>
>> root@smoker / # ls -al /etc/init.d/ud*
>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 508 Apr 16 12:27 /etc/init.d/udev-postmount
>> root@smoker / #
>>
>> What is udev-postmount anyway?  Why do I not have something that it
>> appears you have?
>>
>> Dale
>
> Maybe I'm using a different udev?
>
> [ Searching for file(s) /etc/init.d/udev in *... ]
> sys-fs/udev-141 (/etc/init.d/udev)
>

(which, by the way, also owns the udev-postmount script)

Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Dale]

Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Paul Hartman
> <paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> Paul Hartman wrote:
>>>       
>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Also, how does one "restart" udev?  Does going to "rc single" then back
>>>>> to "rc default" restart udev?  Surely a person doesn't have to reboot to
>>>>> do this.
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> /etc/init.d/udev restart
>>>>
>>>> is what i would try :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> If I had one, I would too.  lol
>>>
>>> root@smoker / # ls -al /etc/init.d/ud*
>>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 508 Apr 16 12:27 /etc/init.d/udev-postmount
>>> root@smoker / #
>>>
>>> What is udev-postmount anyway?  Why do I not have something that it
>>> appears you have?
>>>
>>> Dale
>>>       
>> Maybe I'm using a different udev?
>>
>> [ Searching for file(s) /etc/init.d/udev in *... ]
>> sys-fs/udev-141 (/etc/init.d/udev)
>>
>>     
>
> (which, by the way, also owns the udev-postmount script)
>
>
>   

Well here is something funny, no sound now.  Working on it.  lspci -v
shows the driver is not loaded for some reason.  It is built into the
kernel so not sure why that is.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Paul Hartman]

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> Paul Hartman wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Paul Hartman
>> <paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Paul Hartman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, how does one "restart" udev?  Does going to "rc single" then back
>>>>>> to "rc default" restart udev?  Surely a person doesn't have to reboot to
>>>>>> do this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> /etc/init.d/udev restart
>>>>>
>>>>> is what i would try :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> If I had one, I would too.  lol
>>>>
>>>> root@smoker / # ls -al /etc/init.d/ud*
>>>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 508 Apr 16 12:27 /etc/init.d/udev-postmount
>>>> root@smoker / #
>>>>
>>>> What is udev-postmount anyway?  Why do I not have something that it
>>>> appears you have?
>>>>
>>>> Dale
>>>>
>>> Maybe I'm using a different udev?
>>>
>>> [ Searching for file(s) /etc/init.d/udev in *... ]
>>> sys-fs/udev-141 (/etc/init.d/udev)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> (which, by the way, also owns the udev-postmount script)
>>
>>
>>
>
> Well here is something funny, no sound now.  Working on it.  lspci -v
> shows the driver is not loaded for some reason.  It is built into the
> kernel so not sure why that is.
>
> Dale

When my sound goes belly up I just run alsaconf and it magically fixes
it (though I use modules)

Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Dale]

Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>>     
>> Well here is something funny, no sound now.  Working on it.  lspci -v
>> shows the driver is not loaded for some reason.  It is built into the
>> kernel so not sure why that is.
>>
>> Dale
>>     
>
> When my sound goes belly up I just run alsaconf and it magically fixes
> it (though I use modules)
>
>
>   

Well, it turns out that those won't run here.  I'm about to run emerge
-ev world and let it recompile everything here.  I think this gcc thing
is going deeper than I thought.  If things work after this emerge, I'm
going to know that on my system, gcc 4.3 is not a good upgrade. 

I checked again and I was looking at the joystick part of the card which
is not installed.  It is loading the sound driver so it is something
else keeping it from working.

Oh, it will take a day or so to do this emerge.  It's big for sure.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:12:16 -0500, Dale wrote:

> I was using gcc 4.3 but switched back to gcc 4.1.  I'm not a developer
> and I don't feel right about filing a bug since I can't really tell them
> what is broke but something is wrong somewhere.  I have not syncd my
> tree and it was a reinstall of the same version of packages.  No config
> files were updated or listed that needs to be updated either. 
> Basically, the only difference is the compiler.

File a bug. It's like going to the doctor, you don't have to know what's
wrong, just be able to describe the symptoms.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

I don't eat snails. I prefer fast food.

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Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Dale]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:12:16 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>   
>> I was using gcc 4.3 but switched back to gcc 4.1.  I'm not a developer
>> and I don't feel right about filing a bug since I can't really tell them
>> what is broke but something is wrong somewhere.  I have not syncd my
>> tree and it was a reinstall of the same version of packages.  No config
>> files were updated or listed that needs to be updated either. 
>> Basically, the only difference is the compiler.
>>     
>
> File a bug. It's like going to the doctor, you don't have to know what's
> wrong, just be able to describe the symptoms.
>
>
>   

I'm not sure what to even put.  I do believe that gcc is causing
problems as far as the code it produces but I have no idea what could
cause it. 

I also have not changed my make.conf file.  I only change it when they
add some new device or something like that.  I think the last change I
made was to add kdeprefix.  I can't see how it could be anything but gcc
but have no clue how it could be either.  Looks like I wouldn't be the
only person to have this issue.

I did notice that I can now compile a kernel.  I have not had any errors
doing that with the old gcc.  Maybe, just maybe I can upgrade to 2.6.29 now.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Dale]

Dale wrote:
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
>   
>> On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:12:16 -0500, Dale wrote:
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> I was using gcc 4.3 but switched back to gcc 4.1.  I'm not a developer
>>> and I don't feel right about filing a bug since I can't really tell them
>>> what is broke but something is wrong somewhere.  I have not syncd my
>>> tree and it was a reinstall of the same version of packages.  No config
>>> files were updated or listed that needs to be updated either. 
>>> Basically, the only difference is the compiler.
>>>     
>>>       
>> File a bug. It's like going to the doctor, you don't have to know what's
>> wrong, just be able to describe the symptoms.
>>
>>
>>   
>>     
>
> I'm not sure what to even put.  I do believe that gcc is causing
> problems as far as the code it produces but I have no idea what could
> cause it. 
>
> I also have not changed my make.conf file.  I only change it when they
> add some new device or something like that.  I think the last change I
> made was to add kdeprefix.  I can't see how it could be anything but gcc
> but have no clue how it could be either.  Looks like I wouldn't be the
> only person to have this issue.
>
> I did notice that I can now compile a kernel.  I have not had any errors
> doing that with the old gcc.  Maybe, just maybe I can upgrade to 2.6.29 now.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-) 
>
>   

I am now pretty sure this is a gcc issue.  My emerge -ev world is almost
done and while I slept my sound started working again.  As far as I can
tell, everything is working again.  I think I'm going to wait a while
before trying to upgrade gcc again.  I still can't really say why gcc is
messing up but on this system, it is.

By the way, Seamonkey doesn't crash on websites or when I open emails
anymore.  Back to full time surfing.

Thanks much.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Mark Knecht]

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dale wrote:
>> Neil Bothwick wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:12:16 -0500, Dale wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I was using gcc 4.3 but switched back to gcc 4.1.  I'm not a developer
>>>> and I don't feel right about filing a bug since I can't really tell them
>>>> what is broke but something is wrong somewhere.  I have not syncd my
>>>> tree and it was a reinstall of the same version of packages.  No config
>>>> files were updated or listed that needs to be updated either.
>>>> Basically, the only difference is the compiler.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> File a bug. It's like going to the doctor, you don't have to know what's
>>> wrong, just be able to describe the symptoms.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I'm not sure what to even put.  I do believe that gcc is causing
>> problems as far as the code it produces but I have no idea what could
>> cause it.
>>
>> I also have not changed my make.conf file.  I only change it when they
>> add some new device or something like that.  I think the last change I
>> made was to add kdeprefix.  I can't see how it could be anything but gcc
>> but have no clue how it could be either.  Looks like I wouldn't be the
>> only person to have this issue.
>>
>> I did notice that I can now compile a kernel.  I have not had any errors
>> doing that with the old gcc.  Maybe, just maybe I can upgrade to 2.6.29 now.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)
>>
>>
>
> I am now pretty sure this is a gcc issue.  My emerge -ev world is almost
> done and while I slept my sound started working again.  As far as I can
> tell, everything is working again.  I think I'm going to wait a while
> before trying to upgrade gcc again.  I still can't really say why gcc is
> messing up but on this system, it is.
>
> By the way, Seamonkey doesn't crash on websites or when I open emails
> anymore.  Back to full time surfing.
>
> Thanks much.
>
> Dale

Very interesting.

On my end I'm still having the mythtv xv-video crashes. I did an
emerge -e world with the new compiler - 4.3.2-r3. That finished up but
my problems didn't go away so I guess the next step is to go back
again to 4.1. Bummer. That's a lot of time wasted.

- Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Dale]

Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>>
>> I am now pretty sure this is a gcc issue.  My emerge -ev world is almost
>> done and while I slept my sound started working again.  As far as I can
>> tell, everything is working again.  I think I'm going to wait a while
>> before trying to upgrade gcc again.  I still can't really say why gcc is
>> messing up but on this system, it is.
>>
>> By the way, Seamonkey doesn't crash on websites or when I open emails
>> anymore.  Back to full time surfing.
>>
>> Thanks much.
>>
>> Dale
>>     
>
> Very interesting.
>
> On my end I'm still having the mythtv xv-video crashes. I did an
> emerge -e world with the new compiler - 4.3.2-r3. That finished up but
> my problems didn't go away so I guess the next step is to go back
> again to 4.1. Bummer. That's a lot of time wasted.
>
> - Mark
>
>
>   

The only thing that I am still having issues with is cmake.  It won't
compile for some reason.  I'm about to check into that now.

What I did at first was to emerge -e ivman.  I did that to test my
theory.  After my USB stuff started working then I was pretty sure I was
onto something so then I did emerge -ev world.

I'd still make sure I was out of other options tho.  This is rather
odd.  This is the first time I have had trouble with a stable gcc.  It's
logical since that is all I changed but it is odd that more people
aren't having this issue.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Mark Knecht]

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mark Knecht wrote:
>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I am now pretty sure this is a gcc issue.  My emerge -ev world is almost
>>> done and while I slept my sound started working again.  As far as I can
>>> tell, everything is working again.  I think I'm going to wait a while
>>> before trying to upgrade gcc again.  I still can't really say why gcc is
>>> messing up but on this system, it is.
>>>
>>> By the way, Seamonkey doesn't crash on websites or when I open emails
>>> anymore.  Back to full time surfing.
>>>
>>> Thanks much.
>>>
>>> Dale
>>>
>>
>> Very interesting.
>>
>> On my end I'm still having the mythtv xv-video crashes. I did an
>> emerge -e world with the new compiler - 4.3.2-r3. That finished up but
>> my problems didn't go away so I guess the next step is to go back
>> again to 4.1. Bummer. That's a lot of time wasted.
>>
>> - Mark
>>
>>
>>
>
> The only thing that I am still having issues with is cmake.  It won't
> compile for some reason.  I'm about to check into that now.
>
> What I did at first was to emerge -e ivman.  I did that to test my
> theory.  After my USB stuff started working then I was pretty sure I was
> onto something so then I did emerge -ev world.
>
> I'd still make sure I was out of other options tho.  This is rather
> odd.  This is the first time I have had trouble with a stable gcc.  It's
> logical since that is all I changed but it is odd that more people
> aren't having this issue.
>
> Dale

Sounds sensible. Being that my problem is X or at least the intel
drivers running in X, it's a pretty substantial problem to debug.

To change gcc versions did you leave 4.3 on the system and just choose
4.1 using gcc-config, or did you completely remove 4.3?

Thanks,
Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Dale]

Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> Mark Knecht wrote:
>>     
>>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> I am now pretty sure this is a gcc issue.  My emerge -ev world is almost
>>>> done and while I slept my sound started working again.  As far as I can
>>>> tell, everything is working again.  I think I'm going to wait a while
>>>> before trying to upgrade gcc again.  I still can't really say why gcc is
>>>> messing up but on this system, it is.
>>>>
>>>> By the way, Seamonkey doesn't crash on websites or when I open emails
>>>> anymore.  Back to full time surfing.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks much.
>>>>
>>>> Dale
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> Very interesting.
>>>
>>> On my end I'm still having the mythtv xv-video crashes. I did an
>>> emerge -e world with the new compiler - 4.3.2-r3. That finished up but
>>> my problems didn't go away so I guess the next step is to go back
>>> again to 4.1. Bummer. That's a lot of time wasted.
>>>
>>> - Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> The only thing that I am still having issues with is cmake.  It won't
>> compile for some reason.  I'm about to check into that now.
>>
>> What I did at first was to emerge -e ivman.  I did that to test my
>> theory.  After my USB stuff started working then I was pretty sure I was
>> onto something so then I did emerge -ev world.
>>
>> I'd still make sure I was out of other options tho.  This is rather
>> odd.  This is the first time I have had trouble with a stable gcc.  It's
>> logical since that is all I changed but it is odd that more people
>> aren't having this issue.
>>
>> Dale
>>     
>
> Sounds sensible. Being that my problem is X or at least the intel
> drivers running in X, it's a pretty substantial problem to debug.
>
> To change gcc versions did you leave 4.3 on the system and just choose
> 4.1 using gcc-config, or did you completely remove 4.3?
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
>
>   

Before downgrading, let me see how to fix cmake.  That way if you have
the same issue, I can tell you what I did to fix it.  I don't think
downgrading is recommended. 

I also had trouble with kernels I built using gcc 4.3 as well.  First
compile would not recognize my IDE drive controller and would not
completely boot up.  The next had other issues so I had to go back to my
old kernel.  Those seem to compile fine with gcc 4.1 tho.  I have not
tested this by booting them.  I been recompiling everything again.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Mark Knecht]

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mark Knecht wrote:
>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Mark Knecht wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I am now pretty sure this is a gcc issue.  My emerge -ev world is almost
>>>>> done and while I slept my sound started working again.  As far as I can
>>>>> tell, everything is working again.  I think I'm going to wait a while
>>>>> before trying to upgrade gcc again.  I still can't really say why gcc is
>>>>> messing up but on this system, it is.
>>>>>
>>>>> By the way, Seamonkey doesn't crash on websites or when I open emails
>>>>> anymore.  Back to full time surfing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks much.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dale
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Very interesting.
>>>>
>>>> On my end I'm still having the mythtv xv-video crashes. I did an
>>>> emerge -e world with the new compiler - 4.3.2-r3. That finished up but
>>>> my problems didn't go away so I guess the next step is to go back
>>>> again to 4.1. Bummer. That's a lot of time wasted.
>>>>
>>>> - Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> The only thing that I am still having issues with is cmake.  It won't
>>> compile for some reason.  I'm about to check into that now.
>>>
>>> What I did at first was to emerge -e ivman.  I did that to test my
>>> theory.  After my USB stuff started working then I was pretty sure I was
>>> onto something so then I did emerge -ev world.
>>>
>>> I'd still make sure I was out of other options tho.  This is rather
>>> odd.  This is the first time I have had trouble with a stable gcc.  It's
>>> logical since that is all I changed but it is odd that more people
>>> aren't having this issue.
>>>
>>> Dale
>>>
>>
>> Sounds sensible. Being that my problem is X or at least the intel
>> drivers running in X, it's a pretty substantial problem to debug.
>>
>> To change gcc versions did you leave 4.3 on the system and just choose
>> 4.1 using gcc-config, or did you completely remove 4.3?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>
> Before downgrading, let me see how to fix cmake.  That way if you have
> the same issue, I can tell you what I did to fix it.  I don't think
> downgrading is recommended.
>
> I also had trouble with kernels I built using gcc 4.3 as well.  First
> compile would not recognize my IDE drive controller and would not
> completely boot up.  The next had other issues so I had to go back to my
> old kernel.  Those seem to compile fine with gcc 4.1 tho.  I have not
> tested this by booting them.  I been recompiling everything again.
>
> Dale

I had no problems building gentoo-sources-2.6.27-r10 using 4.3.2.
Built fine and booted fine.

I suspect there may be a driver here or there with a problem building
under that compiler, but I suppose anything could happen at boot time.

Let me know about cmake and whatever other issues you run into. If
it's too big a problem I suppose I could save my world file and then
just do a clean install using 2008.0 or something. If this problem
goes on much longer then I may have to do that anyway. Gentoo has a
low WAF right now... ;-)

- Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

[Dale]

Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>>
>> Before downgrading, let me see how to fix cmake.  That way if you have
>> the same issue, I can tell you what I did to fix it.  I don't think
>> downgrading is recommended.
>>
>> I also had trouble with kernels I built using gcc 4.3 as well.  First
>> compile would not recognize my IDE drive controller and would not
>> completely boot up.  The next had other issues so I had to go back to my
>> old kernel.  Those seem to compile fine with gcc 4.1 tho.  I have not
>> tested this by booting them.  I been recompiling everything again.
>>
>> Dale
>>     
>
> I had no problems building gentoo-sources-2.6.27-r10 using 4.3.2.
> Built fine and booted fine.
>
> I suspect there may be a driver here or there with a problem building
> under that compiler, but I suppose anything could happen at boot time.
>
> Let me know about cmake and whatever other issues you run into. If
> it's too big a problem I suppose I could save my world file and then
> just do a clean install using 2008.0 or something. If this problem
> goes on much longer then I may have to do that anyway. Gentoo has a
> low WAF right now... ;-)
>
> - Mark
>
>
>   

OK.  Portage wanted to install dev-util/cmake-2.6.3-r1 and it always
borked.  I masked that version of cmake and it is compiling so far with
the old version.  So, if you have a issue with it trying to upgrade to
that version of cmake, just mask it and let it keep the old version. 
I'm not sure how that update got by me.  I was trying to keep everything
with the same version.

I can say this, I seem to be stable again.  Nothing is crashing,
programs open and run fine, USB works, kernels compile and my sound is
back again.  I could get used to this.  lol

Also, I have a script that I got off the forums ages ago.  I'm going to
run that soon.  It emerges packages one by one and started out as a
script to avoid running emerge -e system twice.  It does the emerge in a
different order to make sure everything is built in the proper order.  I
don't know if it still works or not or is even needed with the recent
changes in portage.  I did get it to generate the list of packages but I
haven't ran it as far as starting the emerge process.  Here is a link to
it:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-494331-highlight-.html

The script is there to but if it gives you issues when running, I can
mail you a copy.  It has a checksum thing or something and it is a picky
little bugger. 

I really wish we didn't have to go through all this tho.  I also wish I
could say exactly what is wrong with gcc 4.3 too.  I got a bad gut
feeling about this thing coming back to bite us.   Well, actually others
that have a problem but don't know it yet.

Dale

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