From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LsHbP-0007Ro-GN for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:21:07 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AC699E0504; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:21:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gx0-f176.google.com (mail-gx0-f176.google.com [209.85.217.176]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877A6E0504 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:21:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so2370978gxk.10 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 07:21:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DYcHNZD+y9glVzZ630VOWqHHz3tUXyxSOSWAEp2ZnxE=; b=vGHd4a8CsJ3XqgTNVbG64o2ytrKsNOCwO+JC8enewsSz/kegzcc+GAAPiEsTevLE+L o79l+ZWDxnmzUDNiIpy538vKPVB1OeOYsHCjQnVho357v368qB4Ld98oC66OgHlGj/Bk bmCL3yReqbdDtQ+SnOWJ9Xlz1MF6fusv2yqnY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CA9DN8uuENVHsjb2/BvrGalSaajJrtTCotIicogFodheo6lqxSbBEgVyGBMKOp3M+a 7gAxGzNFC6cZwM1bnr3V22/F7/r1DXwaQlZ5JZZ8M91egypks2CfHzMYiQMSVLB5p88l gXoU8Ka2gQS31f0x+yU210/qIHBmj9xRf/IPI= Received: by 10.90.117.17 with SMTP id p17mr4544020agc.63.1239373265180; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 07:21:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?64.89.164.110? (r164h110.dixie-net.com [64.89.164.110]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 18sm2034607agb.66.2009.04.10.07.21.02 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 10 Apr 2009 07:21:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49DF55CB.4070408@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:20:59 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.21) Gecko/20090407 SeaMonkey/1.1.15 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you? References: <49DF4B1B.3040101@gmail.com> <20090410144637.GA13479@cubotto.ath.cx> In-Reply-To: <20090410144637.GA13479@cubotto.ath.cx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: c0c9467c-4bd4-4b62-949e-d9b602278065 X-Archives-Hash: 2bb70bbc0a92ed455e8ced144dd5d2f9 Momesso Andrea wrote: > On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 08:35:23AM -0500, Dale wrote: > >> Wyatt Epp wrote: >> >>> Greets, >>> >>> So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things >>> that I had come to accept as normal that I feel should not be so. >>> Things like the danger of depclean or the way portage will only show >>> one mask at a time. So I was curious...what have people that are >>> /not/ myself and my mate noticed that is mildly irritating and >>> disruptive to the Gentoo experience? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Wyatt >>> >> After the mess with my updates yesterday, I wish portage had a undo >> feature. Something like emerge --undo-updates world that puts >> everything back to the way it was before a recent upgrade. Maybe even >> make it so we can set a stable point and return to that. Crap, that >> sounds like something windoze has. o_O I still think it would be a >> cool idea. Sometimes upgrades cause all kinds of issues and need to be >> undone. Going back to a known stable point would be great. >> >> Now someone tell me this exists already. lol They have added so much >> to portage lately I haven't been able to keep up. >> >> > I don't think portage has this option, and I hope it will never. > > Suppose you have to deal with a big upgrade (that icludes glibc) and the > next day you tell portage to rollback... > > I prefer the old way, read the emerge log (or use genlop), and rollback > manually. FEATURES="buildsyspkg" can be helpful when you break mission > critical stuff. > > --- > TopperH > http://topperh.blogspot.com > In that case, portage can tell you it can't roll back. It could even tell you that before the upgrade. The thing about yesterday, I had no keyboard or mouse. If I hadn't wrote down how to add softlevel=boot on the end of the grub boot line, I have no idea what I would have done at that point. Of course, it would have also been nice if hal had just wrote to a log that it couldn't find the proper driver or whatever for the keyboard and/or mouse then defaulted to the old way. That has to be better than being forced to unplug a computer without a proper shutdown. Just tossing ideas for something more positive in the future. Dale :-) :-)