[gentoo-user] Seamonkey crashes on website.

[gentoo-user] Seamonkey crashes on website.

[Dale]

Hi,

I have ran into a problem here.  When I go to http://wireless.att.com/
Seamonkey crashes.  It does this pretty fast even tho I am on a slow
dial-up connection.  Can someone confirm that this does the same with
them.  Please, don't have anything open that hasn't been saved. 

How do I find out why this is crashing?  If it is just me, what do I
do?  If it happens to others, is it Seamonkey or AT&T?  I prefer to
blame AT&T myself.  lol  Some additional info:


root@smoker / # emerge -pv seamonkey

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] www-client/seamonkey-1.1.15  USE="crypt ipv6 java ldap
xprint -debug -gnome -mozdevelop -moznocompose -moznoirc -moznomail
-moznopango -moznoroaming -postgres -xforms -xinerama" 0 kB

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
root@smoker / #eselect java-nsplugin list
Available Java browser plugins
  [1]   sun-jdk-1.5
  [2]   sun-jdk-1.6  current
  [3]   sun-jdk-1.6-plugin2
root@smoker / # eselect java-vm list
Available Java Virtual Machines:
  [1]   sun-jdk-1.5  system-vm
  [2]   sun-jdk-1.6
root@smoker / #


Please note this is reproducible 100% of the time.  Also, this worked a
few days ago when I paid my cell phone bill.  I'm almost done with a
emerge -ev world, long story.

Thanks

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Seamonkey crashes on website.

[KH]

Dale schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> I have ran into a problem here.  When I go to http://wireless.att.com/
> Seamonkey crashes.  It does this pretty fast even tho I am on a slow
> dial-up connection.  Can someone confirm that this does the same with
> them.  Please, don't have anything open that hasn't been saved. 
>   
Hi,

I cannot confirm this. from the shall seamonkey http://wireless.att.com/
works as well as starting seamonkey and than navigating to att.

[ebuild  N    ] www-client/seamonkey-1.1.15  USE="crypt ipv6 java ldap
xinerama xprint -debug -gnome -mozdevelop -moznocompose -moznoirc
-moznomail -moznopango -moznoroaming -postgres -xforms"

kh

Re: [gentoo-user] Seamonkey crashes on website.

[Dale]

KH wrote:
> Dale schrieb:
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have ran into a problem here.  When I go to http://wireless.att.com/
>> Seamonkey crashes.  It does this pretty fast even tho I am on a slow
>> dial-up connection.  Can someone confirm that this does the same with
>> them.  Please, don't have anything open that hasn't been saved. 
>>   
>>     
> Hi,
>
> I cannot confirm this. from the shall seamonkey http://wireless.att.com/
> works as well as starting seamonkey and than navigating to att.
>
> [ebuild  N    ] www-client/seamonkey-1.1.15  USE="crypt ipv6 java ldap
> xinerama xprint -debug -gnome -mozdevelop -moznocompose -moznoirc
> -moznomail -moznopango -moznoroaming -postgres -xforms"
>
> kh
>
>
>   

Thanks for testing the link.  That helps.  I also ran seamonkey in a
console to see what error it produces when it crashes.  This is what I got:

/usr/libexec/mozilla-launcher: line 119: 24240 Segmentation fault     
$(type -P aoss) "$mozbin" $xulparams "$@"

I did a google search and most seam to think it is a low memory issue. 
I have 2Gbs of ram here.  I am in the middle of compiling OOo but still,
this should be more than enough.  Here is the output of meminfo:

root@smoker / # cat /proc/meminfo
MemTotal:      2074820 kB
MemFree:        315472 kB
Buffers:        169952 kB
Cached:        1019360 kB
SwapCached:          0 kB
Active:         975344 kB
Inactive:       620532 kB
HighTotal:     1179584 kB
HighFree:         1648 kB
LowTotal:       895236 kB
LowFree:        313824 kB
SwapTotal:      976712 kB
SwapFree:       976708 kB
Dirty:            4528 kB
Writeback:           0 kB
AnonPages:      406580 kB
Mapped:          78900 kB
Slab:           144412 kB
SReclaimable:   125856 kB
SUnreclaim:      18556 kB
PageTables:       2612 kB
NFS_Unstable:        0 kB
Bounce:              0 kB
CommitLimit:   2014120 kB
Committed_AS:   706448 kB
VmallocTotal:   114680 kB
VmallocUsed:     28084 kB
VmallocChunk:    81908 kB
root@smoker / #       

Anybody have any clues?  Things I can test?

Dale

:-)  :-) 

[gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

[Jon Hamilton]

On Wed, April 8, 2009 07:10, Dale wrote:
> KH wrote:
>
>> Dale schrieb:
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> I have ran into a problem here.  When I go to
>>> http://wireless.att.com/
>>> Seamonkey crashes.  It does this pretty fast even tho I am on a slow

[ KH can't reproduce, using Seamonkey 1.15 ]

I can't reproduce that either; the site loads/works fine for me.  The site
does use flash; perhaps it's a problem there?  It might be worth turning
on flashblock or otherwise disabling flash.  Another suggestion would be
to try it from a shell with a different home directory, to take your
.mozilla out of the mix (you could mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.old
temporarily, or just do
HOME=/tmp seamonkey http://mobile.att.com so it won't find your .mozilla
directory and will start fresh/clean.

Based on your memory and swap usage, it doesn't look to me like that's the
issue.


-- 
Jon Hamilton
hamilton@pobox.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

[Dale]

Jon Hamilton wrote:
>
> I can't reproduce that either; the site loads/works fine for me.  The site
> does use flash; perhaps it's a problem there?  It might be worth turning
> on flashblock or otherwise disabling flash.  Another suggestion would be
> to try it from a shell with a different home directory, to take your
> .mozilla out of the mix (you could mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.old
> temporarily, or just do
> HOME=/tmp seamonkey http://mobile.att.com so it won't find your .mozilla
> directory and will start fresh/clean.
>
> Based on your memory and swap usage, it doesn't look to me like that's the
> issue.
>
>
>   

I ran, as root I'm afraid, HOME=/tmp seamonkey then just typed in the
address.  It worked fine.  It appears to be permissions or something bad
in ~/.mozilla one.  I suspect the later myself. 

Now to go delete all I can and NOT loose my emails.  I got tens of
thousands of emails stored here.  o_O  Pack rat.  Sorry.  lol 

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

[Dale]

Jon Hamilton wrote:
> On Wed, April 8, 2009 07:10, Dale wrote:
>   
>> KH wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Dale schrieb:
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have ran into a problem here.  When I go to
>>>> http://wireless.att.com/
>>>> Seamonkey crashes.  It does this pretty fast even tho I am on a slow
>>>>         
>
> [ KH can't reproduce, using Seamonkey 1.15 ]
>
> I can't reproduce that either; the site loads/works fine for me.  The site
> does use flash; perhaps it's a problem there?  It might be worth turning
> on flashblock or otherwise disabling flash.  Another suggestion would be
> to try it from a shell with a different home directory, to take your
> .mozilla out of the mix (you could mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.old
> temporarily, or just do
> HOME=/tmp seamonkey http://mobile.att.com so it won't find your .mozilla
> directory and will start fresh/clean.
>
> Based on your memory and swap usage, it doesn't look to me like that's the
> issue.
>
>
>   

Well, I lost the last message so I have to reply to this one.  I tried
to rename .mozilla to .mozilla.old, open Seamonkey so it would create a
fresh start, then copy my Mail directory over.  My emails didn't show
up.  I would like to get a fresh start but what do I need to copy in
addition to the Mail directory?  I think there may be a file or
something that I am missing.

By the way, with a fresh .mozilla, it works fine.  It's just a bad file
somewhere.  Oh, I also would like to restore my password manager file
too.  I can't remember all those passwords. 

Helpful hints would be appreciated.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

[Dale]

Jon Hamilton wrote:
> On Wed, April 8, 2009 07:10, Dale wrote:
>   
>> KH wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Dale schrieb:
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have ran into a problem here.  When I go to
>>>> http://wireless.att.com/
>>>> Seamonkey crashes.  It does this pretty fast even tho I am on a slow
>>>>         
>
> [ KH can't reproduce, using Seamonkey 1.15 ]
>
> I can't reproduce that either; the site loads/works fine for me.  The site
> does use flash; perhaps it's a problem there?  It might be worth turning
> on flashblock or otherwise disabling flash.  Another suggestion would be
> to try it from a shell with a different home directory, to take your
> .mozilla out of the mix (you could mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.old
> temporarily, or just do
> HOME=/tmp seamonkey http://mobile.att.com so it won't find your .mozilla
> directory and will start fresh/clean.
>
> Based on your memory and swap usage, it doesn't look to me like that's the
> issue.
>
>
>   

Well, I'm back again.  I did a new profile by renaming .mozilla and then
copying over my emails, passwords and bookmarks.  I didn't copy anything
else that I can recall.  I also didn't copy prefs.js.  I did edit it to
point to my old passwords file but surely not a problem.  Now, Seamonkey
crashes again.

Could this be a java problem?  Here is the list I have tried:

root@smoker / # eselect java-nsplugin list
Available Java browser plugins
  [1]   sun-jdk-1.5
  [2]   sun-jdk-1.6  current
  [3]   sun-jdk-1.6-plugin2
root@smoker / # eselect java-nsplugin set 1
root@smoker / # eselect java-nsplugin list
Available Java browser plugins
  [1]   sun-jdk-1.5  current
  [2]   sun-jdk-1.6
  [3]   sun-jdk-1.6-plugin2
root@smoker / #   

Should I try the plugin2 kind?  What is that anyway?  Can someone think
of something else that could cause this?  I do have adblock installed
but it crashes even if I disable it.  This works fine with Konqueror
tho.  I did recently do a emerge -ev world which updated a few things
but not Seamonkey, tho it did recompile it.  Just in case it may matter,
here is some more info:

root@smoker / # emerge -pv seamonkey

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild     U ] www-client/seamonkey-1.1.16 [1.1.15] USE="crypt ipv6
java ldap xprint -debug -gnome -mozdevelop -moznocompose -moznoirc
-moznomail -moznopango -moznoroaming -postgres -xforms -xinerama" 37,194 kB

Total: 1 package (1 upgrade), Size of downloads: 37,194 kB
root@smoker / # emerge --info
Portage 2.2_rc28 (default/linux/x86/2008.0/desktop, gcc-4.3.2,
glibc-2.8_p20080602-r1, 2.6.23-gentoo-r8 i686)
=================================================================
System uname:
Linux-2.6.23-gentoo-r8-i686-AMD_Athlon-tm-_XP_2500+-with-glibc2.0
Timestamp of tree: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:45:01 +0000
app-shells/bash:     3.2_p39
dev-java/java-config: 2.1.7
dev-lang/python:     2.5.2-r7
dev-util/cmake:      2.6.2-r1
sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.11.1
sys-apps/sandbox:    1.2.18.1-r2
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.63
sys-devel/automake:  1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10.2
sys-devel/binutils:  2.18-r3
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.0-r4
sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.26
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.27-r2
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"
CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config
/usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/config /var/lib/hsqldb"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d
/etc/env.d/java/ /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild
/etc/terminfo /etc/udev/rules.d"
CXXFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--with-bdeps y"
FEATURES="buildsyspkg distlocks fixpackages parallel-fetch preserve-libs
protect-owned sandbox sfperms strict unmerge-orphans userfetch"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="ftp://gentoo.chem.wisc.edu/gentoo/
ftp://lug.mtu.edu/gentoo/ "
LANG="en_US"
LC_ALL="en_US.utf8"
LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1"
LINGUAS="en_US en"
MAKEOPTS="-j3"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT="/"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS="--timeout=600"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times
--compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180
--exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.namerica.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="3dnow X acl acpi alsa amd arts artswrappersuid automount berkdb
bzip2 cairo cddb cdr chroot cli cracklib crypt cups curl dbus dri dvd
dvdr dvdread eds emboss encode esd evo exif fam fdftk fortran gdbm gif
gimp gkrellm gphoto2 gpm gstreamer gtk hal hbci htmlhandbook iconv ipv6
isdnlog java javascript jbig jpeg jpeg2k justify kde kdeprefix ldap
libnotify libwww logrotate loop-aes mad midi mikmod mmx mp3 mpeg mplayer
mudflap ncurses nptl nptlonly nsplugin offensive ofx ogg opengl openmp
pam parport pcre pdf perl png ppds pppd python qt3 qt3support qt4
quicktime readline realmedia reflection sdl seamonkey session spell spl
sqlite sse ssl startup-notification svg sysfs syslog tcl tcpd tiff tk
truetype unicode usb vorbis webkit win32codecs wma wmf wmp x86 xml xorg
xprint xv yahoo zeroconf zlib" ALSA_CARDS="emu10k1"
ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug
file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw
multi null plug rate route share shm softvol" CAMERAS="canon ptp2"
ELIBC="glibc" INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse evdev" KERNEL="linux"
LINGUAS="en_US en" USERLAND="GNU" VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia nv"
Unset:  CPPFLAGS, CTARGET, FFLAGS, INSTALL_MASK, PORTAGE_COMPRESS,
PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY

root@smoker / #

Another thing, on occasion I can open a email and it starts loading
remote content and then crashes too.  This is a completely different
site from ATT.com.  It's got to be a setting or something on my end.

I also see that Seamonkey is going to upgrade but I think it is just
security fixes according to what I read anyway.  Will test later on
after spending several hours downloading.  Stinking dial-up.

Any ideas?  My phone bill is going to be due in a few weeks. 

Thanks much.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

[gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

[Hartmut Figge]

Dale:

>Well, I'm back again.  I did a new profile by renaming .mozilla and then
>copying over my emails, passwords and bookmarks.  I didn't copy anything
>else that I can recall.  I also didn't copy prefs.js.  I did edit it to
>point to my old passwords file but surely not a problem.  Now, Seamonkey
>crashes again.

So you have no extension installed at the moment? Fine. Then look under
Help->About Plug-ins. Entries there more than the default ones? If so
lets temporarily get rid of them.

Close SM, rename /usr/lib/nsbrowser to /usr/lib/nsbrowser-s, restart SM
and look again for the plugins. Gone? If so go to
http://wireless.att.com/ and see what happens.

It's a long since i used such an archaic version of SM like you. *g*

Hartmut

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

[Dale]

Hartmut Figge wrote:
> Dale:
>
>   
>> Well, I'm back again.  I did a new profile by renaming .mozilla and then
>> copying over my emails, passwords and bookmarks.  I didn't copy anything
>> else that I can recall.  I also didn't copy prefs.js.  I did edit it to
>> point to my old passwords file but surely not a problem.  Now, Seamonkey
>> crashes again.
>>     
>
> So you have no extension installed at the moment? Fine. Then look under
> Help->About Plug-ins. Entries there more than the default ones? If so
> lets temporarily get rid of them.
>
> Close SM, rename /usr/lib/nsbrowser to /usr/lib/nsbrowser-s, restart SM
> and look again for the plugins. Gone? If so go to
> http://wireless.att.com/ and see what happens.
>
> It's a long since i used such an archaic version of SM like you. *g*
>
> Hartmut
>
>
>
>   

Archaic?  I read about the new Seamonkey 2 but it said it was not ready
for mainstream or something to that effect.  Is it safe enough? 

I'll give those tricks a try.  Heck, it can't hurt anything.  I'll
unmerge something if needed.  I just think it has to be a plugin or
something.  Weird part is it crashing on that email loading up. 
Something in common somewhere.

Will post back shortly.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

[Dale]

Hartmut Figge wrote:
> Dale:
>
>   
>> Well, I'm back again.  I did a new profile by renaming .mozilla and then
>> copying over my emails, passwords and bookmarks.  I didn't copy anything
>> else that I can recall.  I also didn't copy prefs.js.  I did edit it to
>> point to my old passwords file but surely not a problem.  Now, Seamonkey
>> crashes again.
>>     
>
> So you have no extension installed at the moment? Fine. Then look under
> Help->About Plug-ins. Entries there more than the default ones? If so
> lets temporarily get rid of them.
>
> Close SM, rename /usr/lib/nsbrowser to /usr/lib/nsbrowser-s, restart SM
> and look again for the plugins. Gone? If so go to
> http://wireless.att.com/ and see what happens.
>
> It's a long since i used such an archaic version of SM like you. *g*
>
> Hartmut
>
>
>   

OK.  I renamed it to .old then restarted Seamonkey and it still
crashed.  So nothing changed there.  What else can I try?  This is the
list of things on about:plugins:

QuickTime Plug-in 6.0 / 7
RealPlayer 9
Windows Media Player Plugin
mplayerplug-in 3.50
Shockwave Flash
Java(TM) Plug-in 1.5.0_18-b02
Demo Print Plugin for unix/linux

Most of those are linked to mplayerplug-in.  I could get rid of that if
needed.  I just have to unmerge it I guess.  I'm still downloading the
new version of Seamonkey.

Thoughts?

Dale

:-)  :-) 

[gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

[Hartmut Figge]

Dale:

[SM 1.x]
>Archaic?

For me, yes. Since years i use nightlies of SM. Not quite correct,
though, because i update the source, formerly from cvs, now with hg,
apply my own patches and build my own SM.

>I read about the new Seamonkey 2 but it said it was not ready
>for mainstream or something to that effect.  Is it safe enough?

Not the normal nightlies. Sometimes there are interesting effects. But
there are now candidates which should be safe enough. The last one:

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/2.0a3-candidates/

>I'll give those tricks a try.

With SM2 it would be easier. There's now an Add-on Manager.
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/am090411.png (27 KB)

No problem to disable some plugins or extensions for testing.

>Weird part is it crashing on that email loading up. 

Weird indeed.

Hartmut

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

[Dale]

Hartmut Figge wrote:
> Dale:
>
> [SM 1.x]
>   
>> Archaic?
>>     
>
> For me, yes. Since years i use nightlies of SM. Not quite correct,
> though, because i update the source, formerly from cvs, now with hg,
> apply my own patches and build my own SM.
>
>   
>> I read about the new Seamonkey 2 but it said it was not ready
>> for mainstream or something to that effect.  Is it safe enough?
>>     
>
> Not the normal nightlies. Sometimes there are interesting effects. But
> there are now candidates which should be safe enough. The last one:
>
> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/2.0a3-candidates/
>
>   
>> I'll give those tricks a try.
>>     
>
> With SM2 it would be easier. There's now an Add-on Manager.
> http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/am090411.png (27 KB)
>
> No problem to disable some plugins or extensions for testing.
>
>   
>> Weird part is it crashing on that email loading up. 
>>     
>
> Weird indeed.
>
> Hartmut
>
>   

Just for curiosity, I'm going to unmerge mplayer.  That will remove a
LOT of the plugins.  I'll report back but I suspect this will still
crash.  If it still crashes after the upgrade today, I'm going to unmask
Seamonkey2 and see what it looks like.  At least it is not as bad as my
recent xorg upgrade.  :-@

BTW, I use gmail so I don't get copies to reply to so I have to keep
coming back to yours.  PITA but it's free.  :-D

Thanks

Dale

:-)  :-) 

[gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

[Hartmut Figge]

Dale:

>OK.  I renamed it to .old then restarted Seamonkey and it still
>crashed.

First you should have looked if the plugins are gone now.

> So nothing changed there.  What else can I try?  This is the
>list of things on about:plugins:
>
>QuickTime Plug-in 6.0 / 7
>RealPlayer 9
>Windows Media Player Plugin
>mplayerplug-in 3.50
>Shockwave Flash
>Java(TM) Plug-in 1.5.0_18-b02
>Demo Print Plugin for unix/linux

Despite of  the last one all should have disappeared after renaming
/usr/lib/nsbrowser and restarting of SM. For me that worked. Hm.

If your Shockwave Flash comes from the package adobe-flash, then

hafi@e675 ~ $ equery f adobe-flash
[...]
/usr/lib/nsbrowser/plugins/libflashplayer.so -> /opt/netscape/plugins
[...]

So it seems that on your system /usr/lib/nsbrowser is also used. And
then i don't understand how at least this plugin appears in
abput:plugins after renaming this dir and restarting SM.

The other plugins in your list i cannot search because i don't have them
installed. Gentoo lacks an equivalent to apt-file. Sigh.

But this mplayerplug-in. I had tested it some time ago and unemerged it
because of spurious crashes. I am using mozplugger.

Hartmut

[gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

[Hartmut Figge]

Dale:

>BTW, I use gmail so I don't get copies to reply to so I have to keep
>coming back to yours.  PITA but it's free.  :-D

I use news.gmane.org and there is gmane.linux.gentoo.user a normal
newsgroup. No mails. :)

Hartmut

[gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

[Hartmut Figge]

Dale:

>If it still crashes after the upgrade today, I'm going to unmask
>Seamonkey2 and see what it looks like.

One caveat. Your profile will be automatically migrated and you should
be able to use SM2 or SM1. But for emails, if you fetch them with one SM
they are no longer available for the other, unless

[x] Leave messages on server

Hartmut

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

[Dale]

Hartmut Figge wrote:
> Dale:
>
>   
>> If it still crashes after the upgrade today, I'm going to unmask
>> Seamonkey2 and see what it looks like.
>>     
>
> One caveat. Your profile will be automatically migrated and you should
> be able to use SM2 or SM1. But for emails, if you fetch them with one SM
> they are no longer available for the other, unless
>
> [x] Leave messages on server
>
> Hartmut
>
>   

I may just tell it to leave them on server for a while till I see if it
is stable for me.  I like Seamonkey.  Konqueror is OK but I prefer
Seamonkey.  I would use Firefoz if it wasn't for my emails.  I archive
all my emails here.  I got about 40,000 or so so far.  Most of that is
mailing lists tho.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

[Dale]

Hartmut Figge wrote:
>
> Despite of  the last one all should have disappeared after renaming
> /usr/lib/nsbrowser and restarting of SM. For me that worked. Hm.
>
> If your Shockwave Flash comes from the package adobe-flash, then
>
> hafi@e675 ~ $ equery f adobe-flash
> [...]
> /usr/lib/nsbrowser/plugins/libflashplayer.so -> /opt/netscape/plugins
> [...]
>
> So it seems that on your system /usr/lib/nsbrowser is also used. And
> then i don't understand how at least this plugin appears in
> abput:plugins after renaming this dir and restarting SM.
>
> The other plugins in your list i cannot search because i don't have them
> installed. Gentoo lacks an equivalent to apt-file. Sigh.
>
> But this mplayerplug-in. I had tested it some time ago and unemerged it
> because of spurious crashes. I am using mozplugger.
>
> Hartmut
>
>   

You are correct.  Everything but the last one was gone when I renamed
the directory.  So no need to unmerge anything.  This appears to be a
Seamonkey issue and I have no clue where to start.  I ran Seamonkey in a
console as a user.  This is what I got for a error:

/usr/libexec/mozilla-launcher: line 119: 16912 Segmentation fault     
$(type -P aoss) "$mozbin" $xulparams "$@"
seamonkey-bin exited with non-zero status (139)

I can't help but notice xulpaprams in there.  Is that related to
xulrunner?  That give you any ideas?

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

[gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

[Hartmut Figge]

Dale:

>This appears to be a Seamonkey issue and I have no clue where to
>start.  I ran Seamonkey in a console as a user.

To recall. You have renamed ~/.mozilla, SM newly emerged so that it
creates a new ~/.mozilla at the next start, not installed any extension
and have now only the default plugin in about:plugins.

And your SM crashes at http://wireless.att.com/

Interesting. :)

>This is what I got for a error:
>
>/usr/libexec/mozilla-launcher: line 119: 16912 Segmentation fault     
>$(type -P aoss) "$mozbin" $xulparams "$@"
>seamonkey-bin exited with non-zero status (139)
>
>I can't help but notice xulpaprams in there.  Is that related to
>xulrunner?  That give you any ideas?

No, that doesn't help. Before i disabled the crashreporter in my SM2 with

----- ~/.mozconfig -----
ac_add_options --disable-crashreporter
---------------

i got a popup window in case of a crash with informations, which could
be sent to mozilla.org to automatically generate a meaningful report.
But SM1? I don't remember. Too much time.

But you had modified your profile and your prefs.js by hand. Was not
necessary for testing the URL.

Create a new profile with Tools->Switch Profile->Manage Profiles...,
switch to it and do nothing else than calling http://wireless.att.com/
in the browser.

Crash again? If so, then i would fetch
http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/1.1.16/seamonkey-1.1.16.en-US.linux-i686.tar.gz,
put it in a new dir in home, e.g. ~/.sm-test, decompress it there,
change to the dir seamonkey and issue there ./seamonkey after renaming
~/.mozilla to e.g. ~/.mozilla-old-2.

Hm, is 'issue' the right verb? *g*

And, you had never run SM with sudo, right? This could severely damage
your profile.

Hartmut

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

[Dale]

Hartmut Figge wrote:
>
> To recall. You have renamed ~/.mozilla, SM newly emerged so that it
> creates a new ~/.mozilla at the next start, not installed any extension
> and have now only the default plugin in about:plugins.
>
> And your SM crashes at http://wireless.att.com/
>
> Interesting. :)
>   

A few days ago, I did rename .mozilla to .mozilla.old and it worked
fine.  Then I copied over my emails, password files and bookmarks.  I
did notice that when I pointed the prefs.js file to the correct password
file, it started messing up shortly after that.  Keep in mind that all I
did is correct the name of the password file.  I guess it could be that
something is messed up with the password file.  After all, I do have to
enter my login and password there.  I would assume it would access the
password file at some point in loading the page.


>
> No, that doesn't help. Before i disabled the crashreporter in my SM2 with
>
> ----- ~/.mozconfig -----
> ac_add_options --disable-crashreporter
> ---------------
>
> i got a popup window in case of a crash with informations, which could
> be sent to mozilla.org to automatically generate a meaningful report.
> But SM1? I don't remember. Too much time.
>
> But you had modified your profile and your prefs.js by hand. Was not
> necessary for testing the URL.
>
> Create a new profile with Tools->Switch Profile->Manage Profiles...,
> switch to it and do nothing else than calling http://wireless.att.com/
> in the browser.
>
> Crash again? If so, then i would fetch
> http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/1.1.16/seamonkey-1.1.16.en-US.linux-i686.tar.gz,
> put it in a new dir in home, e.g. ~/.sm-test, decompress it there,
> change to the dir seamonkey and issue there ./seamonkey after renaming
> ~/.mozilla to e.g. ~/.mozilla-old-2.
>
> Hm, is 'issue' the right verb? *g*
>
> And, you had never run SM with sudo, right? This could severely damage
> your profile.
>
> Hartmut
>
>
>   

I would hate to have to install it locally that way.  I sort of let
portage handle all that.  I mess up enough already with portage helping
me.  lol 

I have ran Seamonkey as root before but never used sudo.  I have never
used sudo for anything actually.  I have to use root to install adblock
or it doesn't work.  That is the only time I use it as root tho.  I got
that link bookmarked.  I go to it, install adblock and then close it. 

I'm hoping this new version will fix something.  Other wise, I may try a
new profile without copying my passwords file.  I would hate to loose
those.  I use several different passwords depending on the site.  May
also try Seamonkey2.

Time will tell I guess.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

[Dale]

Hartmut Figge wrote:
> Dale:
>
>   
>> This appears to be a Seamonkey issue and I have no clue where to
>> start.  I ran Seamonkey in a console as a user.
>>     
>
> To recall. You have renamed ~/.mozilla, SM newly emerged so that it
> creates a new ~/.mozilla at the next start, not installed any extension
> and have now only the default plugin in about:plugins.
>
> And your SM crashes at http://wireless.att.com/
>
> Interesting. :)
>
>   

I found another site that it crashes on. 

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2513/fan-214/Thermaltake_120mm_Smart_Case_Fan_II_A2029.html

Makes one wonder what these two have in common.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

[gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

[Hartmut Figge]

Dale:

>A few days ago, I did rename .mozilla to .mozilla.old and it worked
>fine.  Then I copied over my emails, password files and bookmarks.

You should really test with a new profile as described. That is the
standard way to test the integrity of a profile.

No crash in the testprofile and you know, that something is wrong in the
old one. And if the testprofile crashes you can go back to the old
profile and have nothing lost but some minutes.

>I did notice that when I pointed the prefs.js file to the correct
>password file, it started messing up shortly after that.

Sounds like the prefs.js is corrupt after editing. Which editor did you
use? And surely SM was closed while editing, hm? ;)

>Keep in mind that all I did is correct the name of the password file.

That could be done.

>I guess it could be that something is messed up with the password
>file.

And i guess that something went wrong with editing the prefs.js. *g*

>> Create a new profile with Tools->Switch Profile->Manage Profiles...,
>> switch to it and do nothing else than calling http://wireless.att.com/
>> in the browser.

Do so!

[ seamonkey-1.1.16.en-US.linux-i686.tar.gz from mozilla.org ]
>I would hate to have to install it locally that way.  I sort of let
>portage handle all that.  I mess up enough already with portage helping
>me.  lol

I doubt i will be necessary after using a testprofile.

And there is no danger in unpacking and running SM locally. It will not
interfere with gentoo and can be safely removed after testing without
leaving traces.

But probably not necessary. Did i mention already that you should use a
testprofile?

>I have ran Seamonkey as root before but never used sudo.

Than there is no danger. Running as root is okay.

Hartmut

[gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

[Hartmut Figge]

Dale:

>I found another site that it crashes on. 
>
>http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2513/fan-214/Thermaltake_120mm_Smart_Case_Fan_II_A2029.html

No problem here. Tested with a gentoo SM 1.1.16 with --no-remote while
running my SM2.

Hartmut

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

[Dale]

Hartmut Figge wrote:
> Dale:
>
>   
>> A few days ago, I did rename .mozilla to .mozilla.old and it worked
>> fine.  Then I copied over my emails, password files and bookmarks.
>>     
>
> You should really test with a new profile as described. That is the
> standard way to test the integrity of a profile.
>
> No crash in the testprofile and you know, that something is wrong in the
> old one. And if the testprofile crashes you can go back to the old
> profile and have nothing lost but some minutes.
>
>   

This is what I did the other day when I renamed .mozilla to
.mozilla.old.  Seamonkey did NOT crash when I did that.  It also didn't
after I transfered my emails and didn't for a little bit after I
transfered the password files. 

>> I did notice that when I pointed the prefs.js file to the correct
>> password file, it started messing up shortly after that.
>>     
>
> Sounds like the prefs.js is corrupt after editing. Which editor did you
> use? And surely SM was closed while editing, hm? ;)
>   

Actually, I used about:config to edit it.  I did restart Seamonkey tho
it shouldn't be necessary.  My old passwords did show up then tho. 
Again, that site worked the first couple times.

>   
>> Keep in mind that all I did is correct the name of the password file.
>>     
>
> That could be done.
>
>   
>> I guess it could be that something is messed up with the password
>> file.
>>     
>
> And i guess that something went wrong with editing the prefs.js. *g*
>   

This is the line that i changed:

wallet.SchemaValueFileName

And I changed it to:

60988542.s

Which is the name of the file that contains my password info.  Is there
a way to "export" then import my password info?  I can't find one other
than the way I did it.

>   
>>> Create a new profile with Tools->Switch Profile->Manage Profiles...,
>>> switch to it and do nothing else than calling http://wireless.att.com/
>>> in the browser.
>>>       
>
> Do so!
>
> [ seamonkey-1.1.16.en-US.linux-i686.tar.gz from mozilla.org ]
>   
>> I would hate to have to install it locally that way.  I sort of let
>> portage handle all that.  I mess up enough already with portage helping
>> me.  lol
>>     
>
> I doubt i will be necessary after using a testprofile.
>
> And there is no danger in unpacking and running SM locally. It will not
> interfere with gentoo and can be safely removed after testing without
> leaving traces.
>
> But probably not necessary. Did i mention already that you should use a
> testprofile?
>   

I have done that on windoze before.  It does work.  I just pulled out
enough hair this week.  o_O

>   
>> I have ran Seamonkey as root before but never used sudo.
>>     
>
> Than there is no danger. Running as root is okay.
>
> Hartmut
>
>   

Cool.  I got to have my adblock.  I'm on dial-up and I try to save all
the downloading I can.

Dale

:-)  :-)

[gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

[Hartmut Figge]

Dale:
>Hartmut Figge wrote:

>> No crash in the testprofile and you know, that something is wrong in the
>> old one. And if the testprofile crashes you can go back to the old
>> profile and have nothing lost but some minutes.
>
>This is what I did the other day when I renamed .mozilla to
>.mozilla.old.  Seamonkey did NOT crash when I did that.

Fine. No crash before ...

>It also didn't after I transfered my emails and didn't for a little
>bit after I transfered the password files.

... you touched the profile ...

>> Sounds like the prefs.js is corrupt after editing. Which editor did you
>> use? And surely SM was closed while editing, hm? ;)
>
>Actually, I used about:config to edit it.  I did restart Seamonkey tho
>it shouldn't be necessary.  My old passwords did show up then tho. 
>Again, that site worked the first couple times.

... but that could mean that SM with the unchanged profile could have
crashed also if only you had tried long enough.

Unlikely, though, because you seem the only one with this specific crash.

Now i have looked in the former thread and found

|After some testing, it is when I copy the pref.js
|file that the emails disappear again.

and i remembered you difficulties with emails. Did you really copy the
prefs.js from your old profile, edited it and use it now? Shudder. *g*

>> And i guess that something went wrong with editing the prefs.js. *g*
>
>This is the line that i changed:
>
>wallet.SchemaValueFileName
>
>And I changed it to:
>
>60988542.s

Mhm. This pref is for form history and should point to number.w. The
pref for passwords is signon.SignonFileName and points to number.s. Form
history pointing to number.s is, eh, quite unusual. ;)

>Which is the name of the file that contains my password info.

number.s contains password info, that's correct, but the corresponding
pref is signon.SignonFileName and not wallet.SchemaValueFileName.

>Is there a way to "export" then import my password info? I can't find
>one other than the way I did it.

Moving to a new profile isn't too hard. Years ago i had done so
sometimes, mostly, to get get rid of a corrupted prefs.js. E.g. at the
time as i tried sudo. *g*

Never use the old prefs.js or parts of it. I don't like changing prefs
with about:config and prefer user_pref in the user.js. There i can
comment and i know later what i had done. And i can use the user.js in a
new profile.

And for number.s and number.w, well, i had edited prefs.js, naturally
after making a backup.

>>  Did i mention already that you should use a testprofile?
>
>I have done that on windoze before.  It does work.  I just pulled out
>enough hair this week.  o_O

Reminds me on my migration to xorg 1.5. *g*

Hartmut

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

[Dale]

Hartmut Figge wrote:
> Dale:
>   
>> Hartmut Figge wrote:
>>     
>
>   
>>> No crash in the testprofile and you know, that something is wrong in the
>>> old one. And if the testprofile crashes you can go back to the old
>>> profile and have nothing lost but some minutes.
>>>       
>> This is what I did the other day when I renamed .mozilla to
>> .mozilla.old.  Seamonkey did NOT crash when I did that.
>>     
>
> Fine. No crash before ...
>
>   
>> It also didn't after I transfered my emails and didn't for a little
>> bit after I transfered the password files.
>>     
>
> ... you touched the profile ...
>
>   
>>> Sounds like the prefs.js is corrupt after editing. Which editor did you
>>> use? And surely SM was closed while editing, hm? ;)
>>>       
>> Actually, I used about:config to edit it.  I did restart Seamonkey tho
>> it shouldn't be necessary.  My old passwords did show up then tho. 
>> Again, that site worked the first couple times.
>>     
>
> ... but that could mean that SM with the unchanged profile could have
> crashed also if only you had tried long enough.
>
> Unlikely, though, because you seem the only one with this specific crash.
>
> Now i have looked in the former thread and found
>
> |After some testing, it is when I copy the pref.js
> |file that the emails disappear again.
>
> and i remembered you difficulties with emails. Did you really copy the
> prefs.js from your old profile, edited it and use it now? Shudder. *g*
>   

I did at one point but then I removed the profile and started over
again.  What I do is this.  I make a copy of my .mozilla directory to
another hard drive for extra protection.  Then I rename, start fresh and
do whatever.  I may delete the "clean" profile a dozen times until I get
things sorted.  I would bet I deleted the "clean" profile a dozen times
while trying several different things to get that site to load without
crashing.  With the last "clean" profile, I only copied the emails,
password files, bookmarks then edited the prefs.js file to point to the
new "clean" profile.  I figured out that copying the prefs.js file was
the problem so I stopped copying that.

I did change some preferences under the Edit menu.  I just wonder if one
of those triggers something that is somewhat unique to me.  I am weird
according to some.  I may have some setting that no one else uses.

>   
>>> And i guess that something went wrong with editing the prefs.js. *g*
>>>       
>> This is the line that i changed:
>>
>> wallet.SchemaValueFileName
>>
>> And I changed it to:
>>
>> 60988542.s
>>     
>
> Mhm. This pref is for form history and should point to number.w. The
> pref for passwords is signon.SignonFileName and points to number.s. Form
> history pointing to number.s is, eh, quite unusual. ;)
>
>   
>> Which is the name of the file that contains my password info.
>>     
>
> number.s contains password info, that's correct, but the corresponding
> pref is signon.SignonFileName and not wallet.SchemaValueFileName.
>   

Well, according to a how to, that was the correct file and it did load
my passwords as soon as I pointed it to that file.  I found that by
looking at about:config and finding the new password file it generated
while making the clean profile.  I then replaced the location to point
to my old file.  I may try that in a bit tho just in case.  I still have
my old .mozilla backups.

>   
>> Is there a way to "export" then import my password info? I can't find
>> one other than the way I did it.
>>     
>
> Moving to a new profile isn't too hard. Years ago i had done so
> sometimes, mostly, to get get rid of a corrupted prefs.js. E.g. at the
> time as i tried sudo. *g*
>
> Never use the old prefs.js or parts of it. I don't like changing prefs
> with about:config and prefer user_pref in the user.js. There i can
> comment and i know later what i had done. And i can use the user.js in a
> new profile.
>   

I need to research user.js.  I have never heard of that one. 

> And for number.s and number.w, well, i had edited prefs.js, naturally
> after making a backup.
>
>   
>>>  Did i mention already that you should use a testprofile?
>>>       
>> I have done that on windoze before.  It does work.  I just pulled out
>> enough hair this week.  o_O
>>     
>
> Reminds me on my migration to xorg 1.5. *g*
>
> Hartmut
>
>   

Xorg is why I have very little hair right now.  I went back to the OLD
xorg and did -hal to boot.  I masked the new xorg for now.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

P. S.  About to try the updated Seamonkey.  < Dale crosses fingers, toes
and whatever else he can cross >

[gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

[Hartmut Figge]

Dale:

>What I do is this.  I make a copy of my .mozilla directory to
>another hard drive for extra protection.

Not bad.

>Then I rename,

So did i.

>start fresh and do whatever.

Nothing complicated, really. Start SM and create the old accounts
exactly as they were before. Close SM and replace the folder Mail on the
new profile with the folder Mail from the old profile.

For News it should be the same, but i never had done so and preferred
fresh newsgroups. Because, well, there often are ugly remains, some of
the .msf may be corrupt and also some lines in the newsrc. For news i
find it better to start fresh over.

Except, of course, the tedious subcribing of the newsgroups. Here's how
i do this.

You had already created accounts for all newsservers and should have
made a refresh for them also. Then all you have to do is to copy the
newsrc-newsserver files from the old profile to the new one and delete
in each of it in each line all after the :.

Here is an example. Currently

----- newsrc-news.gmane.org -----
gmane.linux.gentoo.user.german: 1-33077
gmane.linux.gentoo.user: 1-212427
gmane.linux.gentoo.devel: 1-60793
gmane.linux.debian.user.german: 1-242119
gmane.linux.ubuntu.user.german: 1-16702
gmane.comp.emulators.wine.user: 1-43376
gmane.comp.emulators.wine.devel: 1-68902
gmane.comp.emulators.wine.releases: 1-87
gmane.emacs.gnus.general: 1-68424
gmane.emacs.gnus.user: 1-12111
---------------

would become for the new profile

----- newsrc-news.gmane.org -----
gmane.linux.gentoo.user.german:
gmane.linux.gentoo.user:
gmane.linux.gentoo.devel:
gmane.linux.debian.user.german:
gmane.linux.ubuntu.user.german:
gmane.comp.emulators.wine.user:
gmane.comp.emulators.wine.devel:
gmane.comp.emulators.wine.releases:
gmane.emacs.gnus.general:
gmane.emacs.gnus.user:
---------------

In this way i reuse my old subscriptions if i go to a new newsserver.

Then you need number.s and number.w from the old profile. In the new one
other numbers are used so they had to be adjusted in the prefs.js.

Other useful files are abook.mab, bookmarks.html and if you are using
certificates cert8.db and key3.db.

>With the last "clean" profile, I only copied the emails,
>password files, bookmarks then edited the prefs.js file to point to the
>new "clean" profile.

Hm? That i don't understand.

>I did change some preferences under the Edit menu.

Why not.

>I just wonder if one of those triggers something that is somewhat
>unique to me.

There should be no problem.

>> number.s contains password info, that's correct, but the corresponding
>> pref is signon.SignonFileName and not wallet.SchemaValueFileName.
>>   
>
>Well, according to a how to, that was the correct file

Sure, number.s is for the passwords. It is the correct file but belongs
to signon.SignonFileName ;)

>and it did load my passwords as soon as I pointed it to that file.  I
>found that by looking at about:config and finding the new password
>file it generated while making the clean profile.

I have tried that now. Starting SM, closing it immediately and looking
in the profile there is neither number.s nor number.w. You have to input
at least one password before number.s is created.

>I then replaced the location to point to my old file.

You must copy the old number.s to the new profile and then change the
value in the prefs.js from the new number to the old number, yes.

>> I don't like changing prefs with about:config and prefer user_pref
>> in the user.js. There i can comment and i know later what i had
>> done. And i can use the user.js in a new profile.
>
>I need to research user.js.  I have never heard of that one.

The user.js is a normal textfile in the profile which must be created it
it not exists. In the same directory in which the prefs.js resides.

Upon start SM looks into the user.js and put the found prefs into the
prefs.js.

Here's an excerpt from mine.

----- user.js -----
user_pref("mail.quoted_graphical", false);

user_pref("mailnews.display.disable_format_flowed_support", true);
user_pref("mailnews.send_plaintext_flowed", false);

user_pref("mail.compose.other.header", "Supersedes,Control");

// Leerzeilenproblematik im gequoteten Text
user_pref("mail.quoteasblock", false);

// Beim Start Threads zugeklappt lassen
user_pref("mailnews.scroll_to_new_message", false);
---------------

>P. S.  About to try the updated Seamonkey.  < Dale crosses fingers, toes
>and whatever else he can cross >

You mean SM2? Well, it will migrate your old profile and if there are
errors ... ;)

Hartmut

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

[Dale]

Hartmut Figge wrote:
> Dale:
>
>   
>> start fresh and do whatever.
>>     
>
> Nothing complicated, really. Start SM and create the old accounts
> exactly as they were before. Close SM and replace the folder Mail on the
> new profile with the folder Mail from the old profile.
>   

That's basically what I did.  It was the passwords that gave me fits.  I
have a lot of passwords since I pay most bills online and order online a
lot too.  I find the cheapest price whether I have done business with
them in the past or not.

> For News it should be the same, but i never had done so and preferred
> fresh newsgroups. Because, well, there often are ugly remains, some of
> the .msf may be corrupt and also some lines in the newsrc. For news i
> find it better to start fresh over.
>
> Except, of course, the tedious subcribing of the newsgroups. Here's how
> i do this.
>
> You had already created accounts for all newsservers and should have
> made a refresh for them also. Then all you have to do is to copy the
> newsrc-newsserver files from the old profile to the new one and delete
> in each of it in each line all after the :.
>
> Here is an example. Currently
>
> ----- newsrc-news.gmane.org -----
> gmane.linux.gentoo.user.german: 1-33077
> gmane.linux.gentoo.user: 1-212427
> gmane.linux.gentoo.devel: 1-60793
> gmane.linux.debian.user.german: 1-242119
> gmane.linux.ubuntu.user.german: 1-16702
> gmane.comp.emulators.wine.user: 1-43376
> gmane.comp.emulators.wine.devel: 1-68902
> gmane.comp.emulators.wine.releases: 1-87
> gmane.emacs.gnus.general: 1-68424
> gmane.emacs.gnus.user: 1-12111
> ---------------
>
> would become for the new profile
>
> ----- newsrc-news.gmane.org -----
> gmane.linux.gentoo.user.german:
> gmane.linux.gentoo.user:
> gmane.linux.gentoo.devel:
> gmane.linux.debian.user.german:
> gmane.linux.ubuntu.user.german:
> gmane.comp.emulators.wine.user:
> gmane.comp.emulators.wine.devel:
> gmane.comp.emulators.wine.releases:
> gmane.emacs.gnus.general:
> gmane.emacs.gnus.user:
> ---------------
>
> In this way i reuse my old subscriptions if i go to a new newsserver.
>   

I don't have any news accounts.  Maybe one day tho.  ;-)  I get to bug a
new set of people. 

> Then you need number.s and number.w from the old profile. In the new one
> other numbers are used so they had to be adjusted in the prefs.js.
>
> Other useful files are abook.mab, bookmarks.html and if you are using
> certificates cert8.db and key3.db.
>   

I did copy the key3.db file because the how to said it was part of the
passwords file set.

>   
>> With the last "clean" profile, I only copied the emails,
>> password files, bookmarks then edited the prefs.js file to point to the
>> new "clean" profile.
>>     
>
> Hm? That i don't understand.
>   

Well, at first, it wouldn't find the .s and .w file so no passwords.  I
had to sort of point it out to Seamonkey.

>   
>> I did change some preferences under the Edit menu.
>>     
>
> Why not.
>
>   
>> I just wonder if one of those triggers something that is somewhat
>> unique to me.
>>     
>
> There should be no problem.
>
>   
>>> number.s contains password info, that's correct, but the corresponding
>>> pref is signon.SignonFileName and not wallet.SchemaValueFileName.
>>>   
>>>       
>> Well, according to a how to, that was the correct file
>>     
>
> Sure, number.s is for the passwords. It is the correct file but belongs
> to signon.SignonFileName ;)
>   

On mine, it appears to be the same for both, even in the new profile. 
May test that more later.

>   
>> and it did load my passwords as soon as I pointed it to that file.  I
>> found that by looking at about:config and finding the new password
>> file it generated while making the clean profile.
>>     
>
> I have tried that now. Starting SM, closing it immediately and looking
> in the profile there is neither number.s nor number.w. You have to input
> at least one password before number.s is created.
>
>   
>> I then replaced the location to point to my old file.
>>     
>
> You must copy the old number.s to the new profile and then change the
> value in the prefs.js from the new number to the old number, yes.
>
>   
>>> I don't like changing prefs with about:config and prefer user_pref
>>> in the user.js. There i can comment and i know later what i had
>>> done. And i can use the user.js in a new profile.
>>>       
>> I need to research user.js.  I have never heard of that one.
>>     
>
> The user.js is a normal textfile in the profile which must be created it
> it not exists. In the same directory in which the prefs.js resides.
>
> Upon start SM looks into the user.js and put the found prefs into the
> prefs.js.
>
> Here's an excerpt from mine.
>
> ----- user.js -----
> user_pref("mail.quoted_graphical", false);
>
> user_pref("mailnews.display.disable_format_flowed_support", true);
> user_pref("mailnews.send_plaintext_flowed", false);
>
> user_pref("mail.compose.other.header", "Supersedes,Control");
>
> // Leerzeilenproblematik im gequoteten Text
> user_pref("mail.quoteasblock", false);
>
> // Beim Start Threads zugeklappt lassen
> user_pref("mailnews.scroll_to_new_message", false);
> ---------------
>
>   
>> P. S.  About to try the updated Seamonkey.  < Dale crosses fingers, toes
>> and whatever else he can cross >
>>     
>
> You mean SM2? Well, it will migrate your old profile and if there are
> errors ... ;)
>
> Hartmut
>
>
>
>   

I was talking about the Seamonkey -1.1.16.  The Seamonkey2 is a binary. 
I'm not real big on those, if I can help it.  May try it anyway, maybe.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Seamonkey crashes on website.

[Dale]

Hartmut Figge wrote:
> Dale:
>
>   
>> If it still crashes after the upgrade today, I'm going to unmask
>> Seamonkey2 and see what it looks like.
>>     
>
> One caveat. Your profile will be automatically migrated and you should
> be able to use SM2 or SM1. But for emails, if you fetch them with one SM
> they are no longer available for the other, unless
>
> [x] Leave messages on server
>
> Hartmut
>
>
>   

Well, I figured out what my problem was after all.  It wasn't the
profile, it was gcc.  This is in another thread but I switched back to
gcc 4.1 and it recently finished recompiling Seamonkey and the website
loads up just fine now.  I can log in and view my cell phone account and
everything.

This is a rather weird ending.  Who would have thunk it?

Dale

:-)  :-)