From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LiRLN-0005R5-2U for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 10:43:53 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 893D2E034C; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 10:43:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DCE8E034C for ; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 10:43:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 456E02EBB42; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 06:43:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 14 Mar 2009 06:43:51 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: igXEkYoV4EYyArum/FUX1W7ee8WKml2ABu0z1nfRGzvE 1237027430 Received: from [192.168.2.2] (dslb-088-072-148-217.pools.arcor-ip.net [88.72.148.217]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 365EEBA1B for ; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 06:43:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <49BB8A6B.9000904@f_philipp.fastmail.net> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:43:55 +0100 From: Florian Philipp User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090126) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone running a Netbook satisfactorily on Gentoo? References: <49bf44f10903120045u6c373f3fs2a7a46c41c01f69e@mail.gmail.com> <49B946A5.8020906@f_philipp.fastmail.net> <49bf44f10903121213w605c6badp141bf5ca3e1ac278@mail.gmail.com> <49bf44f10903121312y159160afp1361c8768489679a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49bf44f10903121312y159160afp1361c8768489679a@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigC71596DE466BE9AB80E9F1F9" X-Archives-Salt: 33f9f63c-0118-4ec2-9276-e33dba462238 X-Archives-Hash: 06b45dd9d24fce44efce8a6c227db9a0 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigC71596DE466BE9AB80E9F1F9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Grant schrieb: >>>> I've installed and updated Gentoo on my girlfriend's Acer Aspire One= >>>> netbook and it's just so slow. The only things I can think of to >>>> speed it up would be to upgrade the RAM from 1GB (not sure if that's= >>>> possible) and/or swap out the SSD for a HD. Anyone running a netboo= k >>>> not excruciatingly slow? >>>> >>>> - Grant >>>> >>> I've got an Acer One for my father. I don't know the exact type; it i= s >>> the one with the 8GB SSD. >>> >>> I found it quiet usable, installed Gentoo with a minimal KDE3 on it. >>> Compiled with -Os, of course. RAM usage is below 256MB most of the ti= me. >>> The only things I didn't get to work are 3D acceleration and the SSD >>> card slots but I haven't invested much time into it. >>> >>> The slowest part of the system is the SSD. It really slows things don= e >>> when they are loaded for the first time (for example the HTML part of= >>> Konqueror takes 3s to load AFTER Konqueror itself came up). >>> >>> The rest of the system is pretty fast for my expectations.I compiled >>> most things in a chroot on my Celeron notebook (2 or 3 times the spee= d) >>> before moving it over but I really found compiling not _that_ slow. I= ts >>> usable for most regular updates and even kernels and such alike. For >>> larger packages, I mount an NFS share on /var/tmp/portage because I >>> don't want to wear down the SSD. >>> >>> Other tips: >>> Use ext2 FS. You don't want the journalling to cost you even more >>> performance and wear down the SSD. >>> >>> I wouldn't use laptop-mode. You don't want it to bog down the system >>> when it decides to flush its write cache. >>> >>> No syslog, it will only wear down the disk with many small write cycl= es. >>> >>> Use the noop IO scheduler (boot parameter elevator=3Dnoop). There is = no >>> need for a scheduler on an SSD. >>> >>> ArchLinux also recommends deactivating DRI ('Option "DRI" "0"' in >>> xorg.conf) to free up 32MB of memory. >>> >>> Hope this helps. >> Thanks guys, these are the kinds of tips I need. I really want this >> thing to work out so I can switch over to one. Lemme see if I've got >> this: >> >> 1. run xfce4 (already do) >> 2. compile with -Os (I was using -O2) >> 3. use ext2 (I was using ext3) >> 4. don't use laptop-mode (I didn't know it existed) >> 5. no syslog (does this mean don't even emerge a system logger like me= talog?) >> 6. use elevator=3Dnoop at boot >> 7. deactivate DRI >> 8. upgrade RAM to the max >=20 > Which of these still apply when using a conventional HD instead of a > SSD in the netbook? >=20 > - Grant >=20 1 and 2 really depend on your RAM and CPU performance. 2 even on the software itself (for example bzip2 runs faster with -Os on my Celeron, less cache misses, I presume; gzip and lzma do not). 3. can be neglected. 4. laptop-mode should definitely be used. It was designed especially for this purpose. 5. still holds. However, with laptop-mode and certain settings ("options { sync(0) ;stats(1000); };" ) it should not do much harm. 6. should not be used. Any other scheduler should be better than noop for real spinning disks. 7. still holds. 8. always a good idea. Especially with today's chip prices. The only downside is that hibernating with TuxOnIce takes longer. --------------enigC71596DE466BE9AB80E9F1F9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkm7imsACgkQqs4uOUlOuU8tZACfZlHFyvVLl6bxtxBP4bSbNLsY ur0AniEQJoB9fe/3z11pdw6MDicKNKy1 =XSSr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigC71596DE466BE9AB80E9F1F9--