From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LVsYm-000755-FS for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 19:09:49 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C4D58E0504; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 19:09:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com (qw-out-1920.google.com [74.125.92.145]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B07E0504 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 19:09:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so361628qwc.10 for ; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 11:09:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rUlDamCjBj3j8gw89RDGUK421iNFjgvfmXKlfXmPjgs=; b=csE3bnJMml9CFWxawKKi8m+oGddVN4h6mD9TOoRmQpv8vlbWUr2M0HOcm6LSfO+j34 ihGsd+TTIY2imrfpKtJ211x0jEyg32zfVJrTssjf1UCuVVggd5h8fm2dvpMBzVLebnnv CjiIAATdf/sCR5N8l34ciBlgku9BnfLhG1nlg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=V1okc4VtrBxPk86p+tvY3Zw/9tg+1mACRJ0Rf1J4EtI1dW/7ndVaNmY8mW0wuK2sni pkZK2fhVazpmqgbov7fFWijCxVPgnCTEJMoPWuSd/iYuSLVy+g6aXGXlpFyS5ev5YxRr 4sEEZTpwjYBEDrmNtDYSBW0lGtCQeE91VLah4= Received: by 10.214.43.20 with SMTP id q20mr4493645qaq.205.1234033781406; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 11:09:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?4.231.82.167? (dialup-4.231.82.167.Dial1.Houston1.Level3.net [4.231.82.167]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm7912606yxg.33.2009.02.07.11.09.39 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 07 Feb 2009 11:09:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <498DDC70.2000508@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 13:09:36 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19) Gecko/20081227 SeaMonkey/1.1.14 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh? References: <20090206212712.GC9780@marvin.heimnetz.local> <200902062236.11515.dirk.heinrichs@online.de> <873aers0ta.fsf@newsguy.com> <498CBCEB.4030601@wright.org> <498CBFF2.1040307@gmail.com> <82976698fb7d6a369e5ea352640db6f8.squirrel@jesgue.homelinux.org> <498DD4F9.6070200@gmail.com> <914a6b16bcc83b5a60c20f447db790e8.squirrel@jesgue.homelinux.org> In-Reply-To: <914a6b16bcc83b5a60c20f447db790e8.squirrel@jesgue.homelinux.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 7e86da6b-2b70-42fd-81c6-9b5781138343 X-Archives-Hash: 107e6a7dec5861839e5dfdb755f5f37d Jes=FAs Guerrero wrote: > El Sab, 7 de Febrero de 2009, 19:37, Dale escribi=F3: > =20 >> Jes=FAs Guerrero wrote: >> >> =20 >>> El Vie, 6 de Febrero de 2009, 23:55, Dale escribi=F3: >>> =20 > [...] > =20 >>> If you like Mandriva and you install it to use it, then it's >>> ok, but to install it just to use it as a Gentoo installer it's a wei= rd >>> thing to say the least. >>> >>> >>> =20 >> Mandrake was what I switched from. I used Mandrake for about six mont= hs >> when I decided to switch, mostly because the upgrade process sucked. = I >> didn't install Mandrake just to install Gentoo, it was what was alread= y >> installed. >> =20 > > Well, that makes more sense of course. > > =20 >> That said, if I thought I would run into trouble and needed my dial-up >> to work during the install, I would stick in a old drive and install >> Mandrake and install from there. I'm not saying someone else should b= ut >> setting up dial-up on most bootable CDs is not fun. >> =20 > > I know from experience how "funny" winmodems can be. That's why > when I used to use a modem I decided to buy a serial true modem > and crapped out my conexant hsf winmodem. True modems work out > of the box without any problem. All you need is to configure > your dialer. > > > > =20 Mine is a true external serial modem. I make sure it says it works with Linux or someone else tells me it does without the extra drivers. It's just that some don't include wvdial and other dialers at times. I don't know which ones do or don't and since I am on dial-up it is a HUGE deal. It can take me days to download a CD, even a fairly small one.=20 Let's not even discuss a DVD one. :/ I can't download a huge CD just to find out it doesn't have a dialer or one that I can figure out. I am familiar with wvdial and pon/poff but I sort of like Kppp. lol Dale :-) :-)=20