From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LVr0S-0005Oe-NQ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:30:16 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E5F1DE0491; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:29:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.246]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA323E0491 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:29:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b17so1356553rvf.46 for ; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 09:29:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2WBjXZepcKVtn4jsr96lKnnfjlLMHSGGHNZT4Aq/+XI=; b=fCyZF50NQcAeD7TWCG9Yi2JePGigARTcTmMnTRSphZ+qwgEd4OXIwvhNTg1sY/G/xL IQNVt8YtHB9Lko2XCbLOAokMESGbIPhihDEZjoLiklISXpd4Qg1ENsSFNSMtnlSKuRyJ mQQ9ZybqbqKSzZRcP2jSa1nPLgJ3pMszhWv+U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WLnKuuUPY0ZT9MRzzJ7cBVDeg7oy/VqkwnsWM3OP9jw4d6Y3DlUNnkipmqzhFLX1i6 AT3UJFJlEqL3GbT0RX6hbBN1e72mffuslTlf+5Rkmw+YrKr+m7pP8bUtCkPD9N2aCXiW afcbINg/13WA9S914WXTQPM2QnWG1675caAJw= Received: by 10.141.28.2 with SMTP id f2mr2340694rvj.170.1234027777351; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 09:29:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?4.230.105.235? (dialup-4.230.105.235.Dial1.Houston1.Level3.net [4.230.105.235]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g14sm3650089rvb.1.2009.02.07.09.29.22 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 07 Feb 2009 09:29:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <498DC4BF.7090903@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 11:28:31 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19) Gecko/20081227 SeaMonkey/1.1.14 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh? References: <200902042224.55289.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <1233779854.4596.41.camel@silversword> <20090206212712.GC9780@marvin.heimnetz.local> <20090207162000.5a1c2957@krikkit> In-Reply-To: <20090207162000.5a1c2957@krikkit> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 98b769bf-e9da-4410-a07f-5b34be622d15 X-Archives-Hash: 7df4588ab8bed7dc7d83b613eb7868b7 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 15:53:20 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > >> I'm not gonna duplicate what I wrote. Read it again :P >> > > Repeating something does not increase its validity. You stated that > Gentoo needs a GUI installer. The number of people using it without one > shows that is simply not true. > > You want one, that much is clear, but Gentoo does not *need* one. > > > I agree. I got a CD with the installer on it here somewhere. I always boot with the gentoo nox option to disable the thing. By the time that thing loads up I can mount my partitions and edit a file that needs changing and be back out again. I'm not sure that the GUI really makes anything "easier" either. You still have the learning curve to deal with after the CD is gone. Basically, if you use the CD installer, you are still pretty much clueless when it comes to what is under the hood of Gentoo. Without it, you have learned several things that come in handy later on for sure. I'm not totally against it but I don't really see any need for it either. Dale :-) :-)