Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh?

[Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>]

Roy Wright wrote:
> Harry Putnam wrote:
>> Dirk Heinrichs <dirk.heinrichs@online.de> writes:
>>
>>> Am Freitag, 6. Februar 2009 22:27:12 schrieb Sebastian Günther:
>>>
>>>> Did you ever read anything the Windows Installer
>>> What the heck is a "Windows Installer"?
>>>
>>> *SCNR*
>>>
>>
>> Thirty five reboots and several hours
>
>
> Sorry, can't resist as I am currently setting up another gentoo box. 
> A few reboots are kind of expected during a normal gentoo install.
>
> 1) after following directions need to reboot into your new system.
> 2) after updating gcc to the latest and recompiling the system.
> 3) after finding stupid oversight in fstab (replace ROOT,BOOT,SWAP
> with real devices - embarrassed that I missed that one)
> 4) while installing X and find that kernel has nvidia FB enabled.
> 5) while installing kde-meta and find that kernel doesn't have HWMON
> enabled.
>
> Admittedly #3 was oversight and the last two are optional but serve as
> an example that you probably will not get your kernel config right the
> first time.
>
> As for the hours to set up, if you include compile time for X and KDE,
> several hours starts to look really optimistic for a BE-2400, even
> when using distcc to a OC (3GHz) Q9300.  LEt's face it, it's a two day
> job to install gentoo desktop.
>
> The time savings come later, like trying to get HD Audio over HDMI (at
> least that's my hope).  Using this real world example, I originally
> tried kubuntu 8.10 but that didn't have alsa 0.18 (it had 0.17 while
> gentoo ~x86 has 0.19), so had to use two different package management
> systems (dpkg and apt) to get their toolchain installed, then used a
> third package to try to build alsa, which naturally failed.  Instead
> of trying to hack around with their inconsistent system, I said time
> for gentoo...
>
>
> Have fun,
> Roy
>
>

This was one thing I liked about Mandrake, now Mandriva.  Put in the CD,
boot up, set up drives, select ALL the software you can stand, let it
install and then reboot.  What really made it good, when you reboot, ALL
your software is already installed.  Dang that was cool.  It doesn't run
as fast as Gentoo but if you want a Linux install in a hurry, that is
one way to get it.  Then you can use Mandrake to do your Gentoo
install.  chroot works wonderfully.  Run into a problem, just go to a
browser and search the forums etc to get help.

All this beats winders hands down. 

Dale 

:-)  :-)

P. S.  Can anyone tell I hate winders?  Is it obvious?  LOL