From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LVDGC-0002kA-OC for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 23:03:52 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7513FE0427; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 23:03:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com (yx-out-1718.google.com [74.125.44.157]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 532C0E0427 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 23:03:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 4so252783yxp.46 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 15:03:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=SKz9O8ayFX0aheMuEMD0+MZNSozeFSr6mB8aRWuSd7Y=; b=D4yki+aRvXXro7+grGuRf8c23nLvv4MHtDvAo5Lz2q9tyXyPyvhCqHnSiWSXBpvJdQ B6qWvLhLaDutlNWExyXS+FVcG3GKG6+pVdkRxxmsxv9Fj6zZGKUh4pyULvFIlQLA4WUq BM7D9bFpDjh8Ts1rQC5KFV0NthCCN3n2t4PP0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BvkEGIr/zk6m/DHgYGkqVSO0GAb0b4zKE2Rql7lXiMLFghtn8VPQGFSOWkUWC9mwC0 5Onvimi4sZPouizZIJhW9NdfDz/ylGTOZAdElTcuK8Je8LB5zOIMjcQb+8iVvQcewXdI IueBnJvyU6m7wjsL57IXqFxhpdsEwvPUIp4wI= Received: by 10.143.10.15 with SMTP id n15mr565672wfi.268.1233875030548; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 15:03:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.2? (dsl-216-66-226-80.static.linkline.com [216.66.226.80]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 30sm2003672wfa.38.2009.02.05.15.03.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 05 Feb 2009 15:03:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <498B7053.7010708@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 15:03:47 -0800 From: Joshua D Doll User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090102) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh? References: <200902052010.25653.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> <200902052036.05303.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> <498B42D4.3060005@gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b0902051220m35e15s2171a98bba6cf82e@mail.gmail.com> <58965d8a0902051232u6ad8a601ge4b88791ddb36397@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b0902051257v68c80142x18d8902a3aa7f7c1@mail.gmail.com> <498B5DAF.8040000@gmail.com> <498B6ED1.2090507@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <498B6ED1.2090507@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 18fd4c67-1344-4cc9-9921-bda8b667931d X-Archives-Hash: 2eea1618561270ef589bfc55a82a9ce3 Dale wrote: > Joshua D Doll wrote: > >> Mark Knecht wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Paul Hartman >>> wrote: >>> I completely agree. I like the control also. >>> >>> I only took a *very* small exception to Joshua's statement that a 'new >>> user' could read, follow it and understand what it's telling him/her >>> to do and then do it and come out with a working machine. I think it's >>> true if the new user builds exactly the 3 partition example shown in >>> the docs and does *only* the very basic install on a machine that >>> doesn't have Windows, etc. However I think that the docs (not the >>> software!) could be improved to handle things like dual-boot, either >>> another distro or windows, etc. which personally I think 'new users' >>> come up against. Issues about stuff like where to put the MBR, why and >>> why not to do that sort of thing, requires (or is vastly enhanced) if >>> that new user has some knowledge about hard drives, booting, etc. >>> >>> - Mark >>> >>> >>> >>> >> I 100% agree that the docs can and should cover more. Maybe a >> flowchart would be useful? >> >> --Joshua Doll >> >> >> > > I wish the man pages had more examples. Give me a real world example > and I can wrap my poor brain around what it should look like when I do > something. > > Dale > > :-) :-) > > > Man pages are notoriously bad. The gentoo handbook and other official docs are great OTOH. --Joshua Doll