From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LVAzj-00087q-I1 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 20:38:43 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1077DE0729; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 20:38:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com (yw-out-1718.google.com [74.125.46.154]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2DDCE0729 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 20:38:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 5so212572ywm.46 for ; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 12:38:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iCb2pG0dam6DZugdcB/iuNpJfQERbXC/SilXsiHDFyA=; b=vfit6T3TE5SBBJygFgdBu4NlHJm9dWkOhOS/Y5AZP4NEuQvb2NfCtoT/6aI71dRmnL uHM4a6IqijPo3+MQFSrANQgb6HOUqQI4nRJVasEWcbhGiwWUmlkZRg7CHyaGKC2reOIn HXLBg1culLJLhtshyi2SDK06bcaFSRSHWRyW8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=q+wcZW5tWDbi8jaaAbe4HYbcOusaSk0MtKRQ3cHQXSADHmChAkZYGp/csy7LSXJWIE SQcoWmfGAHIrjw6tBYlTNE9oJaAGzjkjFoAxkveFW50Arc80MEeioL8MPXi5JKSyi4Vc f/GQBI0lg2izGx1QLCiO2bpRfX5l/QkYfB5mU= Received: by 10.142.82.13 with SMTP id f13mr484511wfb.301.1233866318113; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 12:38:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.2? (dsl-216-66-226-80.static.linkline.com [216.66.226.80]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm2008102wfg.40.2009.02.05.12.38.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 05 Feb 2009 12:38:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <498B4E4B.4000303@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 12:38:35 -0800 From: Joshua D Doll User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090102) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' -- huh? References: <200902052010.25653.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> <200902052036.05303.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> <498B42D4.3060005@gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b0902051220m35e15s2171a98bba6cf82e@mail.gmail.com> <58965d8a0902051232u6ad8a601ge4b88791ddb36397@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <58965d8a0902051232u6ad8a601ge4b88791ddb36397@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 465391bf-5950-4b00-a2e6-25a1b800c335 X-Archives-Hash: 3d5136549ad7d285afdd1ee7f5780815 Paul Hartman wrote: > On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Joshua D Doll wrote: >> >> >>> I think the Handbook and other Official gentoo docs are well and written. I >>> feel they are so well written and informative that a new user could read and >>> follow what the doc is trying to convey. >>> >>> >>> --Joshua Doll >>> >> I agree. Everything except the grub part. It's well written but it >> requires more knowledge about the actual hardware than the rest of it, >> especially if you do it wrong and have to recover. >> > > I helped my brother install Ubuntu and the lack of control over grub > was frustrating. It just did what it wanted to do without asking > (which was install grub onto the wrong drive with the wrong drive > numbers, because the BIOS boot order did not match Ubuntu's detected > drive order). If that drive had been part of a RAID or had some > important metadata in the boot sector, it could have been a disaster. > > No distro is perfect. Gentoo is perfect for me, though :) > > > I think you mean to say no boot loader is perfect. ;-) --Joshua Doll