From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LUcAZ-0001zy-1s for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 07:27:35 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF155E0502; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:27:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E0CFE0502 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:27:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from OMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id BjLN1b00F0FhH24A2jTY9V; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 07:27:32 +0000 Received: from [68.61.219.200] ([68.61.219.200]) by OMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id BjTW1b0094L0yh88UjTXW2; Wed, 04 Feb 2009 07:27:32 +0000 Message-ID: <49894363.8060401@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 02:27:31 -0500 From: Christopher Walters Organization: AmoxSoft Consulting User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19) Gecko/20081209 Thunderbird/2.0.0.19 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: "optimized for your system" -- huh? References: <200902040858.23559.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200902040858.23559.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 322c46ad-4fd0-4251-a067-42b75161195c X-Archives-Hash: 09348ff225b6b1bf871d7a3afe6d7495 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wednesday 04 February 2009 01:48:34 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> So all in all, I agree. Using Gentoo is nowadays not so much a matter >> of performance optimization but of better control of how to build the > I also get sick and tired of installing postfix on a database machine purely > to send nagios alerts, and watching the distro "helpfully" want to pull in > PostgreSQL, MySQL, LDAP, SASL, Courier and some fancy MTA-switcher thingy. > All because the maintainer enables those features and now I gotta have them. > > No thanks. Rather give me USE so I say what goes on the box. I'd have to agree. The main advantage of Gentoo over binary distributions is that it is a great deal more configurable than any of the major binary distributions. *I* choose, through USE flags, what I want to be pulled in, compiled and merged. I have tried Debian, *BSD, Ubuntu, SuSE, RedHat, Fedora Core, and others. I have found them to be bloated and slower, compared to Gentoo (any time you have to pull in over 500 binary packages to install a single package, there is definite bloat). I will mention that the performance optimizations for Gentoo mainly lie in the kernel configuration (the binary distributions compile just about everything you can imagine into their kernels), and in fine tuning the USE flags, so you you don't pull in anything you neither want nor need, thus limiting bloat. JMHO. Regards, Chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJJiUNdAAoJEIAhA8M9p9DApqoP/0HN0uJHfbjQ63yq0lwubW6k NqLrchH9/xzczxuK2Vj/cat7xtxK4BdDHq92Hur5M+zj2qd3sOIroVxQLNp/K6Qo gy8efsI5HGoWSFLhLdXJp3xuncD5EL0kERFqQ0TSa9ugRVK2b0M2dukMQ08D5lMg 0lBLa5kZKnaYy7QJhAAwRMgHjkr/tIDn2KcPMaC39xwcxWh/iDKa8kVODYsmt6gX yvTuaLJMpUWLhAYAf9tWSo7zE29wNRoBQCE0K8m1A25hf+dZ5+Iw+poM7qAPkssE eD/FDqyl21LfpILQgp8SwqXOKNnVZ8sU/fRihlsixYfA2UDNtscjk6DmNRfq8r5L UrhcU3BFCExu5Yg180Q3G8WcmCs1WgE9tEY95DTyuE7p4KH9fkIi/fUMSSnLdYmP NCO75iq+HTOFImMHdsaYP5l4QJp5ktVJzyxzEZKo3lbkiKODRovj8IQOkzltGgIS rbfhbiyTG0xAbK3IlhzR+tH4ncYyNWOTql+bbXgD35P4awolR/zWVaTSsiCwDsQg XWfoN/J+XoasjJd363PpwHCFe8G+4dM75dUQkri6lgMcRrrVeLCpNdr5ae3AXEMb CHRMZt9OlTaam6VjQGGTDahWoU8dFIy4GYLF2bMaOnU0VrPOu/ENoEjECXm4mjiq OcwGvpSdLX6Mvan0iX9l =vtJv -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----