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From: kashani <kashani-list@badapple.net>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user]  Gentoo's advantage: "optimized for your system" -- huh?
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:20:35 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4988D143.8020804@badapple.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <gmah2q$vl5$1@ger.gmane.org>

Grant Edwards wrote:
> Whenever I see a write-up of Gentoo, it's describe as a system
> similar to BSD "ports" where you build packages from source.
> The main benefit claimed for this approach is that you get
> better performance because all executables are optimized for
> exactly the right instruction set.
> 
> Where did that bit of apocrypha come from, and why is it
> parroted by so many people?

IIRC as late as 2001 almost all distros were primarily built for i386 
there were definite improvements to be had by moving to i686. For things 
that do complicated math like Mysql, openssl, etc there were noticeable 
improvements. Apache likely doesn't benefit at all from anything beyond 
i686, but things like video encoding/decoding do have code that can take 
advantage of mmx, sse, etc.
	Additionally when NTPL hit glibc-2.3 Gentoo was one of the first 
distros that let you move to a NTPL glibc which practically doubled 
Mysql performance in our environment. Not instruction based, but most 
other distros required waiting an additional six months for a release to 
get this.

kashani



  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-02-03 23:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 212+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-03 22:39 [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: "optimized for your system" -- huh? Grant Edwards
2009-02-03 22:56 ` Grant
2009-02-03 23:02 ` Norberto Bensa
2009-02-07  9:00   ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2009-02-03 23:03 ` Saphirus Sage
2009-02-04  0:50   ` Dale
2009-02-03 23:06 ` Paul Hartman
2009-02-03 23:13   ` Constantine D. Kardaris
2009-02-04 10:09   ` [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' " Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-04 12:42     ` Sebastián Magrí
2009-02-04 13:19       ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-04 14:01         ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-04 16:46           ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-04 17:32         ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-04 17:48           ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-04 18:03             ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-04 20:24             ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-04 20:37               ` Sebastián Magrí
2009-02-04 21:57                 ` Paul Hartman
2009-02-05  6:07                 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05  7:28                   ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-05  7:37                     ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-05  7:57                       ` Dale
2009-02-05  8:05                         ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-05  8:26                           ` Dale
2009-02-05 10:59                             ` Momesso Andrea
2009-02-05  8:13                       ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05  8:56                         ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-05 15:18                           ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-05 11:01                         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 11:15                           ` Cocoy Dayao
2009-02-05 13:53                             ` Saphirus Sage
2009-02-05 19:51                               ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-05 20:25                                 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05 21:01                                   ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-05 21:08                                     ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-05 21:29                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-05 11:36                           ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05 12:01                             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 13:48                               ` Saphirus Sage
2009-02-05 14:04                                 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 19:00                               ` Mike Edenfield
2009-02-05 19:10                                 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 19:31                                   ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05 19:36                                     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 19:43                                       ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05 19:45                                         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 20:18                                           ` Mark Knecht
2009-02-05 20:34                                             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 19:47                                         ` Saphirus Sage
2009-02-05 20:16                                           ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05 19:49                                         ` Joshua D Doll
2009-02-05 20:20                                           ` Mark Knecht
2009-02-05 20:32                                             ` Paul Hartman
2009-02-05 20:38                                               ` Joshua D Doll
2009-02-05 22:16                                                 ` Paul Hartman
2009-02-05 22:30                                                   ` Joshua D Doll
2009-02-05 20:57                                               ` Mark Knecht
2009-02-05 21:44                                                 ` Joshua D Doll
2009-02-05 22:57                                                   ` Dale
2009-02-05 23:03                                                     ` Joshua D Doll
2009-02-05 23:03                                                       ` Saphirus Sage
2009-02-05 23:12                                                         ` Joshua D Doll
2009-02-06  0:54                                                           ` Dale
2009-02-06  0:58                                                             ` Saphirus Sage
2009-02-06  2:45                                                           ` Stroller
2009-02-06  5:48                                                             ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-06  3:03                                                         ` Stroller
2009-02-06  3:08                                                           ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-06  4:40                                                             ` Stroller
2009-02-06  5:03                                                               ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-06  6:57                                                                 ` Stroller
2009-02-06  7:17                                                                   ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-06  8:55                                                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-06 12:36                                                                       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-06 12:58                                                                         ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-06 13:04                                                                           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-06 13:29                                                                           ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-06 13:49                                                                             ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-06 14:27                                                                               ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-06 16:06                                                                                 ` Saphirus Sage
2009-02-06 16:41                                                                                   ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-06 16:40                                                                                     ` Saphirus Sage
2009-02-06 16:51                                                                                       ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-06 21:00                                                                                 ` Harry Putnam
2009-02-06 21:08                                                                                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-06 21:30                                                                                     ` Harry Putnam
2009-02-06 21:37                                                                                       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-06 23:28                                                                                         ` Harry Putnam
2009-02-07  7:53                                                                                           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-07 18:55                                                                                             ` Harry Putnam
2009-02-07  9:57                                                                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-07 18:13                                                                                   ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-07 18:40                                                                                     ` Harry Putnam
2009-02-07 19:08                                                                                       ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-08  0:42                                                                                         ` Harry Putnam
2009-02-08  0:57                                                                                           ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-08 13:32                                                                                             ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-08 14:41                                                                                               ` Graham Murray
2009-02-08 14:59                                                                                                 ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-06 14:19                                                                             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-06 15:36                                                                             ` Stroller
2009-02-06 14:25                                                                         ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-06 14:25                                                                       ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-07  9:52                                                                         ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-07 11:48                                                                           ` Saphirus Sage
2009-02-07 12:11                                                                             ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-06  5:46                                                               ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-06  8:57                                                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-06  9:11                                                                   ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-06  9:23                                                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-05 22:53                                             ` Dale
2009-02-06  7:41                                           ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05 22:10                                         ` momesso.andrea
2009-02-05 20:03                                 ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-05 20:12                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-13 10:04                                     ` Joost Roeleveld
2009-02-06  9:02                                 ` Christopher Walters
2009-02-06 12:41                                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-06 19:58                                     ` Christopher Walters
2009-02-06 20:03                                       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 12:21                             ` Dirk Uys
2009-02-05 15:23                               ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-05 15:32                                 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 19:56                                 ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-05 12:45                             ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-05 19:44                             ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-05  7:48                     ` Dale
2009-02-05  8:11                     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05  8:50                       ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-06 21:27                       ` Sebastian Günther
2009-02-06 21:36                         ` Dirk Heinrichs
2009-02-06 21:38                           ` Harry Putnam
2009-02-06 21:48                             ` Mark Knecht
2009-02-06 22:42                             ` Roy Wright
2009-02-06 22:55                               ` Dale
2009-02-07  7:17                                 ` Sebastian Günther
2009-02-07  7:43                                   ` Dale
2009-02-07  9:47                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-07 18:27                                 ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-07 18:37                                   ` Dale
2009-02-07 19:02                                     ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-07 19:09                                       ` Dale
2009-02-07 19:23                                         ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-07 13:53                         ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-07 16:20                           ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-07 17:23                             ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-07 17:29                               ` James Homuth
2009-02-07 19:43                                 ` Sebastian Günther
2009-02-07 21:42                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-08  8:54                                     ` Sebastian Günther
2009-02-08 15:40                                       ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-07 19:38                               ` Sebastian Günther
2009-02-07 17:28                             ` Dale
2009-02-05  7:41                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05  8:29                     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05  8:46                       ` Joshua Murphy
2009-02-05 11:04                       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 20:36                         ` kashani
2009-02-03 23:08 ` [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: "optimized for your system" " Yannick Mortier
2009-02-03 23:10 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-03 23:20 ` kashani [this message]
2009-02-03 23:48 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-04  6:58   ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-04  7:27     ` Christopher Walters
2009-02-04  7:39       ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-04 10:32         ` [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' " Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-04 15:25           ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-04 15:41             ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-04 16:19               ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-04 16:48                 ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-04 17:54                 ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-04 17:38             ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-04 13:03     ` [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: "optimized for your system" " Momesso Andrea
2009-02-04 13:15       ` Sebastián Magrí
2009-02-04 13:31         ` Momesso Andrea
2009-02-04 13:56           ` Sebastián Magrí
2009-02-04 15:39             ` [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: "optimized for yoursystem" " Prado, Renato (R.P.)
2009-02-04 15:45               ` Yannick Mortier
     [not found]               ` <2F1868733128B647A5383526F5DF600401A91E25@VNAMBV03.vistcorp.ad.visteon .com>
2009-02-04 17:43                 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for yoursystem' " Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-04 17:55                   ` Prado, Renato (R.P.)
2009-02-04 13:59           ` [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: "optimized for your system" " Alan McKinnon
2009-02-04 16:55             ` Momesso Andrea
2009-02-04 20:40               ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-04 14:06           ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-04 16:33       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 10:12   ` Steven Lembark
2009-02-05 10:22     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05 12:48       ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-05 10:47     ` Dirk Uys
2009-02-05 15:26     ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-05 15:52       ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-04  3:38 ` James
2009-02-04  6:17   ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-04  6:22     ` Paul Hartman
2009-02-04 15:23       ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-04 16:07       ` James
2009-02-04 16:19         ` Hazen Valliant-Saunders
2009-02-04 16:52           ` James
2009-02-04 16:20         ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-04 19:27         ` Paul Hartman
2009-02-04 10:26     ` [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' " Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-04  9:58 ` [gentoo-user] " Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-04 10:08   ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-04 10:34     ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-04 18:43 ` [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: "optimized for your system" " pk
2009-02-05 10:08 ` Steven Lembark
2009-02-05 14:43 ` Stroller
2009-02-05 18:18   ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05 18:50     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 18:52     ` Mark Knecht
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2009-02-04 15:21 [gentoo-user] " David W Noon

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