From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LQyL1-00072v-1g for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:19:19 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A6CEFE0701; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:19:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qy0-f20.google.com (mail-qy0-f20.google.com [209.85.221.20]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79724E0701 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:19:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk13 with SMTP id 13so8588816qyk.10 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:19:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=E+8LnUzlBELO2xl+8uJsk/In+MtA1u8+yMl/KMPz2MY=; b=ihPnFW83u0nPiJy6rquYjA5KCdi2cCWsOeS5pSA83wUtKAxz71N9q6RJbCz8Msm2An YzLRbWsNEB7FILpakPGQAJP45sJ2kHl/LzYgHduTUOeEG+tZwG1ZL+O4UP/iN6an4ppW Pr9I+Z0pVH7wC5uYeK6QzFJ3oXsAc6MajjS0Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bOxT1DgExeUnFEQRjJqDtjQJJ95kqfSnfisEdiPfrrBbrr7of03L8cdYbsE7f4JpGQ FIEafqV/lvdrow2maXq1c+yxkjS3dftRjiugpwVgkWXSTkXZWzOS7c1Cnkt/msxvN/Ym yRhsxmkZ7vdKi1ou8OdIJvWlWOhZjAm5yMJpw= Received: by 10.214.79.10 with SMTP id c10mr2985666qab.73.1232864357166; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:19:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?4.230.105.103? (dialup-4.230.105.103.Dial1.Houston1.Level3.net [4.230.105.103]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm9910424ywi.56.2009.01.24.22.19.14 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:19:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <497C0460.6000502@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:19:12 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19) Gecko/20081227 SeaMonkey/1.1.14 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: No /dev entries in recent stage3 snapshots? References: <20090121155655.466edba0@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> <200901230555.10400.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> <20090124232911.660b597b@krikkit> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 4a6c7a7f-f995-43ef-a831-d59adda7da8b X-Archives-Hash: 7c89b8ae302c8d890314ac85be64fa7e Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2009-01-25, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> On 2009-01-24, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 05:55:10 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I have a server running that hets that null/console missing >>>> message every boot - and it does not hurt it at any way. >>>> >>> A missing /dev/console stops the boot process here. It boots >>> without /dev/null, but only after udev spews out a load of >>> messages. >>> >> Ah, not to worry: I've been assured in the gentoo forum thread >> that the problems we see when the root filesystem doesn't have >> proper /dev/null and /dev/console nodes aren't really >> happening: >> >> Neither /dev/null nor /dev/console are needed at boot-time, >> therefore their absence doesn't cause problems. >> > > For posterity's sake, one of the problems that wasn't happening > was that my root partition always had to be recovered at > startup -- it apparently wasn't getting properly unmounted > during shutdown. After re-creating the root partition's /dev > tree, that was cured. > > This leads one to suspect that the block device node for the > root partition (/dev/hda3 in my case) is also required along > with /dev/null and /dev/console for proper start-up and > shut-down. > > Well just to confirm that this is not happening, I ran into the same thing a good while back when I was transferring my system from one disk to another. I didn't copy /dev, /sys, /proc and something else. I had to reboot from the CD and copy all the /dev/stuff so I could boot. At the time I didn't know what I "didn't" have to have. Note there is a bit of sarcasm there. It appears that they are needed but some just "think" we don't. My rig, Abit NF7 mobo with a AMD 2500+ rig using udev like I guess everybody else is. Weird. Dale :-) :-)