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* [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin
@ 2009-01-14  2:19 Michael P. Soulier
  2009-01-14  2:27 ` Paul Hartman
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From: Michael P. Soulier @ 2009-01-14  2:19 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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So, I noticed this on an emerge

!!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled
!!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:

www-client/mozilla-firefox:0

  ('ebuild', '/', 'www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.19', 'merge') pulled in by
    =www-client/mozilla-firefox-2* required by ('installed', '/',
'net-www/mplayerplug-in-3.50', 'nomerge')
    (and 1 more)

  ('installed', '/', 'www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.0.5', 'nomerge') pulled in
by
    www-client/mozilla-firefox required by world

So, I interpret this as the mplayer plugin not being available for firefox
3.0, which is why it's pulling in the 2.0 stream. So, my best solution is
probably just to uninstall the mplayer plugin, is that right?

It seems to work fine in firefox 3.0. If I want to run the risk and keep it,
is masking out firefox 2.0 the way to go?

Thanks,
Mike
-- 
Michael P. Soulier <msoulier@digitaltorque.ca>
"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a
touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction."
--Albert Einstein

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* Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin
  2009-01-14  2:19 [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin Michael P. Soulier
@ 2009-01-14  2:27 ` Paul Hartman
  2009-01-14 19:02   ` Michael P. Soulier
  2009-01-14  2:29 ` Nick Cunningham
                   ` (3 subsequent siblings)
  4 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Paul Hartman @ 2009-01-14  2:27 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Michael P. Soulier
<msoulier@digitaltorque.ca> wrote:
> So, I noticed this on an emerge
>
> !!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled
> !!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:
>
> www-client/mozilla-firefox:0
>
>  ('ebuild', '/', 'www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.19', 'merge') pulled in by
>    =www-client/mozilla-firefox-2* required by ('installed', '/',
> 'net-www/mplayerplug-in-3.50', 'nomerge')
>    (and 1 more)
>
>  ('installed', '/', 'www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.0.5', 'nomerge') pulled in
> by
>    www-client/mozilla-firefox required by world
>
> So, I interpret this as the mplayer plugin not being available for firefox
> 3.0, which is why it's pulling in the 2.0 stream. So, my best solution is
> probably just to uninstall the mplayer plugin, is that right?
>
> It seems to work fine in firefox 3.0. If I want to run the risk and keep it,
> is masking out firefox 2.0 the way to go?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike

After getting fed up with emerge/compile issues with mplayerplug-in i
switched to net-www/gecko-mediaplayer and it seems to work okay.

Paul



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* Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin
  2009-01-14  2:19 [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin Michael P. Soulier
  2009-01-14  2:27 ` Paul Hartman
@ 2009-01-14  2:29 ` Nick Cunningham
  2009-01-14 10:00 ` Neil Bothwick
                   ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  4 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Nick Cunningham @ 2009-01-14  2:29 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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2009/1/14 Michael P. Soulier <msoulier@digitaltorque.ca>

> So, I noticed this on an emerge
>
> !!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been
> pulled
> !!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:
>
> www-client/mozilla-firefox:0
>
>  ('ebuild', '/', 'www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.19', 'merge') pulled in
> by
>    =www-client/mozilla-firefox-2* required by ('installed', '/',
> 'net-www/mplayerplug-in-3.50', 'nomerge')
>    (and 1 more)
>
>  ('installed', '/', 'www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.0.5', 'nomerge') pulled
> in
> by
>    www-client/mozilla-firefox required by world
>
> So, I interpret this as the mplayer plugin not being available for firefox
> 3.0, which is why it's pulling in the 2.0 stream. So, my best solution is
> probably just to uninstall the mplayer plugin, is that right?
>
> It seems to work fine in firefox 3.0. If I want to run the risk and keep
> it,
> is masking out firefox 2.0 the way to go?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
> --
> Michael P. Soulier <msoulier@digitaltorque.ca>
> "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a
> touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction."
> --Albert Einstein
>

Perhaps the better solution is to move to the new gecko-mediaplayer which is
built for firefox 3 and is the successor to mplayer-plugin.

- Nick

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* Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin
  2009-01-14  2:19 [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin Michael P. Soulier
  2009-01-14  2:27 ` Paul Hartman
  2009-01-14  2:29 ` Nick Cunningham
@ 2009-01-14 10:00 ` Neil Bothwick
  2009-01-14 13:57   ` Allan Gottlieb
  2009-01-14 10:01 ` KH
  2009-01-14 18:51 ` Aaron Clark
  4 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Neil Bothwick @ 2009-01-14 10:00 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:19:04 -0500, Michael P. Soulier wrote:

> So, I interpret this as the mplayer plugin not being available for
> firefox 3.0, which is why it's pulling in the 2.0 stream. So, my best
> solution is probably just to uninstall the mplayer plugin, is that
> right?

It's because you're trying to emerge it with the firefox USE flag. Remove
that from make.conf and use xulrunner instead.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Forget the Joneses...I can't keep up with The Simpsons.

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* Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin
  2009-01-14  2:19 [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin Michael P. Soulier
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2009-01-14 10:00 ` Neil Bothwick
@ 2009-01-14 10:01 ` KH
  2009-01-14 18:51 ` Aaron Clark
  4 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: KH @ 2009-01-14 10:01 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Michael P. Soulier schrieb:
> So, I noticed this on an emerge
>
> !!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled
> !!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:
>
> www-client/mozilla-firefox:0
>
>   ('ebuild', '/', 'www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.19', 'merge') pulled in by
>     =www-client/mozilla-firefox-2* required by ('installed', '/',
> 'net-www/mplayerplug-in-3.50', 'nomerge')
>     (and 1 more)
>
>   ('installed', '/', 'www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.0.5', 'nomerge') pulled in
> by
>     www-client/mozilla-firefox required by world
>
> So, I interpret this as the mplayer plugin not being available for firefox
> 3.0, which is why it's pulling in the 2.0 stream. So, my best solution is
> probably just to uninstall the mplayer plugin, is that right?
>
> It seems to work fine in firefox 3.0. If I want to run the risk and keep it,
> is masking out firefox 2.0 the way to go?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>   
Hi,

since I am using net-www/netscape-flash-10.0.21.1_alpha ~amd64 I did not
have the need to install mplayerplug-in anymore. I would try the
mplayerplug-in-3.55.
Have a look at xulrunner. It might be causing the downgread problem.

kh



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* Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin
  2009-01-14 10:00 ` Neil Bothwick
@ 2009-01-14 13:57   ` Allan Gottlieb
  2009-01-14 14:37     ` Neil Bothwick
  2009-01-14 15:02     ` Willie Wong
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Allan Gottlieb @ 2009-01-14 13:57 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

At Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:00:41 +0000 Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:19:04 -0500, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
>
>> So, I interpret this as the mplayer plugin not being available for
>> firefox 3.0, which is why it's pulling in the 2.0 stream. So, my best
>> solution is probably just to uninstall the mplayer plugin, is that
>> right?
>
> It's because you're trying to emerge it with the firefox USE flag. Remove
> that from make.conf and use xulrunner instead.

I have both USE flags and have *noticed* any problems.  However, I
prefer to avoid rather than fix problems.  Can you point me at
documentation for when one should have firefox and/or xulrunner USE
flags?

Running:    stable amd64 and stable x86.
Installed:  firefox 3.0.5 and (xulrunner 1.8.1.19 and 1.9.0.5)

thanks
allan



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* Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin
  2009-01-14 13:57   ` Allan Gottlieb
@ 2009-01-14 14:37     ` Neil Bothwick
  2009-01-14 15:40       ` Allan Gottlieb
  2009-01-14 15:02     ` Willie Wong
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Neil Bothwick @ 2009-01-14 14:37 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 08:57:40 -0500, Allan Gottlieb wrote:

> > It's because you're trying to emerge it with the firefox USE flag.
> > Remove that from make.conf and use xulrunner instead.  
> 
> I have both USE flags and have *noticed* any problems.  However, I
> prefer to avoid rather than fix problems.  Can you point me at
> documentation for when one should have firefox and/or xulrunner USE
> flags?

You have noticed or you have not noticed? Either way, your original post
was one such problem. If you search the list archives for xulrunner you'll
find several threads dealing with this, including one in the last day or
so.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Top Oxymorons Number 5: Twelve-ounce pound cake

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* Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin
  2009-01-14 13:57   ` Allan Gottlieb
  2009-01-14 14:37     ` Neil Bothwick
@ 2009-01-14 15:02     ` Willie Wong
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Willie Wong @ 2009-01-14 15:02 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 08:57:40AM -0500, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
> I have both USE flags and have *noticed* any problems.  However, I
> prefer to avoid rather than fix problems.  Can you point me at
> documentation for when one should have firefox and/or xulrunner USE
> flags?
> 

C.f. this thread
 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/49430

I think the devs agreed that xulrunner > firefox > seamonkey

(reading the actual USE flag descriptions, which states:

firefox: Build against Firefox instead of Seamonkey/Mozilla
seamonkey: Adds support for the Seamonkey web-browser
xulrunner: Build native browser integration against xulrunner 
   instead of firefox or seamonkey

I agree the descriptions are already fairly clear.)

HTH, 

W
-- 
Willie W. Wong                                      wwong@math.princeton.edu
408 Fine Hall,  Department of Mathematics,  Princeton University,  Princeton
A mathematician's reputation rests on the number of bad proofs he has given.



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* Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin
  2009-01-14 14:37     ` Neil Bothwick
@ 2009-01-14 15:40       ` Allan Gottlieb
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Allan Gottlieb @ 2009-01-14 15:40 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

At Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:37:21 +0000 Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 08:57:40 -0500, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
>
>> > It's because you're trying to emerge it with the firefox USE flag.
>> > Remove that from make.conf and use xulrunner instead.  
>> 
>> I have both USE flags and have *noticed* any problems.  However, I
>> prefer to avoid rather than fix problems.  Can you point me at
>> documentation for when one should have firefox and/or xulrunner USE
>> flags?
>
> You have noticed or you have not noticed?

Gack.  Sorry.  I meant "not *noticed*".

> Either way, your original post was one such problem. If you search the
> list archives for xulrunner you'll find several threads dealing with
> this, including one in the last day or so.

Thank you and also willie who pointed out
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/49430

allan



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* Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin
  2009-01-14  2:19 [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin Michael P. Soulier
                   ` (3 preceding siblings ...)
  2009-01-14 10:01 ` KH
@ 2009-01-14 18:51 ` Aaron Clark
  4 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Aaron Clark @ 2009-01-14 18:51 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> 
> So, I interpret this as the mplayer plugin not being available for firefox
> 3.0, which is why it's pulling in the 2.0 stream. So, my best solution is
> probably just to uninstall the mplayer plugin, is that right?
> 
> It seems to work fine in firefox 3.0. If I want to run the risk and keep it,
> is masking out firefox 2.0 the way to go?
> 

I ended up keywording mplayerplug-in ~x86 in 
/etc/portage/package.keywords to unmask the latest version that's in 
portage.  This removed the block on Firefox 3.0 so I've left it at that 
for now.  I may move on to gecko-mediaplayer in the future, but that box 
just doesn't do a lot of online media so it wasn't worth the effort at 
this juncture to switch.

Aaron



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* Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin
  2009-01-14  2:27 ` Paul Hartman
@ 2009-01-14 19:02   ` Michael P. Soulier
  2009-01-14 19:09     ` Alan McKinnon
  2009-01-14 19:45     ` Nick Cunningham
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Michael P. Soulier @ 2009-01-14 19:02 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On 13/01/09 Paul Hartman said:

> After getting fed up with emerge/compile issues with mplayerplug-in i
> switched to net-www/gecko-mediaplayer and it seems to work okay.

Hmm. I would but

msoulier@anton:~$ emerge --pretend net-www/gecko-mediaplayer

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!

!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "net-www/gecko-mediaplayer" have been
masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
- net-www/gecko-mediaplayer-0.6.3 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)

it's masked out on my system. Is it unstable on x86? Use at your own risk?

Mike
-- 
Michael P. Soulier <msoulier@digitaltorque.ca>
"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a
touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction."
--Albert Einstein

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* Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin
  2009-01-14 19:02   ` Michael P. Soulier
@ 2009-01-14 19:09     ` Alan McKinnon
  2009-01-14 19:45     ` Nick Cunningham
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Alan McKinnon @ 2009-01-14 19:09 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Wednesday 14 January 2009 21:02:20 Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> On 13/01/09 Paul Hartman said:
> > After getting fed up with emerge/compile issues with mplayerplug-in i
> > switched to net-www/gecko-mediaplayer and it seems to work okay.
>
> Hmm. I would but
>
> msoulier@anton:~$ emerge --pretend net-www/gecko-mediaplayer
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies... done!
>
> !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "net-www/gecko-mediaplayer" have been
> masked.
> !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your
> request: - net-www/gecko-mediaplayer-0.6.3 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)
>
> it's masked out on my system. Is it unstable on x86? Use at your own risk?

It's ~arch for x86 and amd64

It means the usual:
new package, still in testing, not yet moved to stable.
It is most unlikely to break things, but like all packages does go through the 
process. If you want to try it, put it in your packages.keywords

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



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* Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin
  2009-01-14 19:02   ` Michael P. Soulier
  2009-01-14 19:09     ` Alan McKinnon
@ 2009-01-14 19:45     ` Nick Cunningham
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Nick Cunningham @ 2009-01-14 19:45 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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2009/1/14 Michael P. Soulier <msoulier@digitaltorque.ca>

> On 13/01/09 Paul Hartman said:
>
> > After getting fed up with emerge/compile issues with mplayerplug-in i
> > switched to net-www/gecko-mediaplayer and it seems to work okay.
>
> Hmm. I would but
>
> msoulier@anton:~$ emerge --pretend net-www/gecko-mediaplayer
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies... done!
>
> !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "net-www/gecko-mediaplayer" have been
> masked.
> !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your
> request:
> - net-www/gecko-mediaplayer-0.6.3 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)
>
> it's masked out on my system. Is it unstable on x86? Use at your own risk?
>
> Mike
> --
> Michael P. Soulier <msoulier@digitaltorque.ca>
> "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a
> touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction."
> --Albert Einstein
>

Im currently running live versions of both gecko-mediaplayer and
gnome-mplayer and largely running without any problems. Do note that the
versions in portage are quite old, 0.9.3 is the latest release and you may
have problems with sandbox violations using the 0.9.3 ebuilds attached to
bugzilla [1], however if your feeling brave the live -9999 ebuilds do work
quite well.

- Nick

[1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=232036

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* [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin
@ 2009-11-22  9:28 Mick
  2009-11-22 10:43 ` Dale
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Mick @ 2009-11-22  9:28 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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Hi All,

I was using mplayerplug-in until it was substituted in the tree for gnome-
mplayer.  I was happier with mplayerplug-in because I could also access the 
stream/file in /tmp/ and save it, resize it, replay it, etc. 

With gnome-mplayer all I get is a socket in /tmp which I can't access directly 
- mplayer won't play it.  The embedded video is always at maximum size filling 
up the browser window and at poor quality videos the picture deteriorates.  On 
top of it I find gnome-mplayer is a bit clunky with regards to its controls (I 
can't just drag the cursor to watch a previous point in the video as smoothly 
as I could with mplayerplug-in).  Is there a better alternative, more akin to 
the mplayerplug-in?
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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* Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin
  2009-11-22  9:28 Mick
@ 2009-11-22 10:43 ` Dale
  2009-11-22 10:57   ` Mick
  2009-11-23 19:28   ` Maxim Wexler
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2009-11-22 10:43 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Mick wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I was using mplayerplug-in until it was substituted in the tree for gnome-
> mplayer.  I was happier with mplayerplug-in because I could also access the 
> stream/file in /tmp/ and save it, resize it, replay it, etc. 
>
> With gnome-mplayer all I get is a socket in /tmp which I can't access directly 
> - mplayer won't play it.  The embedded video is always at maximum size filling 
> up the browser window and at poor quality videos the picture deteriorates.  On 
> top of it I find gnome-mplayer is a bit clunky with regards to its controls (I 
> can't just drag the cursor to watch a previous point in the video as smoothly 
> as I could with mplayerplug-in).  Is there a better alternative, more akin to 
> the mplayerplug-in?
>   

If you have Firefox installed, you can use 'download helper' to grab 
those videos really easy.  It works on youtube and other sites really well.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



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* Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin
  2009-11-22 10:43 ` Dale
@ 2009-11-22 10:57   ` Mick
  2009-11-22 12:47     ` Dale
  2009-11-23 19:28   ` Maxim Wexler
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Mick @ 2009-11-22 10:57 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On Sunday 22 November 2009 10:43:01 Dale wrote:
> Mick wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I was using mplayerplug-in until it was substituted in the tree for
> > gnome- mplayer.  I was happier with mplayerplug-in because I could also
> > access the stream/file in /tmp/ and save it, resize it, replay it, etc.
> >
> > With gnome-mplayer all I get is a socket in /tmp which I can't access
> > directly - mplayer won't play it.  The embedded video is always at
> > maximum size filling up the browser window and at poor quality videos the
> > picture deteriorates.  On top of it I find gnome-mplayer is a bit clunky
> > with regards to its controls (I can't just drag the cursor to watch a
> > previous point in the video as smoothly as I could with mplayerplug-in). 
> > Is there a better alternative, more akin to the mplayerplug-in?
> 
> If you have Firefox installed, you can use 'download helper' to grab
> those videos really easy.  It works on youtube and other sites really well.

Thanks Dale, but I have no problem with flash embedded videos - they don't use 
the gnome-mplayer.
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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* Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin
  2009-11-22 10:57   ` Mick
@ 2009-11-22 12:47     ` Dale
  2009-11-22 13:48       ` Mick
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2009-11-22 12:47 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Mick wrote:
> On Sunday 22 November 2009 10:43:01 Dale wrote:
>   
>> Mick wrote:
>>     
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I was using mplayerplug-in until it was substituted in the tree for
>>> gnome- mplayer.  I was happier with mplayerplug-in because I could also
>>> access the stream/file in /tmp/ and save it, resize it, replay it, etc.
>>>
>>> With gnome-mplayer all I get is a socket in /tmp which I can't access
>>> directly - mplayer won't play it.  The embedded video is always at
>>> maximum size filling up the browser window and at poor quality videos the
>>> picture deteriorates.  On top of it I find gnome-mplayer is a bit clunky
>>> with regards to its controls (I can't just drag the cursor to watch a
>>> previous point in the video as smoothly as I could with mplayerplug-in). 
>>> Is there a better alternative, more akin to the mplayerplug-in?
>>>       
>> If you have Firefox installed, you can use 'download helper' to grab
>> those videos really easy.  It works on youtube and other sites really well.
>>     
>
> Thanks Dale, but I have no problem with flash embedded videos - they don't use 
> the gnome-mplayer.
>   

There may be a misunderstanding on this.  With the download helper, you 
go to a site that has a video you want, instead of copying it from /tmp 
or where ever it is stored, you click on a button and save it where ever 
you want to save it.  If you don't like the file format that it is in, 
it will convert it for you too. 

Just as a example, I go to youtube and find a neat Jeff Dunham video.  I 
click for it to start playing the video as usual.  Once it starts to 
play, I click on the little download button and then tell it to save it 
to my directory for videos.  From that point on, I can play the video 
using mplayer or what ever.  I currently use smplayer myself.

I also noticed recently, it works with flash videos too.  I don't know 
if it did this all the time or if it just started but it is nice 
especially since some videos get taken down sometimes.  If it is on my 
system, I have it even if it gets removed later.

The misunderstanding may be on my part.  Maybe I don't quite get what 
you are doing. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 





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* Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin
  2009-11-22 12:47     ` Dale
@ 2009-11-22 13:48       ` Mick
  2009-11-22 14:06         ` Dale
  2009-11-22 17:27         ` Daniel Pielmeier
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Mick @ 2009-11-22 13:48 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On Sunday 22 November 2009 12:47:57 Dale wrote:
> Mick wrote:
> > On Sunday 22 November 2009 10:43:01 Dale wrote:
> >> Mick wrote:
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> I was using mplayerplug-in until it was substituted in the tree for
> >>> gnome- mplayer.  I was happier with mplayerplug-in because I could also
> >>> access the stream/file in /tmp/ and save it, resize it, replay it, etc.
> >>>
> >>> With gnome-mplayer all I get is a socket in /tmp which I can't access
> >>> directly - mplayer won't play it.  The embedded video is always at
> >>> maximum size filling up the browser window and at poor quality videos
> >>> the picture deteriorates.  On top of it I find gnome-mplayer is a bit
> >>> clunky with regards to its controls (I can't just drag the cursor to
> >>> watch a previous point in the video as smoothly as I could with
> >>> mplayerplug-in). Is there a better alternative, more akin to the
> >>> mplayerplug-in?
> >>
> >> If you have Firefox installed, you can use 'download helper' to grab
> >> those videos really easy.  It works on youtube and other sites really
> >> well.
> >
> > Thanks Dale, but I have no problem with flash embedded videos - they
> > don't use the gnome-mplayer.

I think this is a mistake on my part:  gnome-mplayer seems to be a dependency 
of gecko-mediaplayer.

> There may be a misunderstanding on this.  With the download helper, you
> go to a site that has a video you want, instead of copying it from /tmp
> or where ever it is stored, you click on a button and save it where ever
> you want to save it.  If you don't like the file format that it is in,
> it will convert it for you too.

Sure, but from what I figured this FF addon is only good for Flash embedded 
videos.  I assume (because I can't download it right now) that it won't work 
with e.g.:

http://www.amd.com/us-
en/assets/content_type/DownloadableAssets/T64X2_animation.wmv

> Just as a example, I go to youtube and find a neat Jeff Dunham video.  

YouTube and the likes use Adobe Flash to stream content.

> The misunderstanding may be on my part.  Maybe I don't quite get what
> you are doing.

I don't really like the gnome-mplayer interface which is used by the gecko-
mediaplayer plugin.  I was looking for alternative plugins, but I suspect that 
there aren't any.

Anyway, not a major issue.
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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* Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin
  2009-11-22 13:48       ` Mick
@ 2009-11-22 14:06         ` Dale
  2009-11-22 16:38           ` Mick
  2009-11-22 17:27         ` Daniel Pielmeier
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2009-11-22 14:06 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Mick wrote:
> On Sunday 22 November 2009 12:47:57 Dale wrote:
>   
>> Mick wrote:
>>     
>>> On Sunday 22 November 2009 10:43:01 Dale wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Mick wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> I was using mplayerplug-in until it was substituted in the tree for
>>>>> gnome- mplayer.  I was happier with mplayerplug-in because I could also
>>>>> access the stream/file in /tmp/ and save it, resize it, replay it, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> With gnome-mplayer all I get is a socket in /tmp which I can't access
>>>>> directly - mplayer won't play it.  The embedded video is always at
>>>>> maximum size filling up the browser window and at poor quality videos
>>>>> the picture deteriorates.  On top of it I find gnome-mplayer is a bit
>>>>> clunky with regards to its controls (I can't just drag the cursor to
>>>>> watch a previous point in the video as smoothly as I could with
>>>>> mplayerplug-in). Is there a better alternative, more akin to the
>>>>> mplayerplug-in?
>>>>>           
>>>> If you have Firefox installed, you can use 'download helper' to grab
>>>> those videos really easy.  It works on youtube and other sites really
>>>> well.
>>>>         
>>> Thanks Dale, but I have no problem with flash embedded videos - they
>>> don't use the gnome-mplayer.
>>>       
>
> I think this is a mistake on my part:  gnome-mplayer seems to be a dependency 
> of gecko-mediaplayer.
>
>   
>> There may be a misunderstanding on this.  With the download helper, you
>> go to a site that has a video you want, instead of copying it from /tmp
>> or where ever it is stored, you click on a button and save it where ever
>> you want to save it.  If you don't like the file format that it is in,
>> it will convert it for you too.
>>     
>
> Sure, but from what I figured this FF addon is only good for Flash embedded 
> videos.  I assume (because I can't download it right now) that it won't work 
> with e.g.:
>
> http://www.amd.com/us-
> en/assets/content_type/DownloadableAssets/T64X2_animation.wmv
>   

I went to that link and downloaded the video with no problem at all.   
Once it started to playing, I hit the download button and saved it to my 
desktop.  It plays fine with splayer which uses mplayer as the back 
end.  It even converted it to a mp4 for me.

Dale

:-)  :-)



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* Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin
  2009-11-22 14:06         ` Dale
@ 2009-11-22 16:38           ` Mick
  2009-11-22 19:35             ` Dale
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Mick @ 2009-11-22 16:38 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On Sunday 22 November 2009 14:06:57 Dale wrote:
> Mick wrote:
> > On Sunday 22 November 2009 12:47:57 Dale wrote:
> >> Mick wrote:
> >>> On Sunday 22 November 2009 10:43:01 Dale wrote:
> >>>> Mick wrote:
> >>>>> Hi All,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I was using mplayerplug-in until it was substituted in the tree for
> >>>>> gnome- mplayer.  I was happier with mplayerplug-in because I could
> >>>>> also access the stream/file in /tmp/ and save it, resize it, replay
> >>>>> it, etc.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> With gnome-mplayer all I get is a socket in /tmp which I can't access
> >>>>> directly - mplayer won't play it.  The embedded video is always at
> >>>>> maximum size filling up the browser window and at poor quality videos
> >>>>> the picture deteriorates.  On top of it I find gnome-mplayer is a bit
> >>>>> clunky with regards to its controls (I can't just drag the cursor to
> >>>>> watch a previous point in the video as smoothly as I could with
> >>>>> mplayerplug-in). Is there a better alternative, more akin to the
> >>>>> mplayerplug-in?
> >>>>
> >>>> If you have Firefox installed, you can use 'download helper' to grab
> >>>> those videos really easy.  It works on youtube and other sites really
> >>>> well.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks Dale, but I have no problem with flash embedded videos - they
> >>> don't use the gnome-mplayer.
> >
> > I think this is a mistake on my part:  gnome-mplayer seems to be a
> > dependency of gecko-mediaplayer.
> >
> >> There may be a misunderstanding on this.  With the download helper, you
> >> go to a site that has a video you want, instead of copying it from /tmp
> >> or where ever it is stored, you click on a button and save it where ever
> >> you want to save it.  If you don't like the file format that it is in,
> >> it will convert it for you too.
> >
> > Sure, but from what I figured this FF addon is only good for Flash
> > embedded videos.  I assume (because I can't download it right now) that
> > it won't work with e.g.:
> >
> > http://www.amd.com/us-
> > en/assets/content_type/DownloadableAssets/T64X2_animation.wmv
> 
> I went to that link and downloaded the video with no problem at all.
> Once it started to playing, I hit the download button and saved it to my
> desktop.  It plays fine with splayer which uses mplayer as the back
> end.  It even converted it to a mp4 for me.

Hmm ... sounds promising.  Tried to download it but there was a problem - will 
try again later.

Thanks.
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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* Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin
  2009-11-22 13:48       ` Mick
  2009-11-22 14:06         ` Dale
@ 2009-11-22 17:27         ` Daniel Pielmeier
  2009-11-22 19:02           ` Mick
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Pielmeier @ 2009-11-22 17:27 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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Mick schrieb am 22.11.2009 14:48:
> http://www.amd.com/us-
> en/assets/content_type/DownloadableAssets/T64X2_animation.wmv
> 

Works fine with gecko-mediaplayer and download-helper.

-- 
Daniel Pielmeier


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* Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin
  2009-11-22 17:27         ` Daniel Pielmeier
@ 2009-11-22 19:02           ` Mick
  2009-11-22 20:43             ` Daniel Pielmeier
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Mick @ 2009-11-22 19:02 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On Sunday 22 November 2009 17:27:26 Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
> Mick schrieb am 22.11.2009 14:48:
> > http://www.amd.com/us-
> > en/assets/content_type/DownloadableAssets/T64X2_animation.wmv
> 
> Works fine with gecko-mediaplayer and download-helper.

Yes, thank you.  I've installed it now and it looks neat.

Any luck with Apple Trailers?  It doesn't ask me where to save the download.
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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* Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin
  2009-11-22 16:38           ` Mick
@ 2009-11-22 19:35             ` Dale
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2009-11-22 19:35 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Mick wrote:
> On Sunday 22 November 2009 14:06:57 Dale wrote:
>   
>> I went to that link and downloaded the video with no problem at all.
>> Once it started to playing, I hit the download button and saved it to my
>> desktop.  It plays fine with splayer which uses mplayer as the back
>> end.  It even converted it to a mp4 for me.
>>     
>
> Hmm ... sounds promising.  Tried to download it but there was a problem - will 
> try again later.
>
> Thanks.
>   

Just to clarify a little, you install Firefox and then install the add 
on from here:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3006

Maybe reading that link will help more than me typing.  ;-)  So far, I 
have been able to capture any video from any site that I wanted to. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 



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* Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin
  2009-11-22 19:02           ` Mick
@ 2009-11-22 20:43             ` Daniel Pielmeier
  2009-11-23 13:18               ` Mick
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Pielmeier @ 2009-11-22 20:43 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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Mick schrieb am 22.11.2009 20:02:
> On Sunday 22 November 2009 17:27:26 Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
>> Mick schrieb am 22.11.2009 14:48:
>>> http://www.amd.com/us-
>>> en/assets/content_type/DownloadableAssets/T64X2_animation.wmv
>> Works fine with gecko-mediaplayer and download-helper.
> 
> Yes, thank you.  I've installed it now and it looks neat.
> 
> Any luck with Apple Trailers?  It doesn't ask me where to save the download.

I am not able to play the Apple Trailers by clicking at the link to the
movie (maybe a problem with the java script popup). When I open the link
in a new window I can watch/download with gecko-mediaplayer like normal.
Download-helper seems to have problems though.

-- 
Daniel Pielmeier


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* Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin
  2009-11-22 20:43             ` Daniel Pielmeier
@ 2009-11-23 13:18               ` Mick
  2009-11-23 14:22                 ` Helmut Jarausch
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Mick @ 2009-11-23 13:18 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

2009/11/22 Daniel Pielmeier <billie@gentoo.org>:
> Mick schrieb am 22.11.2009 20:02:
>> On Sunday 22 November 2009 17:27:26 Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
>>> Mick schrieb am 22.11.2009 14:48:
>>>> http://www.amd.com/us-
>>>> en/assets/content_type/DownloadableAssets/T64X2_animation.wmv
>>> Works fine with gecko-mediaplayer and download-helper.
>>
>> Yes, thank you.  I've installed it now and it looks neat.
>>
>> Any luck with Apple Trailers?  It doesn't ask me where to save the download.
>
> I am not able to play the Apple Trailers by clicking at the link to the
> movie (maybe a problem with the java script popup). When I open the link
> in a new window I can watch/download with gecko-mediaplayer like normal.

Hmm ... I can't.  FF fires up gxine for some reason which barfs - it
seems to be the default player.  Where do I change that?

> Download-helper seems to have problems though.

Here download-helper fetches a "medialink" file which contains just this:

ID_EXIT=EOF

-- 
Regards,
Mick



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* Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin
  2009-11-23 13:18               ` Mick
@ 2009-11-23 14:22                 ` Helmut Jarausch
  2009-11-23 16:10                   ` Mick
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Helmut Jarausch @ 2009-11-23 14:22 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On 23 Nov, Mick wrote:
> 2009/11/22 Daniel Pielmeier <billie@gentoo.org>:
>> Mick schrieb am 22.11.2009 20:02:
>>> On Sunday 22 November 2009 17:27:26 Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
>>>> Mick schrieb am 22.11.2009 14:48:
>>>>> http://www.amd.com/us-
>>>>> en/assets/content_type/DownloadableAssets/T64X2_animation.wmv
>>>> Works fine with gecko-mediaplayer and download-helper.
>>>
>>> Yes, thank you.  I've installed it now and it looks neat.
>>>
>>> Any luck with Apple Trailers?  It doesn't ask me where to save the download.
>>
>> I am not able to play the Apple Trailers by clicking at the link to the
>> movie (maybe a problem with the java script popup). When I open the link
>> in a new window I can watch/download with gecko-mediaplayer like normal.
> 
> Hmm ... I can't.  FF fires up gxine for some reason which barfs - it
> seems to be the default player.  Where do I change that?
> 

See
http://kb.mozillazine.org/File_types_and_download_actions

Helmut.

-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany



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* Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin
  2009-11-23 14:22                 ` Helmut Jarausch
@ 2009-11-23 16:10                   ` Mick
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Mick @ 2009-11-23 16:10 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

2009/11/23 Helmut Jarausch <jarausch@igpm.rwth-aachen.de>:
> On 23 Nov, Mick wrote:
>> 2009/11/22 Daniel Pielmeier <billie@gentoo.org>:

>>> I am not able to play the Apple Trailers by clicking at the link to the
>>> movie (maybe a problem with the java script popup). When I open the link
>>> in a new window I can watch/download with gecko-mediaplayer like normal.
>>
>> Hmm ... I can't.  FF fires up gxine for some reason which barfs - it
>> seems to be the default player.  Where do I change that?
>>
>
> See
> http://kb.mozillazine.org/File_types_and_download_actions

Thanks Helmut,

Unfortunately it didn't help.  I reset the download actions to their
defaults, but gxine still tries to run the video URL and fails (no
codex).  What do you have under:

~/.firefox/plugins/

or

~/.mozilla/plugins/

This is mine:

$ ls -la .mozilla/plugins/
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 michael users 112 Jan  8  2006 .
drwxr-xr-x 6 michael users 176 Dec 27  2008 ..
lrwxrwxrwx 1 michael users  29 Mar 26  2006 gxineplugin.so ->
/usr/lib/gxine/gxineplugin.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 michael users  44 Mar 26  2006 libnpsoplugin.so ->
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libnpsoplugin.so

When I disable the 'gxine starter plugin' under Tools/Addons/Plugins
then all I get is a blank page.

In the page about:plugins, gxineplugin is above gecko-mediaplayer-qt
and I suspect this is why it is being picked up first.  What's it like
in yours?
-- 
Regards,
Mick



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* Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin
  2009-11-22 10:43 ` Dale
  2009-11-22 10:57   ` Mick
@ 2009-11-23 19:28   ` Maxim Wexler
  2009-11-23 20:55     ` Dale
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Maxim Wexler @ 2009-11-23 19:28 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

> If you have Firefox installed, you can use 'download helper' to grab
> those videos really easy.  It works on youtube and other sites really well.

I'm using it but can only download from a link to youtube in another
web page or google, for example. Shouldn't there be a button on
Youtube itself, once the 'downloiad helper' is installed that lets you
download from the actual Youtube site? I've looked through
Tools->Download Helper->Preferences without seeing any option for it.

Maxim



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* Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin
  2009-11-23 19:28   ` Maxim Wexler
@ 2009-11-23 20:55     ` Dale
  2009-11-24  2:48       ` Maxim Wexler
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 30+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2009-11-23 20:55 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Maxim Wexler wrote:
>> If you have Firefox installed, you can use 'download helper' to grab
>> those videos really easy.  It works on youtube and other sites really well.
>>     
>
> I'm using it but can only download from a link to youtube in another
> web page or google, for example. Shouldn't there be a button on
> Youtube itself, once the 'downloiad helper' is installed that lets you
> download from the actual Youtube site? I've looked through
> Tools->Download Helper->Preferences without seeing any option for it.
>
> Maxim
>
>
>   

Mine is in the toolbar by default.  It is just to the left of the 
location bar and looks like three balls rotating.  I'm not sure if they 
rotate all the time or not but I know it does when in the middle of a 
download.  If you put your little mouse pointer on it, it shows it is 
the download helper tool.  When something is on the page that it knows 
is a video, a little option for a drop down appears so that you can 
select what to download.  I know youtube sometimes has different 
versions of a video, mostly different by quality.  With that you can 
select which quality you want.  It is also handy when you have more than 
one video on a page and only want one of them.

That help you find it?  I found it by wondering what the little moving 
balls where that wasn't there before I installed the little add ons. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 



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* Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin
  2009-11-23 20:55     ` Dale
@ 2009-11-24  2:48       ` Maxim Wexler
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 30+ messages in thread
From: Maxim Wexler @ 2009-11-24  2:48 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Got it. I clicked on the tri-color balls on the lower rt and it just
gave me a list of sites where downloads may be found. The balls also
appear above and to the left of the video window where the movie is
supposed to appear. When I clicked on it I got the save-as window. But
then I had to stop the browser and migrate away from the page on
account of my tiny bandwidth. But it works, very kewl :)

On 11/23/09, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> Maxim Wexler wrote:
>>> If you have Firefox installed, you can use 'download helper' to grab
>>> those videos really easy.  It works on youtube and other sites really
>>> well.
>>>
>>
>> I'm using it but can only download from a link to youtube in another
>> web page or google, for example. Shouldn't there be a button on
>> Youtube itself, once the 'downloiad helper' is installed that lets you
>> download from the actual Youtube site? I've looked through
>> Tools->Download Helper->Preferences without seeing any option for it.
>>
>> Maxim
>>
>>
>>
>
> Mine is in the toolbar by default.  It is just to the left of the
> location bar and looks like three balls rotating.  I'm not sure if they
> rotate all the time or not but I know it does when in the middle of a
> download.  If you put your little mouse pointer on it, it shows it is
> the download helper tool.  When something is on the page that it knows
> is a video, a little option for a drop down appears so that you can
> select what to download.  I know youtube sometimes has different
> versions of a video, mostly different by quality.  With that you can
> select which quality you want.  It is also handy when you have more than
> one video on a page and only want one of them.
>
> That help you find it?  I found it by wondering what the little moving
> balls where that wasn't there before I installed the little add ons.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)
>
>



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