From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LMqPX-0000JZ-Ev for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:02:55 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2BF8EE04FC; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:02:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.173]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAEA7E04FC for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:02:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 29so190808wff.10 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:02:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=d7CyhL32tC5YxSde7PYLwVp1/WUINtn5h/tgRcxa7jI=; b=P715b6Jso3M9nrlG7FcDmLxvvOHh9D9oetcQCKg1v9g7b+/ZixJUpJJT1ZTDUOWtEw SpsK0Wx5iM8XPYlG/l4BC/lIV5VEsnTov5cPtiEQ20ETH3mhbGM+qwoIARUfdfFGVfDX ysOi5OB+TJRDarV0xaJpZ9GX3whsSgsLJmQxA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EkcNWh56iR0Ma58VhKOZwa0tSjYbdKvrYdSNXV3aCaQhKXFWsFPT4O2U3G5DWw/Ba0 IlXPtrn0WGrpPSogOsRHTqSdFzvWSz+R7fVABeKLYpuYH6ePeJU91GDhywXJuza6h9DD y25mJAgQBZ9Bxt3Ic4ADfTk4Z7NTRN9+MHYd0= Received: by 10.142.14.20 with SMTP id 20mr13024217wfn.227.1231880573496; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:02:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?4.231.91.114? (dialup-4.231.91.114.Dial1.Houston1.Level3.net [4.231.91.114]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 27sm1542544wff.51.2009.01.13.13.02.50 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:02:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <496D0178.1040704@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:02:48 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19) Gecko/20081227 SeaMonkey/1.1.14 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 'emerge -e world' question References: <58965d8a0901130744p3d724207i9b911c9c3559d61d@mail.gmail.com> <496CF96A.6060208@gmail.com> <58965d8a0901131237q6ea02f05gae8862b22d44454c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <58965d8a0901131237q6ea02f05gae8862b22d44454c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 94d95f38-e0ae-4745-827c-3bde3126f7fb X-Archives-Hash: 1b691525752defa21ed2320687031af4 Paul Hartman wrote: > On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Dale wrote: > >> Paul Hartman wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I normally do "emerge -uDvN @world" (or in other words "emerge >>> --update --deep --verbose --newuse @world"). Right now, it tells me >>> this: >>> >>> Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 kB >>> >>> I also --depclean on a regular basis to remove any unneeded packages. >>> Right now, it tells me this: >>> >>> No packages selected for removal by depclean >>> >>> Based on those two commands, I'm led to believe I have a fully updated >>> system. So, then, I am curious why when I do "emerge -e @world" it >>> tells me this: >>> >>> Total: 1432 packages (9 upgrades, 2 downgrades, 14 new, 1407 >>> reinstalls, 1 interactive), Size of downloads: 76,235 kB >>> >>> How is that possible? Where do those upgrades, downgrades and new >>> packages come from? What is missing from my traditional "-uDvN" >>> command that is causing me to miss some of those updates? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Paul >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Read a few of the other posts, make sure that @world is including the >> system set. Either just use world with no @ or do a @system and @world. >> >> --depclean should have mentioned that when you ran it too. It does here >> but you may be on a different version than I am. >> > > Thanks for that, I didn't realize there was a difference between > "@world" and "world". I've looked at the sets.conf file but honestly > it is over my head. My "world_sets" file does include @system, though, > so hopefully there was nothing wrong in that regard. > > Thanks, > Paul > > > I think most installs have the system set included in world for now but that may change in the future. As I have posted on -dev, I see the serious need for the sets but I wish to continue using the plain world and it update all the packages that need updating. I think the plain world will be around for a while. There were others that agreed with that thought. As I pointed out, if it has a @ in front, you are in the sets section. If not, then it is the old way. Dale :-) :-)