From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L4YDU-0005ol-0L for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:58:52 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BB78AE059D; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:58:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com (rv-out-0708.google.com [209.85.198.240]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8436EE059D for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:58:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b17so2283377rvf.46 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 01:58:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fUioFEMG+7+3XVeeWQg/e1LrvwnB5T7YxodKmxs4vGc=; b=BR2E9nWs0MtxAe10KVBg50l59zjPIDdvHaFM7h1HhXV8SxwzeVz4u2AuzuBE+/Pqw2 mFJm1A3QlroCINfpLlSfUFuptjyOP93JgkLiiFAyPjbFVgh/PZpufRP7tv1C+4F7PRoQ HSVEjMjcKUhk0DhcrWu4fv44vPGb+pKI4JfjQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lf5FY2qlJIBlUKQKCRkT1xlRg3xSUWHQuuEJdNDllR/ZyJdLyqWJynB7ikdOMNrL2R W8u1g7Y0ehah4vNY5pUBzEdCJfOY7NJDN8KpEbm3MqS3Y3R8ejsVgmWV6sEX1jBDSpE8 rCvGx9ayeTNGS2jFjaVNUjuHRBNlpsGM78NXc= Received: by 10.140.203.9 with SMTP id a9mr1778035rvg.252.1227520728363; Mon, 24 Nov 2008 01:58:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?4.230.117.254? (dialup-4.230.117.254.Dial1.Houston1.Level3.net [4.230.117.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l31sm12210310rvb.2.2008.11.24.01.58.44 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 24 Nov 2008 01:58:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <492A7AD1.2010108@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 03:58:41 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Masking for Educational Purposes only ? References: <6142e6140811240141ua9ff438w42107836e92397b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6142e6140811240141ua9ff438w42107836e92397b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 5cb83a56-46b2-43c7-aeb9-89e44d3c2b5d X-Archives-Hash: 47d94aec32ba300488037a9625da25e2 Daniel Pielmeier wrote: > > I will try to explain this a bit from what I know from mailing-lists and IRC. > > First there are no problems with portage-2.2. It has been masked > because some features are not ready and thus are blocking > stabilisation. As a conclusion portage-2.1.6 has been branched out > without this features to get a stable version into the tree which has > support for eapi 2 and all other features that are ready. > > To get more testing to 2.1.6 version it has been decided to mask 2.2 > with the hope more people are using 2.1.6 to get remaining bugs fixed > and to get it stable quickly. Of course some users which are for > instance using kde-4 or other stuff which will need features that are > only in 2.2 will have to unmask portage 2.2 to get the system running. > > This is one thing that annoys me a bit of gentoo. There is way to much > information that is not passed to the users, a short announcement > which explains the situation on the homepage, forum or even the > gentoo-user mailing list and everything would be fine. Some things > important for users are often discussed only on IRC or the gentoo-dev > mailing list so they do not reach most of the users. Examples are this > portage masking and the perl package moves to name a few things that > happened recently. > > Of course, there is the Gentoo monthly newsletter. Supposed to be monthly anyway. I haven't seen one in a while so it may be going quarterly this time. ;-) I do wish they had or would use a announce mailing list to inform people of changes, big ones anyway, that are coming or in the process of happening. At least that way we would know what is about to get borked or worse and require some huge emerges to get back on track. Anyway . . . . Dale :-) :-)