From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-73746-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1JDQVi-00027t-KW for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:29:51 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C3737E08EA; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:29:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.nexicom.net (smtp1.nexicom.net [216.168.96.23]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE93E0859 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:29:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.lockie.ca (dyn-dsl-mb-216-168-124-177.nexicom.net [216.168.124.177]) by smtp.nexicom.net (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m0BKbSxg005139 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:37:28 -0500 Received: by mail.lockie.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 09522CAC09; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:29:13 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on lockie2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.2.3 Received: from webmail.lockie.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lockie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99E22CABF9 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:29:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from 24.215.0.20 (SquirrelMail authenticated user bjlockie) by webmail.lockie.ca with HTTP; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:29:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <49178.24.215.0.20.1200083351.squirrel@webmail.lockie.ca> In-Reply-To: <200801112200.49683.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> References: <4787C7C9.20907@sbcglobal.net> <200801112200.49683.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:29:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo LiveUSB From: bjlockie@lockie.ca To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: bb725ee4-3417-48e6-8881-5d2caf5f3c82 X-Archives-Hash: 01b310672edd1e57cc874b80176a9982 > On Friday 11 January 2008, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: >> 2nd question: I must be dense on this one so someone help me out. >> Since a USB stick is seen as a hard drive, why can't I do a standard >> install to it? Is it because until lately they haven't been large >> enough? I'm thinking of using an 8GB one. > > There's a few reasons: > > 1. The memory used on those devices has a limited life - about 100,000 > writes for the good ones and maybe 10,000 for the bad ones. With a > standard install, frequent writes are the norm (think cache and other > similar things). This usually ends up at the same spot on the disk, > meaning your new install will last about a month if you are lucky. > There are ways around this, for instance how a LiveCD does things. > > 2. Booting off it is a pain. You need drivers for the entire USB stack > at boot time, which usually means a ginormous initrd. > > 3. Size, which you mentioned > > -- > Alan McKinnon > alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com > -- > gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list > > Does desktop RAM get constantly refreshed while powered and it doesn't need to keep any data when not powered? Is that the difference? --=20 gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list