From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 17:27:28 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48ea62a7-962e-feb5-218b-b08d73b645ab@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ugphe3$cj8$1@ciao.gmane.io>
Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2023-10-18, Michael <confabulate@kintzios.com> wrote:
>>> The protective MBR and the BIOS boot partition are two different,
>>> unrelated things. The BIOS boot partition is a real partition (usually
>>> 1-2MB in size) that's present in the GPT parition table. It's used by
>>> Grub as a place to store its files.
>> Yes, this is needed on GPT disks when installed on BIOS MoBos.
> There is a way to install Grub on GPT disks without it, but it takes
> extra work and isn't worth it. You have to lock certain files in place
> under /boot/grub so that block-lists can be embedded in sector 0.
>
> All of the disk label utilities I've seen recently will, by default,
> leave a sizable empty space between the primary GPT table and the
> start of the first partition (which typically starts at a 1MB offset
> from the start of the disk). I've never understood why Grub won't use
> that space they way it will use the empty space between an MBR and the
> first partition.
>
>>> It must be the first partition, and it doesn't have a real
>>> filesystem (grub uses some sort of private filesystem):
>> I'm not sure it uses any filesystem. I understood it uses a raw sector jump
>> from the MBR to the GPT partition type 0xEE.
> I've read a couple vague but differing descriptions of it. One
> description specifically referred to "files" (plural) and some sort of
> grub-private-internal filesystem. However, it could be that it's
> nothing but a single "file" starting at block 0 in that partition.
> Whatever it is, it seems to be "opaque" in that Grub puts stuff in
> that partition, Grub later uses that stuff, and nobody else needs to
> know or care what it is or how it's organized. I haven't looked
> through the Grub source code to try to see inside the black box...
>
> --
> Grant
>
I used cgdisk and GPT for my disk even tho it is small, only 300GBs or
so, mostly out of habit. The grub install failed and I did a search. I
found this and it worked.
grub-install fails with "grub-install: warning: this GPT partition label
contains no BIOS Boot Partition; embedding won't be possible." Using
parted command.
# parted /dev/sda
# set 1 boot off
# set 1 bios_grub on
# q
# then install grub. This happens on drives where GPT is used instead
of MBR.
This may be something you want to make note of. I guess it changes the
way grub sees it or something. Anyway, it worked fine after that so may
be worth making a note of in case one of you ever needs it.
Dale
:-) :-)
P. S. My off topic Ubuntu thread is covering a lot of strange things.
LOL
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-10-18 22:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-16 7:51 [gentoo-user] OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help Dale
2023-10-16 8:01 ` Wols Lists
2023-10-16 8:28 ` Dale
2023-10-16 9:15 ` Tsukasa Mcp_Reznor
2023-10-16 10:24 ` Michael
2023-10-16 16:56 ` Dale
2023-10-16 18:17 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-16 18:26 ` Mark Knecht
2023-10-17 0:34 ` Dale
2023-10-17 7:23 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-17 16:41 ` Dale
2023-10-17 17:50 ` Mark Knecht
2023-10-17 18:07 ` Dale
2023-10-17 18:24 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2023-10-17 18:54 ` Dale
2023-10-17 19:44 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-18 2:50 ` Dale
2023-10-18 7:36 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-18 9:23 ` Michael
2023-10-18 13:57 ` Grant Edwards
2023-10-18 17:49 ` Dale
2023-10-18 18:40 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-18 23:24 ` Dale
2023-10-19 11:54 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-19 16:24 ` Dale
2023-10-18 18:38 ` Michael
2023-10-18 21:07 ` Grant Edwards
2023-10-18 22:27 ` Dale [this message]
2023-10-18 23:06 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-19 4:49 ` [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help: boot loader info Dale
2023-10-19 8:40 ` Michael
2023-10-19 14:45 ` Dale
2023-10-19 15:38 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-19 19:47 ` Dale
2023-10-19 11:55 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-19 11:59 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-19 15:09 ` Peter Humphrey
2023-10-29 11:23 ` Wols Lists
2023-10-19 16:43 ` Laurence Perkins
2023-10-19 19:38 ` Grant Edwards
2023-10-19 11:47 ` [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help Peter Humphrey
2023-10-18 17:45 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-18 18:41 ` Michael
2023-10-17 19:35 ` [gentoo-user] " Mark Knecht
2023-10-17 21:46 ` Dale
2023-10-17 22:22 ` Mark Knecht
2023-10-17 22:31 ` Dale
2023-10-18 3:15 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2023-10-18 7:39 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-18 14:25 ` Rich Freeman
2023-10-18 14:40 ` Grant Edwards
2023-10-18 17:54 ` Dale
2023-10-17 19:47 ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2023-10-17 21:52 ` Dale
2023-10-18 8:23 ` Dale
2023-10-18 11:56 ` [OT] " Peter Humphrey
2023-10-18 18:54 ` Dale
2023-10-16 18:15 ` Neil Bothwick
2023-10-16 14:23 ` Mark Knecht
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=48ea62a7-962e-feb5-218b-b08d73b645ab@gmail.com \
--to=rdalek1967@gmail.com \
--cc=gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox