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* [gentoo-user] generating HFS+ isos
@ 2008-09-19  6:13 Andrey Vul
  2008-09-19 10:01 ` Joerg Schilling
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Andrey Vul @ 2008-09-19  6:13 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Unfortunately, genisoimage (current version)'s -hfs options generates
old-HFS instead of new-HFS directory table, leading to truncation. Is
there a way, (such as libdmg)
to create HFS+ (OS 9 / OS X) images without using Toast?
-- 
Andrey Vul



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* Re: [gentoo-user] generating HFS+ isos
  2008-09-19  6:13 [gentoo-user] generating HFS+ isos Andrey Vul
@ 2008-09-19 10:01 ` Joerg Schilling
  2008-09-19 11:42   ` Sebastian Günther
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Joerg Schilling @ 2008-09-19 10:01 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

"Andrey Vul" <andrey.vul@gmail.com> wrote:

> Unfortunately, genisoimage (current version)'s -hfs options generates
> old-HFS instead of new-HFS directory table, leading to truncation. Is
> there a way, (such as libdmg)
> to create HFS+ (OS 9 / OS X) images without using Toast?

Genisoimage is extremely outdated - it is more than 3 years old with no 
updated/enhancements.

HFS support in mkisofs is deprecated, use Apple MAC UDF extensions instead.
The UDF extensions are implemented in mkisofs since more than a year.

Get a recent cdrtools from:

ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/

Note that hfs support in mkisofs will be dropped after the next "stable" release
which is expected to happen soon.

Jörg

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       js@cs.tu-berlin.de                (uni)  
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* Re: [gentoo-user] generating HFS+ isos
  2008-09-19 10:01 ` Joerg Schilling
@ 2008-09-19 11:42   ` Sebastian Günther
  2008-09-19 16:40     ` Joerg Schilling
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Sebastian Günther @ 2008-09-19 11:42 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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* Joerg Schilling (Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de) [19.09.08 12:02]:
> 
> Get a recent cdrtools from:
> 
> ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/
> 

No need for that: 

# emerge cdrtools 

should be sufficient...

> 
> Jörg
> 

Jörg, we know you are on the crusade against cdrkit, but please remember 
that cdrtools are in portage. It should be enough to tip the users into 
using it.

Sebastian

-- 
 " Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. "      Karl Marx

 SEB@STI@N GÜNTHER         mailto:samson@guenther-roetgen.de

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* Re: [gentoo-user] generating HFS+ isos
  2008-09-19 11:42   ` Sebastian Günther
@ 2008-09-19 16:40     ` Joerg Schilling
  2008-09-19 17:46       ` [gentoo-user] It's the Mind! Matthias Bethke
  2008-09-20  6:42       ` [gentoo-user] generating HFS+ isos Sebastian Günther
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Joerg Schilling @ 2008-09-19 16:40 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Sebastian Günther <samson@guenther-roetgen.de> wrote:

> Jörg, we know you are on the crusade against cdrkit, but please remember 
> that cdrtools are in portage. It should be enough to tip the users into 
> using it.

It seems that you missunderstand things. The people behind cdrkit are on a 
crusade against free software. 


The fact that many people by default use the Debian fork that is outdated, 
buggy, violates GPL and Copyright makes it obvios that people still need the
bit more background information I added to my mail.

Jörg

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 EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin
       js@cs.tu-berlin.de                (uni)  
       schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de     (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/
 URL:  http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily



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* [gentoo-user] It's the Mind!
  2008-09-19 16:40     ` Joerg Schilling
@ 2008-09-19 17:46       ` Matthias Bethke
  2008-09-20  6:42       ` [gentoo-user] generating HFS+ isos Sebastian Günther
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Matthias Bethke @ 2008-09-19 17:46 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 06:40:58PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> It seems that you missunderstand things. The people behind cdrkit are on a 
> crusade against free software. 

Good evening!
Tonight on "It's The Mind" we'll examine the phenomenon of déjà-vu.

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* Re: [gentoo-user] generating HFS+ isos
  2008-09-19 16:40     ` Joerg Schilling
  2008-09-19 17:46       ` [gentoo-user] It's the Mind! Matthias Bethke
@ 2008-09-20  6:42       ` Sebastian Günther
  2008-09-20 16:00         ` Joerg Schilling
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Sebastian Günther @ 2008-09-20  6:42 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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* Joerg Schilling (Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de) [19.09.08 18:42]:
> 
> It seems that you missunderstand things. The people behind cdrkit are on a 
> crusade against free software. 
> 
> 
> The fact that many people by default use the Debian fork that is outdated, 
> buggy, violates GPL and Copyright makes it obvios that people still need the
> bit more background information I added to my mail.
> 

We are on the gentoo *user* list: Most people here can't change any 
default. If you want to change that default: goto gentoo-dev and 
complain there.

But still this is gentoo: so everyone has the choice to use whatever 
software is in portage.

But I just said, that you should point the people to how they can use 
portage to install your solution.


Sebastian "Why the heck I'm helping you? I won't use any of your 
software" Günther

> Jörg
> 

BTW: You still did not proove your accuses about the copyright 
violations. And if you have proove, please submit it to 
gpl-violations.org.

And do link or quote them on your infamous website.

-- 
 " Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. "      Karl Marx

 SEB@STI@N GÜNTHER         mailto:samson@guenther-roetgen.de

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* Re: [gentoo-user] generating HFS+ isos
  2008-09-20  6:42       ` [gentoo-user] generating HFS+ isos Sebastian Günther
@ 2008-09-20 16:00         ` Joerg Schilling
  2008-09-20 16:07           ` Dale
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Joerg Schilling @ 2008-09-20 16:00 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Sebastian Günther <samson@guenther-roetgen.de> wrote:

> BTW: You still did not proove your accuses about the copyright 
> violations. And if you have proove, please submit it to 

It would help if you did not try to bend facts.

I recommend you to read my website for the related information.

Jörg

-- 
 EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin
       js@cs.tu-berlin.de                (uni)  
       schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de     (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/
 URL:  http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily



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* Re: [gentoo-user] generating HFS+ isos
  2008-09-20 16:00         ` Joerg Schilling
@ 2008-09-20 16:07           ` Dale
  2008-09-20 16:13             ` Joerg Schilling
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2008-09-20 16:07 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Sebastian Günther <samson@guenther-roetgen.de> wrote:
>
>   
>> BTW: You still did not proove your accuses about the copyright 
>> violations. And if you have proove, please submit it to 
>>     
>
> It would help if you did not try to bend facts.
>
> I recommend you to read my website for the related information.
>
> Jörg
>
>   


Sebastian Günther wrote:
>
> BTW: You still did not proove your accuses about the copyright 
> violations. And if you have proove, please submit it to 
> gpl-violations.org.
>
> And do link or quote them on your infamous website.
>
>   
According to his previous post, he has already looked at your website.  
I quoted it above in case it slipped by.  ;-)

Dale

:-)  :-) 



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* Re: [gentoo-user] generating HFS+ isos
  2008-09-20 16:07           ` Dale
@ 2008-09-20 16:13             ` Joerg Schilling
  2008-09-20 16:24               ` Dale
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Joerg Schilling @ 2008-09-20 16:13 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> According to his previous post, he has already looked at your website.  

Well, then he would be knowingly spreading lies. Is this what you intend to 
tell me?

Jörg

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       js@cs.tu-berlin.de                (uni)  
       schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de     (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/
 URL:  http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily



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* Re: [gentoo-user] generating HFS+ isos
  2008-09-20 16:13             ` Joerg Schilling
@ 2008-09-20 16:24               ` Dale
  2008-09-20 17:07                 ` Alan McKinnon
  2008-09-20 17:21                 ` Joerg Schilling
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2008-09-20 16:24 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> According to his previous post, he has already looked at your website.  
>>     
>
> Well, then he would be knowingly spreading lies. Is this what you intend to 
> tell me?
>
> Jörg
>
>   

Well, no.  I just posted that he already looked at your website and 
didn't see it.  I guess you can make of it whatever you want tho.  It 
*seems* like you are putting words in my mouth anyway so . . . .

Dale

:-)  :-) 



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* Re: [gentoo-user] generating HFS+ isos
  2008-09-20 16:24               ` Dale
@ 2008-09-20 17:07                 ` Alan McKinnon
  2008-09-20 17:21                 ` Joerg Schilling
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Alan McKinnon @ 2008-09-20 17:07 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Saturday 20 September 2008 18:24:04 Dale wrote:
> Joerg Schilling wrote:
> > Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> According to his previous post, he has already looked at your website.
> >
> > Well, then he would be knowingly spreading lies. Is this what you intend
> > to tell me?
> >
> > Jörg
>
> Well, no.  I just posted that he already looked at your website and
> didn't see it.  I guess you can make of it whatever you want tho.  It
> *seems* like you are putting words in my mouth anyway so . . . .

If there is a god up there, he is going to stop this thread dead in it's 
tracks RIGHT NOW.

Dale, did you miss the last one?

Joerg, we went through this very very recently. It was not pleasant but you 
were given ample platform to air your views, and you used that opportunity. 
Most of us known how you feel, those who don't can search Google.

This is not your list, it is gentoo's use support list. It is appropriate to 
discuss the usage of your very fine software here. Judging by the sheer 
number of requests you received the last time to stop, it can probably be 
safely assumed that discussion of the alleged crusade against free software 
by a Debian faction, and your counter-crusade against them, probably does not 
constitute a welcome discussion.


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



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* Re: [gentoo-user] generating HFS+ isos
  2008-09-20 16:24               ` Dale
  2008-09-20 17:07                 ` Alan McKinnon
@ 2008-09-20 17:21                 ` Joerg Schilling
  2008-09-22 21:46                   ` Andrey Vul
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Joerg Schilling @ 2008-09-20 17:21 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, no.  I just posted that he already looked at your website and 
> didn't see it.  I guess you can make of it whatever you want tho.  It 
> *seems* like you are putting words in my mouth anyway so . . . .

The OP had a technical question and this question has been answered.
In addition, the OP has been given an explanation on the background 
because I believew that he has the right to know about it.

Could you explain me why you are tring to convert this thread into something 
that looks like bashing?

Jörg

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       js@cs.tu-berlin.de                (uni)  
       schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de     (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/
 URL:  http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily



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* Re: [gentoo-user] generating HFS+ isos
  2008-09-20 17:21                 ` Joerg Schilling
@ 2008-09-22 21:46                   ` Andrey Vul
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Andrey Vul @ 2008-09-22 21:46 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

1) Stop the cdrtools vs cdrkit flamewar.
2) I meant HFS+ partition, not Apple extensions to UDF (i.e.
generating a dmg file that, for all intents and purposes, is
indistinguishable from one made in Disk Utility.app or whatever Macs
use to generate DMGs).
3) What I meant was, how to make a hfs *plus* hybrid cd, not hfs
*classic* hybrid cd.
I.e.
/
/foo
/foo/bar.app
/foo/bar.app/Icon\r
/foo/bar.app/qwertyasdf.mpkg
/foo/bar.app/qwertyasdf.mpkg/...
...
/foo/bar.exe
/readme.txt
with *.app, *.mpkg being in HFS+ and *.exe being in ISO9660/Joliet. I
know Toast does this with a fancy GUI, but I don't have the money for
a Mac nor the time to install Hackint0sh in VMware. I was asking if
cdr$foo (or any other *nix-compatible iso maker) does this by passing
a zillion -hide and -hide-hfs parameters (or via fancy GUI, I honestly
don't care)?
-- 
Andrey Vul



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2008-09-19 16:40     ` Joerg Schilling
2008-09-19 17:46       ` [gentoo-user] It's the Mind! Matthias Bethke
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2008-09-20 16:00         ` Joerg Schilling
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