Re: [gentoo-user] Replacements for ivman

[Daniel Pielmeier <daniel.pielmeier@googlemail.com>]

Alan McKinnon schrieb am 11.10.2008 23:06:
> On Saturday 11 October 2008 15:18:24 Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
>> Am Samstag, 11. Oktober 2008 13:24:03 schrieb Alan McKinnon:
>>> Is there a replacement for ivman?
>> What exactly do you do with it, which filesystems do you mount with it?
> 
> At the moment mostly just hot-plug stuff on USB with your standard 
> fat/ext2,3/reiser/nfts file systems, plus optical media. I also have an 
> sd/mmc reader and firewire on this notebook, neither of which I've never used 
> but probably should.
> 
> HAL and the various things one could do with it's events is something I've 
> stayed away from studying. Maybe early versions were confusingly 
> documented... and all those xml files...  I was reading a wiki page on my 
> make/model notebook to see if I could improve on how I was using the 
> hardware, this came up and looked useful. Automounting is the most obvious 
> case, especially as e17 doesn't do it well - I get an ugly icon on the 
> desktop and a long description string that is truncated at about 10 
> characters, so the system is worse than useless. I resort to using konqueror 
> with it's media:/ kio-slave instead, which feels clunky and more of a 
> work-around than a proper desktop configuration.
> 
> If there's something better than ivman, or if I really should be configuration 
> HAL directly, then I'm all ears, but I do get the impression that one really 
> should be working with HAL via a front-end for true ease of use

I also think having software that is unmaintained or updated very seldom
is not a good thing. I mean you lack features, bug and security fixes
here. When I see no progress for an app that I use quite often I search
for alternatives and get used to it.

You are right hal is quite messy and it is not worth to struggle with as
it is not developed any longer [1]. It will be replaced with
devicekit, maybe this will be a better implementation.

Thunar in combination with thunar-volman works fine here. But it also
uses hal and dbus quite much, as most xfce apps. I have no problems with
it though. Optical media and external USB devices work fine, other
things I don't need.

Regards,

Daniel

[1] http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/hal/2008-May/011560.html