[gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[Jerry McBride]

Well, I took notice that kde 4.1.2 is in portage... I quickly removed kde-svn 
and layman and began the unmasking and keywording of 4.1.2. I let it all 
install over night and... This morning, with a little trepidation,  I booted 
into  KDE-4.1.2... no problems!

This is the first of the recent kde4.x releases that I've been able to take 
full advantage of.

Success at last...

Cheers.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[b.n.]

Jerry McBride ha scritto:
> Well, I took notice that kde 4.1.2 is in portage... I quickly removed kde-svn 
> and layman and began the unmasking and keywording of 4.1.2. I let it all 
> install over night and... This morning, with a little trepidation,  I booted 
> into  KDE-4.1.2... no problems!
> 
> This is the first of the recent kde4.x releases that I've been able to take 
> full advantage of.
> 
> Success at last...

Wonderful news!
Could you share your relevant package.mask and package.keywords, for the 
laziest of us? :)

Thanks
m.

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[Alan McKinnon]

On Sunday 05 October 2008 20:08:23 b.n. wrote:
> Jerry McBride ha scritto:
> > Well, I took notice that kde 4.1.2 is in portage... I quickly removed
> > kde-svn and layman and began the unmasking and keywording of 4.1.2. I let
> > it all install over night and... This morning, with a little trepidation,
> >  I booted into  KDE-4.1.2... no problems!
> >
> > This is the first of the recent kde4.x releases that I've been able to
> > take full advantage of.
> >
> > Success at last...
>
> Wonderful news!
> Could you share your relevant package.mask and package.keywords, for the
> laziest of us? :)

It's 250+ lines (or thereabouts) :-(

Easy way:
emerge --sync

open $PORTDIR/profiles/package.mask
copy/paste HUGE list from 2 Oct
Add these:
=app-misc/strigi-0.5.11
=app-office/akonadi-server-1.0.0
=dev-libs/soprano-2.1



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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 20:08:23 +0200, b.n. wrote:

> Could you share your relevant package.mask and package.keywords, for
> the laziest of us? :)

emerge autounmask
autounmask kde-meta

:-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[Luigi Pinna]

Alle domenica 05 ottobre 2008, Neil Bothwick ha scritto:
> On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 20:08:23 +0200, b.n. wrote:
> > Could you share your relevant package.mask and package.keywords,
> > for the laziest of us? :)
>
> emerge autounmask
> autounmask kde-meta
>
> :-)
I continue to have a blocking package (actually not installed):

[blocks B     ] <=x11-libs/qt-4.4.0_alpha:4 (is blocking x11-libs/qt-
dbus-4.4.1, x11-libs/qt-script-4.4.1, x11-libs/qt-qt3support-4.4.1, x11-
libs/qt-assistant-4.4.1, x11-libs/qt-gui-4.4.1, x11-libs/qt-sql-4.4.1, 
x11-libs/qt-xmlpatterns-4.4.1, x11-libs/qt-test-4.4.1, x11-libs/qt-
svg-4.4.1, x11-libs/qt-opengl-4.4.1, x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.4.0)

How to solve it?
Thanks,
Luigi

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 20:59:25 +0200, Luigi Pinna wrote:

> I continue to have a blocking package (actually not installed):
> 
> [blocks B     ] <=x11-libs/qt-4.4.0_alpha:4 (is blocking x11-libs/qt-
> dbus-4.4.1, x11-libs/qt-script-4.4.1, x11-libs/qt-qt3support-4.4.1, x11-
> libs/qt-assistant-4.4.1, x11-libs/qt-gui-4.4.1, x11-libs/qt-sql-4.4.1, 
> x11-libs/qt-xmlpatterns-4.4.1, x11-libs/qt-test-4.4.1, x11-libs/qt-
> svg-4.4.1, x11-libs/qt-opengl-4.4.1, x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.4.0)
> 
> How to solve it?

emerge -Ca "<=x11-libs/qt-4.4.0_alpha:4"

Note the < at the start of the package name, it means any version less
than this (in SLOT 4). You also need the quotes to prevent the shell
interpreting the < as redirection.


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[Alan McKinnon]

On Sunday 05 October 2008 20:16:55 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 20:08:23 +0200, b.n. wrote:
> > Could you share your relevant package.mask and package.keywords, for
> > the laziest of us? :)
>
> emerge autounmask
> autounmask kde-meta

For the super-lazy amongst us, what does that package do?

OK, I can figure out what it does, so my real question should be "what other 
stuff does it do that I might not expect? Any gotchas?"

I've become ... wary ... of useful sounding packages that claim to automate 
tricky portage things


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[Dale]

Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Sunday 05 October 2008 20:16:55 Neil Bothwick wrote:
>   
>> On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 20:08:23 +0200, b.n. wrote:
>>     
>>> Could you share your relevant package.mask and package.keywords, for
>>> the laziest of us? :)
>>>       
>> emerge autounmask
>> autounmask kde-meta
>>     
>
> For the super-lazy amongst us, what does that package do?
>
> OK, I can figure out what it does, so my real question should be "what other 
> stuff does it do that I might not expect? Any gotchas?"
>
> I've become ... wary ... of useful sounding packages that claim to automate 
> tricky portage things
>
>
>   

I have used it and it seems to work pretty good.  I must confess that I
backed up my /etc just in case.  ;-)  Never hurts right?

I used it to unmask KDE 4 when it first came out just to see what, if
anything, was different.  Since I am still on dial-up and KDE 4 was
updating a pretty good bit, I went back to KDE 3.5. 

I also like the way it separated what it added to the package.* files
from what I already had there.  In Kwrite for example, you can just
highlight from where it started to the end, hit delete and it is like it
never happened.

May be worth a try, just back up /etc first.  Just in case your mileage
varies.  :-p 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 22:47:42 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> > emerge autounmask
> > autounmask kde-meta  
> 
> For the super-lazy amongst us, what does that package do?
> 
> OK, I can figure out what it does, so my real question should be "what
> other stuff does it do that I might not expect? Any gotchas?"

It basically adds a bunch of packages to /etc/portage/packages.unmask
and /etc/portage/packages.keywords, bracketed by start/end comments so
you can remove them. It's a quick and easy way of emerging something
with a lot of masked dependencies, like kde-meta:4.

I used it the last time I tried KDE4 and it did just as was expected,
except is added =cat/pkg-vers, which I changed to ~cat/pkg/vers so I
could pick up and fixes.
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[Dale]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
>
> It basically adds a bunch of packages to /etc/portage/packages.unmask
> and /etc/portage/packages.keywords, bracketed by start/end comments so
> you can remove them. It's a quick and easy way of emerging something
> with a lot of masked dependencies, like kde-meta:4.
>
> I used it the last time I tried KDE4 and it did just as was expected,
> except is added =cat/pkg-vers, which I changed to ~cat/pkg/vers so I
> could pick up and fixes.
>  
>
>   

You can tell it not to put versions tho.

root@smoker / # autounmask -h

 autounmask version 0.21 (using PortageXS-0.02.07 and portage-2.2_rc11)

 Usage:
   autounmask category/package-version

 Options:
   -h, --help             : Show this help.
   -p, --pretend          : Just pretend.
   -n, --noversions       : Do not append version when unmasking a
package.    <<<<-------------- 

root@smoker / #

Just use the -n option.  I haven't used that that I can recall tho.  Now
watch some guru come up with a script to remove them.  ;-) 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[Daniel Johnson]

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It turns out that /etc/portage/package.keywords
and /etc/portage/package.unmask can be directories, which is convenient
for organizational purposes.  If this is the case, autounmask does the
smart thing and creates the file autounmask-pkgname (in this case,
autounmask-kde-meta) in those folders. I find this a much easier way to
try it out, and maintain its additions.
On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 17:30 -0500, Dale wrote:
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
> >
> > It basically adds a bunch of packages to /etc/portage/packages.unmask
> > and /etc/portage/packages.keywords, bracketed by start/end comments so
> > you can remove them. It's a quick and easy way of emerging something
> > with a lot of masked dependencies, like kde-meta:4.
> >
> > I used it the last time I tried KDE4 and it did just as was expected,
> > except is added =cat/pkg-vers, which I changed to ~cat/pkg/vers so I
> > could pick up and fixes.
> >  
> >
> >   
> 
> You can tell it not to put versions tho.
> 
> root@smoker / # autounmask -h
> 
>  autounmask version 0.21 (using PortageXS-0.02.07 and portage-2.2_rc11)
> 
>  Usage:
>    autounmask category/package-version
> 
>  Options:
>    -h, --help             : Show this help.
>    -p, --pretend          : Just pretend.
>    -n, --noversions       : Do not append version when unmasking a
> package.    <<<<-------------- 
> 
> root@smoker / #
> 
> Just use the -n option.  I haven't used that that I can recall tho.  Now
> watch some guru come up with a script to remove them.  ;-) 
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-) 
> 

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 17:30:40 -0500, Dale wrote:

> > I used it the last time I tried KDE4 and it did just as was expected,
> > except is added =cat/pkg-vers, which I changed to ~cat/pkg/vers so I
> > could pick up and fixes.

> You can tell it not to put versions tho.

Yes, but that can be dodgy. I may want 4.1.2 but not 4.2.0_beta.


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[Roy Wright]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 20:08:23 +0200, b.n. wrote:
> 
>> Could you share your relevant package.mask and package.keywords, for
>> the laziest of us? :)
> 
> emerge autounmask
> autounmask kde-meta

On my ~x86, I had to add:

~app-misc/strigi-0.5.11

to etc/portage/package.unmask/autounmask-kde-meta to resolve a blocking
issue between strigi-0.5.10 and strigi-0.5.11

app-misc/strigi:0

  ('installed', '/', 'app-misc/strigi-0.5.11', 'nomerge') pulled in by
    ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/libplasma-4.1.2', 'merge')

  ('ebuild', '/', 'app-misc/strigi-0.5.10', 'merge') pulled in by
    ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-4.1.2', 'merge')
    ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/nepomuk-4.1.2', 'merge')
    ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer-4.1.2', 'merge')
    (and 4 more)


BTW, I also changed all of the '=' to '~' to catch any future revs...

Compiling now...

HTH,
Roy

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[b.n.]

Roy Wright ha scritto:
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 20:08:23 +0200, b.n. wrote:
>>
>>> Could you share your relevant package.mask and package.keywords, for
>>> the laziest of us? :)
>> emerge autounmask
>> autounmask kde-meta
> 
> On my ~x86, I had to add:
> 
> ~app-misc/strigi-0.5.11
> 
> to etc/portage/package.unmask/autounmask-kde-meta to resolve a blocking
> issue between strigi-0.5.10 and strigi-0.5.11
> 
> app-misc/strigi:0
> 
>   ('installed', '/', 'app-misc/strigi-0.5.11', 'nomerge') pulled in by
>     ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/libplasma-4.1.2', 'merge')
> 
>   ('ebuild', '/', 'app-misc/strigi-0.5.10', 'merge') pulled in by
>     ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-4.1.2', 'merge')
>     ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/nepomuk-4.1.2', 'merge')
>     ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer-4.1.2', 'merge')
>     (and 4 more)
> 
> 
> BTW, I also changed all of the '=' to '~' to catch any future revs...

A bit of a stupid question but I want to be double-sure:
-KDE 4 and KDE 3 can happily live together, isn't it?
-Do I need to backup config files/use KDE 4 as another user if I want to 
switch between KDE 4 and KDE 3?
-Anything else to worry about?

Thanks!
m.

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[Jerry McBride]

On Monday 06 October 2008 04:07:27 pm b.n. wrote:
> Roy Wright ha scritto:
> > Neil Bothwick wrote:
> >> On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 20:08:23 +0200, b.n. wrote:
> >>> Could you share your relevant package.mask and package.keywords, for
> >>> the laziest of us? :)
> >>
> >> emerge autounmask
> >> autounmask kde-meta
> >
> > On my ~x86, I had to add:
> >
> > ~app-misc/strigi-0.5.11
> >
> > to etc/portage/package.unmask/autounmask-kde-meta to resolve a blocking
> > issue between strigi-0.5.10 and strigi-0.5.11
> >
> > app-misc/strigi:0
> >
> >   ('installed', '/', 'app-misc/strigi-0.5.11', 'nomerge') pulled in by
> >     ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/libplasma-4.1.2', 'merge')
> >
> >   ('ebuild', '/', 'app-misc/strigi-0.5.10', 'merge') pulled in by
> >     ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-4.1.2', 'merge')
> >     ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/nepomuk-4.1.2', 'merge')
> >     ('ebuild', '/', 'kde-base/kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer-4.1.2',
> > 'merge') (and 4 more)
> >
> >
> > BTW, I also changed all of the '=' to '~' to catch any future revs...
>
> A bit of a stupid question but I want to be double-sure:
> -KDE 4 and KDE 3 can happily live together, isn't it?
> -Do I need to backup config files/use KDE 4 as another user if I want to
> switch between KDE 4 and KDE 3?
> -Anything else to worry about?
>
> Thanks!
> m.

I have both kde-3.5.10 and kde-4.1.2 and there are a couple of small 
incompatibilities... and that's why they are still masked. If I recall 
right... I had to upgrade to the latest ~x86 portage and then I had to iron 
out kopete for both versions of kde... No show stoppers, but there are a few 
issues you'll have to iron out.

Sorry, I made no notes... but in my MOST HUMBLE opinion... there's no reason 
to not to try kde-4.1.2.






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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[b.n.]

Jerry McBride ha scritto:

> I have both kde-3.5.10 and kde-4.1.2 and there are a couple of small 
> incompatibilities... and that's why they are still masked. If I recall 
> right... I had to upgrade to the latest ~x86 portage and then I had to iron 
> out kopete for both versions of kde... No show stoppers, but there are a few 
> issues you'll have to iron out.
> 
> Sorry, I made no notes... but in my MOST HUMBLE opinion... there's no reason 
> to not to try kde-4.1.2.
> 

Well, for me laziness is just enough to let me wait for it to hit at 
least ~x86...

(Also, I don't want ~x86 portage)

m.

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 00:01:03 +0200, b.n. wrote:

> (Also, I don't want ~x86 portage)

Why not? It's running well on several machines here, some are fully ~arch
while others run mainly stable with a handful of testing packages,
including portage.

Or you could use paludis, that way you can install KDE4 without needing
~x86 portage ;-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[Peter Humphrey]

On Sunday 05 October 2008 19:16:55 Neil Bothwick wrote:

> emerge autounmask
> autounmask kde-meta

When I tried that just now I got this (blank lines pruned):

# autounmask kde-meta
 autounmask version 0.21 (using PortageXS-0.02.07 and portage-2.2_rc11)
 * Using repositories:
     /usr/portage
     /usr/local/portage
 * The given category/package-version does not seem to exist. Listing 
existing versions:
 * gentoo (/usr/portage):
     none
 * local-repo (/usr/local/portage):
     none
 * Please pick one of the versions given above and try again.

Looks like I need something else too - and yes, I have run emerge --sync.

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Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 08:44:46 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:

> > emerge autounmask
> > autounmask kde-meta  
> 
> When I tried that just now I got this (blank lines pruned):
> 
> # autounmask kde-meta
>  autounmask version 0.21 (using PortageXS-0.02.07 and portage-2.2_rc11)
>  * Using repositories:
>      /usr/portage
>      /usr/local/portage
>  * The given category/package-version does not seem to exist.

Because you haven't given a category/package-version, just the package
name. I did the same because it's been a while since I used this.

autounmask kde-base/kde-meta-4.1.2


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[Peter Humphrey]

On Tuesday 07 October 2008 16:14:12 Neil Bothwick wrote:

> [...] you haven't given a category/package-version, just the package
> name. I did the same because it's been a while since I used this.
>
> autounmask kde-base/kde-meta-4.1.2

Of course. Thanks.

-- 
Rgds
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[davidvoge]

> Well, I took notice that kde 4.1.2 is in portage... I quickly removed
> kde-svn and layman and began the unmasking and keywording of 4.1.2. I let
> it all install over night and... This morning, with a little trepidation, 
> I booted into  KDE-4.1.2... no problems!
>
> This is the first of the recent kde4.x releases that I've been able to take
> full advantage of.
>
> Success at last...
>
> Cheers.

I had tried KDE-4.1.1 and see that there is no problems to use it! i tried 
like much other people KDE-4.0 and there it was in heavy development.

KDE-4.1.2 is running good, too.

The only biggest thing i see in moment is the Amarok and hanging _sometimes_. 
But this will be done near future.

The second is, if you like to configure your panel's you are not able to 
choose the place of icon's were you want to place it exactly. on kde-look.org 
is a panel-spacer available.

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[Andrew Gaydenko]

======= On Tuesday 07 October 2008, davidvoge@googlemail.com wrote: =======
..
> KDE-4.1.2 is running good, too.

BTW, have Gentoo KDE maintainers any plans/politics wrt KDE4 unmasking for 
~archs? 4.2?

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[davidvoge]

> ======= On Tuesday 07 October 2008, davidvoge@googlemail.com wrote: =======
> ..
>
> > KDE-4.1.2 is running good, too.
>
> BTW, have Gentoo KDE maintainers any plans/politics wrt KDE4 unmasking for
> ~archs? 4.2?

in package.mask is wrote:
# KDE 4.1.2 ebuilds from the kde overlay are going to enter the tree.
# Masked to avoid problems on sync. Currently fixing some kde3 / kde4
# mixing issues before unmasking.

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[Andrew Gaydenko]

======= On Tuesday 07 October 2008, davidvoge@googlemail.com wrote: =======
> > ======= On Tuesday 07 October 2008, davidvoge@googlemail.com wrote:
> > ======= ..
> >
> > > KDE-4.1.2 is running good, too.
> >
> > BTW, have Gentoo KDE maintainers any plans/politics wrt KDE4 unmasking
> > for ~archs? 4.2?
>
> in package.mask is wrote:
> # KDE 4.1.2 ebuilds from the kde overlay are going to enter the tree.
> # Masked to avoid problems on sync. Currently fixing some kde3 / kde4
> # mixing issues before unmasking.

Thanks!

I have found another KDE app which is important sufficiently to delay 
switching to KDE4 - the app is k3b, which still isn't ported. If I 
understand well, there isn't any minimal apps list (and k3b, would be in 
the list, I think) which must be ported to KDE4 before unmasking KDE4 in 
portage. Is it so?

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[Erik Hahn]

On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 11:13:33PM +0400, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> I have found another KDE app which is important sufficiently to delay 
> switching to KDE4 - the app is k3b, which still isn't ported. If I 
> understand well, there isn't any minimal apps list (and k3b, would be in 
> the list, I think) which must be ported to KDE4 before unmasking KDE4 in 
> portage. Is it so?

Why should there be one? The fact k3b isn't ported yet doesn't break any
other KDE package. 

	-Erik	

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[Andrew Gaydenko]

======= On Tuesday 07 October 2008, Erik Hahn wrote: =======
> On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 11:13:33PM +0400, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> > I have found another KDE app which is important sufficiently to delay
> > switching to KDE4 - the app is k3b, which still isn't ported. If I
> > understand well, there isn't any minimal apps list (and k3b, would be
> > in the list, I think) which must be ported to KDE4 before unmasking
> > KDE4 in portage. Is it so?
>
> Why should there be one? The fact k3b isn't ported yet doesn't break any
> other KDE package.
>
> 	-Erik

Say, at upgrading to new gcc version there is a list of issues which must be 
resolved to treat such upgrade completed. I have supposed something similar 
exists for KDE4 also.

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 07 October 2008 21:56:58 Erik Hahn wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 11:13:33PM +0400, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> > I have found another KDE app which is important sufficiently to delay
> > switching to KDE4 - the app is k3b, which still isn't ported. If I
> > understand well, there isn't any minimal apps list (and k3b, would be in
> > the list, I think) which must be ported to KDE4 before unmasking KDE4 in
> > portage. Is it so?
>
> Why should there be one? The fact k3b isn't ported yet doesn't break any
> other KDE package.
>
> 	-Erik

What makes you think k3b should be in the list at all?

It's not a critical app, just a nice convenient one.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[Andrew Gaydenko]

======= On Wednesday 08 October 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: =======
> On Tuesday 07 October 2008 21:56:58 Erik Hahn wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 11:13:33PM +0400, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> > > I have found another KDE app which is important sufficiently to delay
> > > switching to KDE4 - the app is k3b, which still isn't ported. If I
> > > understand well, there isn't any minimal apps list (and k3b, would be
> > > in the list, I think) which must be ported to KDE4 before unmasking
> > > KDE4 in portage. Is it so?
> >
> > Why should there be one? The fact k3b isn't ported yet doesn't break
> > any other KDE package.
> >
> > 	-Erik
>
> What makes you think k3b should be in the list at all?
>
> It's not a critical app, just a nice convenient one.

I don't say "should", and at any way don't claim - just am interesting in 
Gentoo team' rules in use :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[b.n.]

Erik Hahn ha scritto:
> On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 11:13:33PM +0400, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
>> I have found another KDE app which is important sufficiently to delay 
>> switching to KDE4 - the app is k3b, which still isn't ported. If I 
>> understand well, there isn't any minimal apps list (and k3b, would be in 
>> the list, I think) which must be ported to KDE4 before unmasking KDE4 in 
>> portage. Is it so?
> 
> Why should there be one? The fact k3b isn't ported yet doesn't break any
> other KDE package. 

Does k3b 3.5 run happily under kde4?
If yes, there is no problem.
If not, there is.

m.

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[Dirk Heinrichs]

Am Mittwoch, 8. Oktober 2008 19:40:25 schrieb b.n.:

> Does k3b 3.5 run happily under kde4?

As happily as under fvwm, or gnustep, or xfce, or...

It doesn't matter on which desktop it runs as long as it finds its libs.

Oh, btw. the last version 1.0.5, not 3.5.

Bye...

	Dirk

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[Alan McKinnon]

On Wednesday 08 October 2008 19:40:25 b.n. wrote:
> Erik Hahn ha scritto:
> > On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 11:13:33PM +0400, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> >> I have found another KDE app which is important sufficiently to delay
> >> switching to KDE4 - the app is k3b, which still isn't ported. If I
> >> understand well, there isn't any minimal apps list (and k3b, would be in
> >> the list, I think) which must be ported to KDE4 before unmasking KDE4 in
> >> portage. Is it so?
> >
> > Why should there be one? The fact k3b isn't ported yet doesn't break any
> > other KDE package.
>
> Does k3b 3.5 run happily under kde4?
> If yes, there is no problem.
> If not, there is.

That question is irrelevant. It should be:

If k3b is ported to KDE4, then it will use the kde4 libs
If not, the ebuild will emerge the kde3 libs and k3b will use those.

Either way, there is no problem.

Besides, isn't k3b NOT part of the official KDE tarballs (like amarok)? If so 
it can't hold up KDE4. 



-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[b.n.]

Alan McKinnon ha scritto:
> On Wednesday 08 October 2008 19:40:25 b.n. wrote:
>> Erik Hahn ha scritto:
>>> On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 11:13:33PM +0400, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
>>>> I have found another KDE app which is important sufficiently to delay
>>>> switching to KDE4 - the app is k3b, which still isn't ported. If I
>>>> understand well, there isn't any minimal apps list (and k3b, would be in
>>>> the list, I think) which must be ported to KDE4 before unmasking KDE4 in
>>>> portage. Is it so?
>>> Why should there be one? The fact k3b isn't ported yet doesn't break any
>>> other KDE package.
>> Does k3b 3.5 run happily under kde4?
>> If yes, there is no problem.
>> If not, there is.
> 
> That question is irrelevant. It should be:
> 
> If k3b is ported to KDE4, then it will use the kde4 libs
> If not, the ebuild will emerge the kde3 libs and k3b will use those.
>
> Either way, there is no problem.

I know that *in theory* it is so. In practice however, someone in this
thread has said that for example kopete suffers incompatibilities. Maybe
I have not understood correctly ; however that's why I asked.

m.

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[Dirk Heinrichs]

Am Mittwoch, 8. Oktober 2008 23:28:50 schrieb b.n.:

> I know that *in theory* it is so. In practice however, someone in this
> thread has said that for example kopete suffers incompatibilities.

Hmm, kopete _is_ part of KDE and _has_been ported (both is not true for k3b, 
AFAIK). However, if there are incompatibilities, you can always stay with the 
version from KDE 3.5.

Bye...

	Dirk

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.1.2... a winner!

[Paul Hartman]

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Andrew Gaydenko <a@gaydenko.com> wrote:
> I have found another KDE app which is important sufficiently to delay
> switching to KDE4 - the app is k3b, which still isn't ported. If I
> understand well, there isn't any minimal apps list (and k3b, would be in
> the list, I think) which must be ported to KDE4 before unmasking KDE4 in
> portage. Is it so?

I thought there was a KDE4 version of k3b on the kdesvn-portage
overlay. I haven't tried it but I'm pretty sure it is there. According
to the k3b blog initial porting was done in May.

Paul