From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9652D1382C5 for ; Fri, 28 May 2021 06:19:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 03DD7E09E9; Fri, 28 May 2021 06:19:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout-p-202.mailbox.org (mout-p-202.mailbox.org [80.241.56.172]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 16357E09E2 for ; Fri, 28 May 2021 06:19:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp2.mailbox.org (smtp2.mailbox.org [IPv6:2001:67c:2050:105:465:1:2:0]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-384) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mout-p-202.mailbox.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Frvfj27BTzQjmW for ; Fri, 28 May 2021 08:19:41 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at heinlein-support.de DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linuxkompis.se; s=MBO0001; t=1622182779; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=+37wF+e2eFZrhe/DquevopJsxG+kqjM+EndI4K5fnF4=; b=N/Iuq7zUQ3Vuygyrtk16mR9bXh+WjavUUd72hWjH7CsDKoRNH3clnEDypCuNoXTRZA82OM YyrXMjwdqUm/nnzKfOouYF8Qehg2/iZhXKwlVGtZUKaIdv0U5GMmXiWjiBk3UPx2D4grip 4j3BuiVuszRbIdGKeiE5KdS/WFeyk6XXF4t/+KwBABVnURyQDpNmawTA1U2abvC8xaGeLQ Z/W+ZHW4W9nD2dL2B3oZhH1TFt5Dh/30Us1kzumjLU2YWPcmrUh9HSeuMHYqwjNcPL7aBU o6KQyciw341mVJgU+qFRoTb3hmuL8doVcvrB7JwK+NzfMX9X6pJ8A2iIsK4qWQ== Received: from smtp2.mailbox.org ([80.241.60.241]) by spamfilter01.heinlein-hosting.de (spamfilter01.heinlein-hosting.de [80.241.56.115]) (amavisd-new, port 10030) with ESMTP id kFVC94QDx8D2 for ; Fri, 28 May 2021 08:19:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 28 May 2021 08:19:34 +0200 From: Hund To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo IRC presence moving to Libera Chat In-Reply-To: <6najmdmOF9psWbDy48ZXQRakv7w7RyphE3zFEk1L2up_gc-plGNacnepJ0__m9jvW8jdluVpgck9v-xxYXeVtAVJ3ULKyvfILxuubBIa5Vw=@protonmail.com> References: <3911325.RUnXabflUD@pinacolada> <6najmdmOF9psWbDy48ZXQRakv7w7RyphE3zFEk1L2up_gc-plGNacnepJ0__m9jvW8jdluVpgck9v-xxYXeVtAVJ3ULKyvfILxuubBIa5Vw=@protonmail.com> Message-ID: <489D1BC3-E78F-42E0-A4B0-6CFA6CA1D95D@linuxkompis.se> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MBO-SPAM-Probability: ** X-Rspamd-Score: 2.46 / 15.00 / 15.00 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 52AE51804 X-Rspamd-UID: 8c44d5 X-Archives-Salt: 3058b2c5-5cee-4848-9060-8e5c6b35f611 X-Archives-Hash: 42b37868887cea899b3b42d4630afb47 On May 28, 2021 5:50:32 AM GMT+02:00, "caveman =D8=B1=D9=8E=D8=AC=D9=8F=D9= =84=D9=8F =D8=A7=D9=84=D9=92=D9=83=D9=8E=D9=87=D9=92=D9=81=D9=90 =E7=A9=B4= =E5=B1=85=E4=BA=BA" wrote: >hi=2E any reason why you guys didn't go to OFTC >instead of libera? > >despite libera being called after liberty in latin, >its tor support is hypocritical, as it requires >registering SASL over an un-tor-ed connection, >hence revealing your IP address, which defeats the >whole point of tor (hiding your IP address)=2E >OFTC, on the other hand, is the home of the tor >project, and has best tor support=2E so, in a >sense, OFTC is the true libera=2E > >rgrds, >cm=2E > (I'm not representing Gentoo=2E) The purpose of Libera Chat is to provide a community platform for libre so= ftware and peer directed projects, like Gentoo=2E Libera means "to set free"=2E Which is the philosophical view of software = that it should be free as in free speech, not necessarily as in free beer= =2E It has nothing to with online anonymity=2E -- Hund