[gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Dale]

Hi, again,

I just noticed a problem with my new DVD burner.  I posted this on the 
forums but no response as of yet.  This is the info that may help:

[I--] [  ] app-cdr/cdrtools-2.01.01_alpha34
[-P-] [  ] app-cdr/k3b-0.12.17
[I--] [  ] sys-fs/udev-119
[I--] [  ] app-misc/hal-info-20070618 (0)
[I--] [  ] sys-apps/hal-0.5.9.1-r3 (0)
[I--] [  ] sys-fs/udev-119 (0)

Also tried:

[-P-] [M~] app-cdr/cdrtools-2.01.01_alpha42 (0)

That didn't help either. I also disabled ivman with no change. I use KDE 
3.5.9 for my desktop.

I can see it as root but not as a user. Other things I have noticed. 
When no *DVD* is inserted:

root@smoker / # ls -al /media/
total 1
drwxr-xr-x  6 root root  248 2008-07-12 03:54 .
drwxr-xr-x 24 root root  560 2008-07-10 12:40 ..
drwxrwxr-x  2 root users  48 2006-10-25 06:23 floppy
-rw-r--r--  1 root root    0 2008-07-12 03:43 .hal-mtab
-rw-------  1 root root    0 2008-07-12 03:54 .hal-mtab-lock
drwxrwxr-x  2 root users  48 2006-10-25 04:00 hdc
drwxrwxr-x  2 root users  48 2008-07-04 14:21 hdd
-rw-r--r--  1 root root    0 2008-07-12 01:48 .keep_sys-apps_hal-0
root@smoker / #

When I have a *DVD* inserted I get this:

root@smoker / # ls -al /media/
total 3
drwxr-xr-x  6 root root  248 2008-07-12 03:54 .
drwxr-xr-x 24 root root  560 2008-07-10 12:40 ..
drwxrwxr-x  2 root users  48 2006-10-25 06:23 floppy
-rw-r--r--  1 root root    0 2008-07-12 03:43 .hal-mtab
-rw-------  1 root root    0 2008-07-12 03:54 .hal-mtab-lock
drwxrwxr-x  2 root users  48 2006-10-25 04:00 hdc
d---------  2 root root  112 2008-07-12 03:08 hdd
-rw-r--r--  1 root root    0 2008-07-12 01:48 .keep_sys-apps_hal-0
root@smoker / #

It changes the permissions whenever I insert the DVD. I'm not sure if it 
is something that is on the DVD or if it is a mounting issue.  Here is 
my fstab line for the *DVD*:

/dev/hdd      /media/hdd    auto    noauto,users    0 0

and when a *DVD* is inserted mount reports this:

/dev/hdd on /media/hdd type udf (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)

I have a CD burner on here too. I basically set them both up the same 
way. The CD works just fine but the *DVD* does not.

Any ideas?

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:39:03 -0500, Dale wrote:

> It changes the permissions whenever I insert the DVD. I'm not sure if
> it is something that is on the DVD or if it is a mounting issue.  Here
> is my fstab line for the *DVD*:
> 
> /dev/hdd      /media/hdd    auto    noauto,users    0 0

Unless you have a very good reason to leave this in place, remove it. HAL
based automounters do not need fstab, but it will override their defaults
if present. A desktop automounter will usually mount the device as the
user running it, that's certainly the case with KDE and should be with
ivman.

The changing permissions on the mount point is because they are now the
permissions of something else. When nothing is mounted there, the
permissions are those of the mount point on the parent filesystem, when
you mount something, they are the permissions of the root of the mounted
device.

Do other devices, such as USB sticks, mount correctly?


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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Dale]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:39:03 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>   
>> It changes the permissions whenever I insert the DVD. I'm not sure if
>> it is something that is on the DVD or if it is a mounting issue.  Here
>> is my fstab line for the *DVD*:
>>
>> /dev/hdd      /media/hdd    auto    noauto,users    0 0
>>     
>
> Unless you have a very good reason to leave this in place, remove it. HAL
> based automounters do not need fstab, but it will override their defaults
> if present. A desktop automounter will usually mount the device as the
> user running it, that's certainly the case with KDE and should be with
> ivman.
>
> The changing permissions on the mount point is because they are now the
> permissions of something else. When nothing is mounted there, the
> permissions are those of the mount point on the parent filesystem, when
> you mount something, they are the permissions of the root of the mounted
> device.
>
> Do other devices, such as USB sticks, mount correctly?
>
>
>   

Hi,

I commented out the lines in fstab for both DVD and CD drives.  The only 
change is that I get this:

root@smoker / # ls -al /media/
total 5
drwxr-xr-x  5 root  root     224 2008-07-12 04:03 .
drwxr-xr-x 24 root  root     560 2008-07-10 12:40 ..
drwxrwxr-x  2 root  users     48 2006-10-25 06:23 floppy
-rw-r--r--  1 root  root       0 2008-07-12 03:43 .hal-mtab
-rw-------  1 root  root       0 2008-07-12 03:54 .hal-mtab-lock
dr-xr-xr-x  1 root  root    2048 2003-11-13 17:10 hdc
d---------  2 ivman plugdev  112 2008-07-12 03:08 hdd
-rw-r--r--  1 root  root       0 2008-07-12 01:48 .keep_sys-apps_hal-0
root@smoker / # 

So I disabled ivman and tried again, no change.  I still can not access 
the DVD as a user.  The CD seems to work the same way as it always has.  
The permissions have changed to root/root tho. 

Any other ideas?

Dale


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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Dale]

Dale wrote:
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:39:03 -0500, Dale wrote:
>>
>>  
>>> It changes the permissions whenever I insert the DVD. I'm not sure if
>>> it is something that is on the DVD or if it is a mounting issue.  Here
>>> is my fstab line for the *DVD*:
>>>
>>> /dev/hdd      /media/hdd    auto    noauto,users    0 0
>>>     
>>
>> Unless you have a very good reason to leave this in place, remove it. 
>> HAL
>> based automounters do not need fstab, but it will override their 
>> defaults
>> if present. A desktop automounter will usually mount the device as the
>> user running it, that's certainly the case with KDE and should be with
>> ivman.
>>
>> The changing permissions on the mount point is because they are now the
>> permissions of something else. When nothing is mounted there, the
>> permissions are those of the mount point on the parent filesystem, when
>> you mount something, they are the permissions of the root of the mounted
>> device.
>>
>> Do other devices, such as USB sticks, mount correctly?
>>
>>
>>   
>
> Hi,
>
> I commented out the lines in fstab for both DVD and CD drives.  The 
> only change is that I get this:
>
> root@smoker / # ls -al /media/
> total 5
> drwxr-xr-x  5 root  root     224 2008-07-12 04:03 .
> drwxr-xr-x 24 root  root     560 2008-07-10 12:40 ..
> drwxrwxr-x  2 root  users     48 2006-10-25 06:23 floppy
> -rw-r--r--  1 root  root       0 2008-07-12 03:43 .hal-mtab
> -rw-------  1 root  root       0 2008-07-12 03:54 .hal-mtab-lock
> dr-xr-xr-x  1 root  root    2048 2003-11-13 17:10 hdc
> d---------  2 ivman plugdev  112 2008-07-12 03:08 hdd
> -rw-r--r--  1 root  root       0 2008-07-12 01:48 .keep_sys-apps_hal-0
> root@smoker / #
> So I disabled ivman and tried again, no change.  I still can not 
> access the DVD as a user.  The CD seems to work the same way as it 
> always has.  The permissions have changed to root/root tho.
> Any other ideas?
>
> Dale
>
>

Hi,

I re-emerged udev and noticed this little foot note:

mount options for directory /dev are no longer
set in /etc/udev/udev.conf, but in /etc/fstab
as for other directories.

I don't have anything in fstab for /udev.  This is what mount reports:

root@smoker / # mount
/dev/hda6 on / type reiserfs (rw)
proc on /proc type proc (rw)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec)
udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,nosuid)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,nosuid,noexec)
/dev/hda1 on /boot type ext2 (rw)
/dev/hda7 on /usr/portage type reiserfs (rw)
/dev/hda8 on /home type reiserfs (rw)
/dev/hda9 on /data type reiserfs (rw)
/dev/hdb1 on /backup type ext3 (rw)
none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,devmode=0664,devgid=85)
binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc 
(rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
/dev/hdd on /media/hdd type udf 
(rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,uid=104,gid=451,umask=007)
/dev/hdc on /media/hdc type iso9660 (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
root@smoker / #

udev is there but is this "normal"?  How does a person restart udev 
anyway?  Do I have to reboot?  I also deleted all the files in /etc/udev 
before re-emerging udev, just in case.  I'm about out of ideas here. 

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:10:12 -0500, Dale wrote:

> I re-emerged udev and noticed this little foot note:
> 
> mount options for directory /dev are no longer
> set in /etc/udev/udev.conf, but in /etc/fstab
> as for other directories.
> 
> I don't have anything in fstab for /udev.  This is what mount reports:

Neither do I, even on a brand new, up to date install.

> root@smoker / # mount
> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,nosuid)

/dev is mounted, which is what matters. If /dev were not mounting you'd
have far more serious problems that reading DVDs.


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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:10:15 -0500, Dale wrote:

> d---------  2 ivman plugdev  112 2008-07-12 03:08 hdd

This is weird, the ownership is correct (you need to belong to the
plugdev group to use automounted devices) but the permissions certainly
are not. Do you have any rules for this in /etc/udev/rules.d?


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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Dale]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:10:15 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>   
>> d---------  2 ivman plugdev  112 2008-07-12 03:08 hdd
>>     
>
> This is weird, the ownership is correct (you need to belong to the
> plugdev group to use automounted devices) but the permissions certainly
> are not. Do you have any rules for this in /etc/udev/rules.d?
>
>
>   

This is what I found that even mentions DVD in the file:  I'm only 
including the lines that contain DVD.

 From /etc/udev/rules.d/65-permissions.rules

KERNEL=="pktcdvd|pktcdvd[0-9]*", GROUP="cdrom", MODE="660"

 From /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-cd.rules:

# Optiarc_DVD_RW_AD-7200A (pci-0000:00:09.0-ide-1:1)
ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-0000:00:09.0-ide-1:1", 
SYMLINK+="dvd1", ENV{GENERATED}="1"
ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-0000:00:09.0-ide-1:1", 
SYMLINK+="dvdrw1", ENV{GENERATED}="1"

 From /etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules:

KERNEL=="pktcdvd[0-9]*",    NAME="pktcdvd/%k"
KERNEL=="pktcdvd",        NAME="pktcdvd/control"

Those are the only ones I can find.  I used the find part of Konqeror to 
do the search.  Anything odd that you see?  It looks like it should go 
to the group cdrom and have permissions set to 660 to me.

Ideas?

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Dale]

Dale wrote:
> Hi, again,
>
> I just noticed a problem with my new DVD burner.  I posted this on the 
> forums but no response as of yet.  This is the info that may help:
>
> [I--] [  ] app-cdr/cdrtools-2.01.01_alpha34
> [-P-] [  ] app-cdr/k3b-0.12.17
> [I--] [  ] sys-fs/udev-119
> [I--] [  ] app-misc/hal-info-20070618 (0)
> [I--] [  ] sys-apps/hal-0.5.9.1-r3 (0)
> [I--] [  ] sys-fs/udev-119 (0)
>
> Also tried:
>
> [-P-] [M~] app-cdr/cdrtools-2.01.01_alpha42 (0)
>
> That didn't help either. I also disabled ivman with no change. I use 
> KDE 3.5.9 for my desktop.
>
> I can see it as root but not as a user. Other things I have noticed. 
> When no *DVD* is inserted:
>
> root@smoker / # ls -al /media/
> total 1
> drwxr-xr-x  6 root root  248 2008-07-12 03:54 .
> drwxr-xr-x 24 root root  560 2008-07-10 12:40 ..
> drwxrwxr-x  2 root users  48 2006-10-25 06:23 floppy
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root    0 2008-07-12 03:43 .hal-mtab
> -rw-------  1 root root    0 2008-07-12 03:54 .hal-mtab-lock
> drwxrwxr-x  2 root users  48 2006-10-25 04:00 hdc
> drwxrwxr-x  2 root users  48 2008-07-04 14:21 hdd
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root    0 2008-07-12 01:48 .keep_sys-apps_hal-0
> root@smoker / #
>
> When I have a *DVD* inserted I get this:
>
> root@smoker / # ls -al /media/
> total 3
> drwxr-xr-x  6 root root  248 2008-07-12 03:54 .
> drwxr-xr-x 24 root root  560 2008-07-10 12:40 ..
> drwxrwxr-x  2 root users  48 2006-10-25 06:23 floppy
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root    0 2008-07-12 03:43 .hal-mtab
> -rw-------  1 root root    0 2008-07-12 03:54 .hal-mtab-lock
> drwxrwxr-x  2 root users  48 2006-10-25 04:00 hdc
> d---------  2 root root  112 2008-07-12 03:08 hdd
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root    0 2008-07-12 01:48 .keep_sys-apps_hal-0
> root@smoker / #
>
> It changes the permissions whenever I insert the DVD. I'm not sure if 
> it is something that is on the DVD or if it is a mounting issue.  Here 
> is my fstab line for the *DVD*:
>
> /dev/hdd      /media/hdd    auto    noauto,users    0 0
>
> and when a *DVD* is inserted mount reports this:
>
> /dev/hdd on /media/hdd type udf (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
>
> I have a CD burner on here too. I basically set them both up the same 
> way. The CD works just fine but the *DVD* does not.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)

OK folks, still looking for a fix here.  Any ideas at all?

Thanks

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Daniel Pielmeier]

Dale schrieb:
> 
> OK folks, still looking for a fix here.  Any ideas at all?
> 

There is a bug [1] open about this problem, unfortunately still 
unsolved! Maybe the k3b command line will help to investigate on this 
further.

[1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=213399
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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Dale]

Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
> Dale schrieb:
>>
>> OK folks, still looking for a fix here.  Any ideas at all?
>>
>
> There is a bug [1] open about this problem, unfortunately still 
> unsolved! Maybe the k3b command line will help to investigate on this 
> further.
>
> [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=213399

If you saw the post on the thread referenced on the bug, the last post 
was mine.  I'm dalek on the forums.  At least now I know it is not still 
just me. 

I wonder if cdrkit has this issue?  Think it would be worth a shot?

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Daniel Pielmeier]

Dale schrieb:
> Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
>> Dale schrieb:
>>>
>>> OK folks, still looking for a fix here.  Any ideas at all?
>>>
>>
>> There is a bug [1] open about this problem, unfortunately still 
>> unsolved! Maybe the k3b command line will help to investigate on this 
>> further.
>>
>> [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=213399
> 
> If you saw the post on the thread referenced on the bug, the last post 
> was mine.  I'm dalek on the forums.  At least now I know it is not still 
> just me.
> I wonder if cdrkit has this issue?  Think it would be worth a shot?
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-)

I think it is also possible that there is something with k3b as 
everybody with this problem is using k3b. I burn my DVD's on the command 
line.

Here is some information from a video-dvd:

ISO-creation:
mkisofs -dvd-video -udf -R -iso-level 1 -v -volid DVD_VIDEO -sysid LINUX 
-no-cache-inodes -input-charset utf-8 -o ../dvd-video.iso ./

Burning:
cdrecord dev=0,1,0 speed=8 driveropts=burnfree fs=16m -sao -eject -v 
dvd-video.iso

Mount:
/dev/sr0 on /media/DVD_VIDEO type udf (ro,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000)

Mount Point:
dr-xr-xr-x  4 billie root   136 11. Jul 23:03 DVD_VIDEO

The DVD is auto mounted by xfce-extra/thunar-volman which uses hal.


When k3b finishes you can get the command line used by k3b, maybe you 
can post it.

Regards,

Daniel
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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Dale]

Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
>
> < SNIP >
>
> When k3b finishes you can get the command line used by k3b, maybe you 
> can post it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Daniel

This is what I got with some stuff snipped:

System
-----------------------
K3b Version: 1.0.5

KDE Version: 3.5.9
QT Version:  3.3.8
Kernel:      2.6.23-gentoo-r8
Devices
-----------------------
HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8520B 1.03 (/dev/hdc, ) [CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM] 
[CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW] [SAO, TAO, RAW, SAO/R96P, SAO/R96R, RAW/R16, 
RAW/R96P, RAW/R96R]

Optiarc DVD RW AD-7200A 1.05 (/dev/hdd, ) [CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, 
DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD-R DL, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+R DL] [DVD-ROM, DVD-R 
Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Jump, DVD-RAM, 
DVD-RW Restricted Overwrite, DVD-RW Sequential, DVD+RW, DVD+R, DVD+R 
Dual Layer, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW] [SAO, TAO, RAW, SAO/R96P, SAO/R96R, 
RAW/R16, RAW/R96P, RAW/R96R, Restricted Overwrite, Layer Jump]
Burned media
-----------------------
DVD+RW

K3bIsoImager
-----------------------
mkisofs print size result: 949463 (1944500224 bytes)
Pipe throughput: 1944500224 bytes read, 1944500224 bytes written.

Used versions
-----------------------
mkisofs: 2.1.1a34
growisofs: 7.1

growisofs
-----------------------
WARNING: /dev/hdd already carries isofs!
About to execute 'builtin_dd if=/dev/fd/0 of=/dev/hdd obs=32k seek=0'
/dev/hdd: "Current Write Speed" is 4.1x1352KBps.
    1802240/1944500224 ( 0.1%) @0.4x, remaining 107:47 RBU 100.0% UBU   2.6%


<<SNIP >>


 1940652032/1944500224 (99.8%) @4.0x, remaining 0:00 RBU  11.5% UBU  92.1%
/dev/hdd: flushing cache
/dev/hdd: stopping de-icing
/dev/hdd: writing lead-out

growisofs command:
-----------------------
/usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdd=/dev/fd/0 -use-the-force-luke=notray 
-use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=tracksize:949463 -speed=4 
-use-the-force-luke=bufsize:32m

mkisofs
-----------------------
/usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot write inode/link information with 
-no-cache-inodes.
/usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot write inode/link information with 
-no-cache-inodes.
949463
/usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot write inode/link information with 
-no-cache-inodes.
Setting input-charset to 'ISO-8859-1' from locale.
  0.05% done, estimate finish Mon Jul 14 17:09:09 2008

<< SNIP >>


99.95% done, estimate finish Mon Jul 14 17:15:00 2008
Total translation table size: 0
Total rockridge attributes bytes: 274
Total directory bytes: 410
Path table size(bytes): 10
Max brk space used 21000
949463 extents written (1854 MB)

mkisofs calculate size command:
-----------------------
/usr/bin/mkisofs -gui -graft-points -print-size -quiet -volid 
portage_2008.07.10-14.27.04_1 -volset  -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR (C) 
1998-2006 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND THE K3B TEAM -publisher  -preparer  -sysid 
LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-dale/k3b70xvFb.tmp 
-rock -hide-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bLAIDcb.tmp -joliet -joliet-long 
-hide-joliet-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bq877Nb.tmp -no-cache-inodes -udf 
-full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 3 -path-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bcAO9ob.tmp

mkisofs command:
-----------------------
/usr/bin/mkisofs -gui -graft-points -volid portage_2008.07.10-14.27.04_1 
-volset  -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR (C) 1998-2006 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND THE 
K3B TEAM -publisher  -preparer  -sysid LINUX -volset-size 1 
-volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-dale/k3bkZHkea.tmp -rock -hide-list 
/tmp/kde-dale/k3bUYZsub.tmp -joliet -joliet-long -hide-joliet-list 
/tmp/kde-dale/k3b0CIaDb.tmp -no-cache-inodes -udf 
-full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 3 -path-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bE3YvNb.tmp

I use command line stuff from time to time but that appears to be one 
heck of a command.  O_O  See anything wrong with it?  Think another 
version of k3b would help?

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Joerg Schilling]

Dale <dalek1967@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> mkisofs
> -----------------------
> /usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot write inode/link information with 
> -no-cache-inodes.
> /usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot write inode/link information with 
> -no-cache-inodes.
> 949463
> /usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot write inode/link information with 
> -no-cache-inodes.
> Setting input-charset to 'ISO-8859-1' from locale.
>   0.05% done, estimate finish Mon Jul 14 17:09:09 2008

If you explicitly tell mkisofs to do something unreasonable, you should be 
prepared for any results.

Using -no-cache-inodes is a really bad idea!

With -praft-points, you may cause many strange things.

2.01.01a34 is nearly a year old, you should use a recent version.

In general, the k3b command line does not look reasonable. 

When using -udf instead of -UDF, it should be impossible to get file/dir
permissions that differ from the default values.

If you are not able to make the problem reproducable at my side, I have no idea 
how to help.

Did you try to mount the DVD on Solaris and this way verify that the problem is 
not in the Linux kernel?

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Dale]

Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Dale <dalek1967@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>   
>> mkisofs
>> -----------------------
>> /usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot write inode/link information with 
>> -no-cache-inodes.
>> /usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot write inode/link information with 
>> -no-cache-inodes.
>> 949463
>> /usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot write inode/link information with 
>> -no-cache-inodes.
>> Setting input-charset to 'ISO-8859-1' from locale.
>>   0.05% done, estimate finish Mon Jul 14 17:09:09 2008
>>     
>
> If you explicitly tell mkisofs to do something unreasonable, you should be 
> prepared for any results.
>   

I didn't tell it tho, k3b did. 
> Using -no-cache-inodes is a really bad idea!
>
> With -praft-points, you may cause many strange things.
>   

I'll see if I can force k3b to change those settings.  I think I saw 
them in the custom command part.
> 2.01.01a34 is nearly a year old, you should use a recent version.
>   

I just used the latest stable version but will try the latest next and 
see if that helps any.
> In general, the k3b command line does not look reasonable. 
>
> When using -udf instead of -UDF, it should be impossible to get file/dir
> permissions that differ from the default values.
>
> If you are not able to make the problem reproducable at my side, I have no idea 
> how to help.
>
> Did you try to mount the DVD on Solaris and this way verify that the problem is 
> not in the Linux kernel?
>
> Jörg
>
>   

I don't have anything that runs Solaris so I am not able to test with it. 

Thanks.  Will report back.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Dale]

Dale wrote:
> Joerg Schilling wrote:
>> Dale <dalek1967@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>>  
>>> mkisofs
>>> -----------------------
>>> /usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot write inode/link information with 
>>> -no-cache-inodes.
>>> /usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot write inode/link information with 
>>> -no-cache-inodes.
>>> 949463
>>> /usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot write inode/link information with 
>>> -no-cache-inodes.
>>> Setting input-charset to 'ISO-8859-1' from locale.
>>>   0.05% done, estimate finish Mon Jul 14 17:09:09 2008
>>>     
>>
>> If you explicitly tell mkisofs to do something unreasonable, you 
>> should be prepared for any results.
>>   
>
> I didn't tell it tho, k3b did.
>> Using -no-cache-inodes is a really bad idea!
>>
>> With -praft-points, you may cause many strange things.
>>   
>
> I'll see if I can force k3b to change those settings.  I think I saw 
> them in the custom command part.

I unchecked the part on using inodes but still no change that I can see.

>> 2.01.01a34 is nearly a year old, you should use a recent version.
>>   
>
> I just used the latest stable version but will try the latest next and 
> see if that helps any.

Upgraded to cdrtools-2.01.01_alpha42 but no change. 


>> In general, the k3b command line does not look reasonable.
>> When using -udf instead of -UDF, it should be impossible to get file/dir
>> permissions that differ from the default values.
>>
>> If you are not able to make the problem reproducable at my side, I 
>> have no idea how to help.
>>
>> Did you try to mount the DVD on Solaris and this way verify that the 
>> problem is not in the Linux kernel?
>>
>> Jörg
>>
>>   
>
> I don't have anything that runs Solaris so I am not able to test with it.
> Thanks.  Will report back.

This is the new output from k3b just in case:

System
-----------------------
K3b Version: 1.0.5

KDE Version: 3.5.9
QT Version:  3.3.8
Kernel:      2.6.23-gentoo-r8
Devices
-----------------------
HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8520B 1.03 (/dev/hdc, ) [CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM] 
[CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW] [SAO, TAO, RAW, SAO/R96P, SAO/R96R, RAW/R16, 
RAW/R96P, RAW/R96R]

Optiarc DVD RW AD-7200A 1.05 (/dev/hdd, ) [CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, 
DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD-R DL, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+R DL] [DVD-ROM, DVD-R 
Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Jump, DVD-RAM, 
DVD-RW Restricted Overwrite, DVD-RW Sequential, DVD+RW, DVD+R, DVD+R 
Dual Layer, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW] [SAO, TAO, RAW, SAO/R96P, SAO/R96R, 
RAW/R16, RAW/R96P, RAW/R96R, Restricted Overwrite, Layer Jump]
Burned media
-----------------------
DVD+RW

K3bIsoImager
-----------------------
mkisofs print size result: 949463 (1944500224 bytes)
Pipe throughput: 1944500224 bytes read, 1944500224 bytes written.

Used versions
-----------------------
mkisofs: 2.1.1a42
growisofs: 7.1

growisofs
-----------------------
About to execute 'builtin_dd if=/dev/fd/0 of=/dev/hdd obs=32k seek=0'
WARNING: /dev/hdd already carries isofs!
/dev/hdd: "Current Write Speed" is 4.1x1352KBps.
   12058624/1944500224 ( 0.6%) @2.6x, remaining 13:21 RBU 100.0% UBU   2.6%


<<  SNIP  >>


1932361728/1944500224 (99.4%) @4.0x, remaining 0:02 RBU  36.2% UBU  92.1%
/dev/hdd: flushing cache
/dev/hdd: stopping de-icing
/dev/hdd: writing lead-out

growisofs command:
-----------------------
/usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdd=/dev/fd/0 -use-the-force-luke=notray 
-use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=tracksize:949463 -speed=4 
-use-the-force-luke=bufsize:32m

mkisofs
-----------------------
949463
Setting input-charset to 'ISO-8859-1' from locale.
  0.05% done, estimate finish Mon Jul 14 19:28:07 2008


<< SNIP >>


99.95% done, estimate finish Mon Jul 14 19:33:56 2008
Total translation table size: 0
Total rockridge attributes bytes: 298
Total directory bytes: 0
Path table size(bytes): 10
Max brk space used 21000
949463 extents written (1854 MB)

mkisofs calculate size command:
-----------------------
/usr/bin/mkisofs -gui -graft-points -print-size -quiet -volid 
portage_2008.07.10-14.27.04_1 -volset  -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR (C) 
1998-2006 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND THE K3B TEAM -publisher  -preparer  -sysid 
LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-dale/k3b6Q2xLa.tmp 
-rock -hide-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bf41Cba.tmp -joliet -joliet-long 
-hide-joliet-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bpgLcxb.tmp -udf 
-full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 3 -path-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3b4KzQya.tmp

mkisofs command:
-----------------------
/usr/bin/mkisofs -gui -graft-points -volid portage_2008.07.10-14.27.04_1 
-volset  -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR (C) 1998-2006 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND THE 
K3B TEAM -publisher  -preparer  -sysid LINUX -volset-size 1 
-volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-dale/k3b4So7Xa.tmp -rock -hide-list 
/tmp/kde-dale/k3bVuipwb.tmp -joliet -joliet-long -hide-joliet-list 
/tmp/kde-dale/k3b37kyWb.tmp -udf -full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 3 
-path-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bzJNImb.tmp

You, or anybody else, notice anything strange, odd and/or just plain 
wrong?  Would a different version of k3b help?  I'm not sure what is 
causing this problem just that I have one.  I would also be willing to 
try a command line if you can provide me with the 'correct' options to 
test with. 

Thanks.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Joerg Schilling]

Dale <dalek1967@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Upgraded to cdrtools-2.01.01_alpha42 but no change. 

Note that I fixed some problems with the permissions of "." and ".."
with cdrtools-2.01.01a43 that happen on Linux only because some Linux 
filesystem implementations return the entries for "." and ".." "out of order".


> mkisofs command:
> -----------------------
> /usr/bin/mkisofs -gui -graft-points -volid portage_2008.07.10-14.27.04_1 
> -volset  -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR (C) 1998-2006 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND THE 
> K3B TEAM -publisher  -preparer  -sysid LINUX -volset-size 1 
> -volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-dale/k3b4So7Xa.tmp -rock -hide-list 
> /tmp/kde-dale/k3bVuipwb.tmp -joliet -joliet-long -hide-joliet-list 
> /tmp/kde-dale/k3b37kyWb.tmp -udf -full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 3 
> -path-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bzJNImb.tmp
>
> You, or anybody else, notice anything strange, odd and/or just plain 
> wrong?  Would a different version of k3b help?  I'm not sure what is 
> causing this problem just that I have one.  I would also be willing to 
> try a command line if you can provide me with the 'correct' options to 
> test with. 

Without knowing the content of the files, it is not possible to say more about 
the command line.

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Dale]

Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Dale <dalek1967@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>   
>> Upgraded to cdrtools-2.01.01_alpha42 but no change. 
>>     
>
> Note that I fixed some problems with the permissions of "." and ".."
> with cdrtools-2.01.01a43 that happen on Linux only because some Linux 
> filesystem implementations return the entries for "." and ".." "out of order".
>
>
>   
>> mkisofs command:
>> -----------------------
>> /usr/bin/mkisofs -gui -graft-points -volid portage_2008.07.10-14.27.04_1 
>> -volset  -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR (C) 1998-2006 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND THE 
>> K3B TEAM -publisher  -preparer  -sysid LINUX -volset-size 1 
>> -volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-dale/k3b4So7Xa.tmp -rock -hide-list 
>> /tmp/kde-dale/k3bVuipwb.tmp -joliet -joliet-long -hide-joliet-list 
>> /tmp/kde-dale/k3b37kyWb.tmp -udf -full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 3 
>> -path-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bzJNImb.tmp
>>
>> You, or anybody else, notice anything strange, odd and/or just plain 
>> wrong?  Would a different version of k3b help?  I'm not sure what is 
>> causing this problem just that I have one.  I would also be willing to 
>> try a command line if you can provide me with the 'correct' options to 
>> test with. 
>>     
>
> Without knowing the content of the files, it is not possible to say more about 
> the command line.
>
> Jörg
>
>   

The content if the DVD is /usr/portage including distfiles.  I'm on 
dial-up so having a copy that is somewhat up to date is a 'good idea'.  
Also note, Konqueror as root works but not as a user.  I can also get 
there by command line. 

Can you recommend a gentoo-sources kernel version that you know from 
yourself or others will work?  I'm willing to compile one and give it a 
shot.  I am currently using linux-2.6.23-gentoo-r8/ but also tried 
linux-2.6.24-gentoo-r8 with no change.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Daniel Pielmeier]

>
> You, or anybody else, notice anything strange, odd and/or just plain wrong?
> Would a different version of k3b help?  I'm not sure what is causing this
> problem just that I have one.  I would also be willing to try a command line
> if you can provide me with the 'correct' options to test with.
> Thanks.

I did a bit testing last night and found out that the files and
directories in the resulting images created by mkisofs all have
permissions 000. What I see from the man pages is that the -udf and -r
options are setting the user and group permissions to zero. When I
used -UDF and -R instead I also get zero values. I checked this by
using isoinfo to analyse the files within the image.

This however there seems to be no problem for me as the DVD's are
automounted with permissions 555 for folders and 444 for files.

So what is the problem here, mkisofs creating images with wrong
permissions, or this permissions are normal and some automounter or
mount in general are/is mounting the DVD with wrong permissions
probably with interference of the udf kernel driver.
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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Joerg Schilling]

"Daniel Pielmeier" <daniel.pielmeier@googlemail.com> wrote:

> >
> > You, or anybody else, notice anything strange, odd and/or just plain wrong?
> > Would a different version of k3b help?  I'm not sure what is causing this
> > problem just that I have one.  I would also be willing to try a command line
> > if you can provide me with the 'correct' options to test with.
> > Thanks.
>
> I did a bit testing last night and found out that the files and
> directories in the resulting images created by mkisofs all have
> permissions 000. What I see from the man pages is that the -udf and -r
> options are setting the user and group permissions to zero. When I
> used -UDF and -R instead I also get zero values. I checked this by
> using isoinfo to analyse the files within the image.
>
> This however there seems to be no problem for me as the DVD's are
> automounted with permissions 555 for folders and 444 for files.
>
> So what is the problem here, mkisofs creating images with wrong
> permissions, or this permissions are normal and some automounter or
> mount in general are/is mounting the DVD with wrong permissions
> probably with interference of the udf kernel driver.

UDF permissions created by mkisofs have been verified by mounting the images on 
Solaris. As I could not see any deviations from the original permissions, I 
suspect a problem in the Linux kernel.

If you have no Solaris, it could help to make a mount test with a Rock Ridge 
mount. If the permissions are OK with Rock Ridge, then is is a bug in the UDF 
implementation in the Linux kernel.

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Daniel Pielmeier]

2008/7/15, Joerg Schilling <Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de>:
> > I did a bit testing last night and found out that the files and
> > directories in the resulting images created by mkisofs all have
> > permissions 000. What I see from the man pages is that the -udf and -r
> > options are setting the user and group permissions to zero. When I
> > used -UDF and -R instead I also get zero values. I checked this by
> > using isoinfo to analyse the files within the image.
> >
> > This however there seems to be no problem for me as the DVD's are
> > automounted with permissions 555 for folders and 444 for files.
> >
> > So what is the problem here, mkisofs creating images with wrong
> > permissions, or this permissions are normal and some automounter or
> > mount in general are/is mounting the DVD with wrong permissions
> > probably with interference of the udf kernel driver.
>
> UDF permissions created by mkisofs have been verified by mounting the images on
> Solaris. As I could not see any deviations from the original permissions, I
> suspect a problem in the Linux kernel.
>
> If you have no Solaris, it could help to make a mount test with a Rock Ridge
> mount. If the permissions are OK with Rock Ridge, then is is a bug in the UDF
> implementation in the Linux kernel.

I have opensolaris in a virtual machine but i don't think this is
enough to verify it correctly, so i will try the rock ridge mount.
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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Joerg Schilling]

"Daniel Pielmeier" <daniel.pielmeier@googlemail.com> wrote:

> > UDF permissions created by mkisofs have been verified by mounting the images on
> > Solaris. As I could not see any deviations from the original permissions, I
> > suspect a problem in the Linux kernel.
> >
> > If you have no Solaris, it could help to make a mount test with a Rock Ridge
> > mount. If the permissions are OK with Rock Ridge, then is is a bug in the UDF
> > implementation in the Linux kernel.
>
> I have opensolaris in a virtual machine but i don't think this is
> enough to verify it correctly, so i will try the rock ridge mount.

This is sufficient, just copy the image into the virtual machine, set up a 
"lofi" device for the image and then call mount -F udfs ....

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Daniel Pielmeier]

2008/7/15, Joerg Schilling <Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de>:
> "Daniel Pielmeier" <daniel.pielmeier@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > UDF permissions created by mkisofs have been verified by mounting the images on
> > > Solaris. As I could not see any deviations from the original permissions, I
> > > suspect a problem in the Linux kernel.
> > >
> > > If you have no Solaris, it could help to make a mount test with a Rock Ridge
> > > mount. If the permissions are OK with Rock Ridge, then is is a bug in the UDF
> > > implementation in the Linux kernel.
> >
> > I have opensolaris in a virtual machine but i don't think this is
> > enough to verify it correctly, so i will try the rock ridge mount.
>
> This is sufficient, just copy the image into the virtual machine, set up a
> "lofi" device for the image and then call mount -F udfs ....
>

I have set up the machine recently, and I think there is now way to
share files between Host and Guest OS in Virtualbox when the guest is
Solaris. So I will burn the Live CD and try it within the Live CD.
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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Joerg Schilling]

"Daniel Pielmeier" <daniel.pielmeier@googlemail.com> wrote:

> 2008/7/15, Joerg Schilling <Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de>:
> > "Daniel Pielmeier" <daniel.pielmeier@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > UDF permissions created by mkisofs have been verified by mounting the images on
> > > > Solaris. As I could not see any deviations from the original permissions, I
> > > > suspect a problem in the Linux kernel.
> > > >
> > > > If you have no Solaris, it could help to make a mount test with a Rock Ridge
> > > > mount. If the permissions are OK with Rock Ridge, then is is a bug in the UDF
> > > > implementation in the Linux kernel.
> > >
> > > I have opensolaris in a virtual machine but i don't think this is
> > > enough to verify it correctly, so i will try the rock ridge mount.
> >
> > This is sufficient, just copy the image into the virtual machine, set up a
> > "lofi" device for the image and then call mount -F udfs ....
> >
>
> I have set up the machine recently, and I think there is now way to
> share files between Host and Guest OS in Virtualbox when the guest is
> Solaris. So I will burn the Live CD and try it within the Live CD.

Any virtualization solution I know supports at least scp or ftp to
bring in files.

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Daniel Pielmeier]

2008/7/15, Joerg Schilling <Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de>:

> >
> > I have set up the machine recently, and I think there is now way to
> > share files between Host and Guest OS in Virtualbox when the guest is
> > Solaris. So I will burn the Live CD and try it within the Live CD.
>
> Any virtualization solution I know supports at least scp or ftp to
> bring in files.

Thanks I will try this first!
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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Daniel Pielmeier]

I think I don't need testing on an other OS. It is working flawless 
here. I have created to iso-images one as data and the other one as 
video with the following calls:

VIDEO:
mkisofs -dvd-video -UDF -R -iso-level 1 -v -volid DVD_VIDEO -sysid LINUX 
-input-charset utf-8 -o ../dvd-video.iso ./

DATA:
mkisofs -UDF -R -iso-level 1 -v -volid DVD_DATA -sysid LINUX 
-input-charset utf-8 -o ../dvd-data.iso ./

I created to mount-points where only root has permissions

ls -al ./

drwxr-xr-x  4 billie users        72 15. Jul 18:29 .
drwx------ 16 billie users      8192 15. Jul 18:22 ..
-rw-r--r--  1 billie users 142530560 15. Jul 18:26 dvd-data.iso
-rw-r--r--  1 billie users 142587904 15. Jul 18:25 dvd-video.iso
drwx------  2 root   root          1 15. Jul 18:29 mount-data
drwx------  2 root   root          1 15. Jul 18:29 mount-video

Then I mounted both the data and the video image as udf and as iso9660

mount -o loop -t udf dvd-video.iso mount-video/
ls -al mount-video/

drwxr-xr-x 4 billie users 136 15. Jul 18:24 .
drwxr-xr-x 4 billie users  72 15. Jul 18:29 ..
drwxr-xr-x 2 billie users  40 15. Jul 18:24 AUDIO_TS
drwxr-xr-x 2 billie users 300 15. Jul 18:24 VIDEO_TS


mount -o loop -t iso9660 dvd-video.iso mount-video/
ls -al mount-video/

drwxr-xr-x 4 billie users 2048 15. Jul 18:24 .
drwxr-xr-x 4 billie users   72 15. Jul 18:29 ..
drwxr-xr-x 2 billie users 2048 15. Jul 18:24 AUDIO_TS
drwxr-xr-x 2 billie users 2048 15. Jul 18:24 VIDEO_TS


mount -o loop -t udf dvd-data.iso mount-data
ls -al mount-data

drwxr-xr-x 2 billie users        92 15. Jul 18:26 .
drwxr-xr-x 4 billie users        72 15. Jul 18:29 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 billie users 141672448 15. Jul 18:21 001_cut.mpg


mount -o loop -t iso9660 dvd-data.iso mount-data
ls -al mount-data

drwxr-xr-x 2 billie users      2048 15. Jul 18:26 .
drwxr-xr-x 4 billie users        72 15. Jul 18:29 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 billie users 141672448 15. Jul 18:21 001_cut.mpg

Everything works perfect and the old permissions of the files and 
folders have been restored.

It was jst isoinfo which did not show the permissions:

isoinfo -l -i dvd-data.iso

Directory listing of /
d---------   0    0    0       2048 Jul 15 2008 [    266 02] .
d---------   0    0    0       2048 Jul 15 2008 [    266 02] ..
----------   0    0    0  141672448 Jul 15 2008 [    268 00] 001_CUT.MPG;1


isoinfo -l -i dvd-video.iso

Directory listing of /
d---------   0    0    0       2048 Jul 15 2008 [    274 02] .
d---------   0    0    0       2048 Jul 15 2008 [    274 02] ..
d---------   0    0    0       2048 Jul 15 2008 [    275 02] AUDIO_TS
d---------   0    0    0       2048 Jul 15 2008 [    276 02] VIDEO_TS

Directory listing of /AUDIO_TS/
d---------   0    0    0       2048 Jul 15 2008 [    275 02] .
d---------   0    0    0       2048 Jul 15 2008 [    274 02] ..

Directory listing of /VIDEO_TS/
d---------   0    0    0       2048 Jul 15 2008 [    276 02] .
d---------   0    0    0       2048 Jul 15 2008 [    274 02] ..
----------   0    0    0       6144 Jul 15 2008 [    281 00] VIDEO_TS.BUP;1
----------   0    0    0       6144 Jul 15 2008 [    278 00] VIDEO_TS.IFO;1
----------   0    0    0      12288 Jul 15 2008 [  69466 00] VTS_01_0.BUP;1
----------   0    0    0      12288 Jul 15 2008 [    284 00] VTS_01_0.IFO;1
----------   0    0    0  141672448 Jul 15 2008 [    290 00] VTS_01_1.VOB;1

So I also guess this has to be a problem with hal, udev, k3b or even 
growisofs. The strange thing is that it works manually mounted as 
iso9960 and not as udf filesystem. So it does not look like a mounting 
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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Joerg Schilling]

Daniel Pielmeier <daniel.pielmeier@googlemail.com> wrote:

> It was jst isoinfo which did not show the permissions:
>
> isoinfo -l -i dvd-data.iso
>
> Directory listing of /
> d---------   0    0    0       2048 Jul 15 2008 [    266 02] .
> d---------   0    0    0       2048 Jul 15 2008 [    266 02] ..
> ----------   0    0    0  141672448 Jul 15 2008 [    268 00] 001_CUT.MPG;1

isoinfo does not understand UDF and if you don't tell it to use Rock Ridge, 
it will be limited to the missing permissions from plain ISO-9660

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Daniel Pielmeier]

Joerg Schilling schrieb:
> Daniel Pielmeier <daniel.pielmeier@googlemail.com> wrote:
> 
>> It was jst isoinfo which did not show the permissions:
>>
>> isoinfo -l -i dvd-data.iso
>>
>> Directory listing of /
>> d---------   0    0    0       2048 Jul 15 2008 [    266 02] .
>> d---------   0    0    0       2048 Jul 15 2008 [    266 02] ..
>> ----------   0    0    0  141672448 Jul 15 2008 [    268 00] 001_CUT.MPG;1
> 
> isoinfo does not understand UDF and if you don't tell it to use Rock Ridge, 
> it will be limited to the missing permissions from plain ISO-9660
> 
> Jörg
> 

You are right something like this "isoinfo -l -R -i dvd-video.iso" did 
the trick. The -R flag prints the informations from the rock ridge 
extension.

By the way would you recommend those commands for creating dvd-video 
material, or should there be something changed. I mean it should be most 
compatible. Playable on PC and standalone players and different 
operating systems.

Iso creation:
mkisofs -dvd-video -UDF -R -iso-level 1 -v -volid DVD_VIDEO -sysid LINUX 
-input-charset utf-8 -o ../dvd-video.iso ./

Burning:
cdrecord dev=0,1,0 speed=8 driveropts=burnfree fs=16m -sao -eject -v 
dvd-video.iso

Regards,

daniel
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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Joerg Schilling]

Daniel Pielmeier <daniel.pielmeier@googlemail.com> wrote:

> By the way would you recommend those commands for creating dvd-video 
> material, or should there be something changed. I mean it should be most 
> compatible. Playable on PC and standalone players and different 
> operating systems.
>
> Iso creation:
> mkisofs -dvd-video -UDF -R -iso-level 1 -v -volid DVD_VIDEO -sysid LINUX 
> -input-charset utf-8 -o ../dvd-video.iso ./

Why do you like to do things like: -sysid LINUX that are default?

Why do you use things like: -input-charset utf-8 which is may be wrong
and which is by default handled correctly by mkisofs?

Why do you like to use iso level 1?

> Burning:
> cdrecord dev=0,1,0 speed=8 driveropts=burnfree fs=16m -sao -eject -v 
> dvd-video.iso

If you only have one drive, you may omit the dev= parameter.
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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Daniel Pielmeier]

2008/7/16, Joerg Schilling <Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de>:
> Daniel Pielmeier <daniel.pielmeier@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > By the way would you recommend those commands for creating dvd-video
> > material, or should there be something changed. I mean it should be most
> > compatible. Playable on PC and standalone players and different
> > operating systems.
> >
> > Iso creation:
> > mkisofs -dvd-video -UDF -R -iso-level 1 -v -volid DVD_VIDEO -sysid LINUX
> > -input-charset utf-8 -o ../dvd-video.iso ./
>
> Why do you like to do things like: -sysid LINUX that are default?

Okay so I leave this out.

> Why do you use things like: -input-charset utf-8 which is may be wrong
> and which is by default handled correctly by mkisofs?

I use utf-8 on my system, so i thought it is correct.

Can you please explain me what are $INS_BASE/lib/profiled
$INS_BASE/lib/siconv for. These two directories are not installed by
the gentoo installation. I ask this because I guess the siconv folder
has something to do with the locales. When I for example specify an
unknown locale mkisofs is complaining about a missing
$INS_BASE/lib/siconv folder.

> Why do you like to use iso level 1?

I thought it is enough for the DVD file structure.

From the manpage:
With level 1, files may only consist of one section and filenames are
restricted to 8.3 characters.

AUDIO_TS
VIDEO_TS
   VIDEO_TS.BUP
   VIDEO_TS.IFO
   VIDEO_TS.VOB
   VTS_01_0.BUP
   VTS_01_0.IFO
   VTS_01_0.VOB
   VTS_01_1.VOB
   VTS_01_2.VOB

For this file names ISO-Level 1 maybe sufficient, or am I wrong?

> > Burning:
> > cdrecord dev=0,1,0 speed=8 driveropts=burnfree fs=16m -sao -eject -v
> > dvd-video.iso
>
> If you only have one drive, you may omit the dev= parameter.
> Jörg

I have two DVD drives so I think it is needed!

Thanks,

Daniel

Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Joerg Schilling]

"Daniel Pielmeier" <daniel.pielmeier@googlemail.com> wrote:

> > Why do you use things like: -input-charset utf-8 which is may be wrong
> > and which is by default handled correctly by mkisofs?
>
> I use utf-8 on my system, so i thought it is correct.
>
> Can you please explain me what are $INS_BASE/lib/profiled
> $INS_BASE/lib/siconv for. These two directories are not installed by
> the gentoo installation. I ask this because I guess the siconv folder
> has something to do with the locales. When I for example specify an
> unknown locale mkisofs is complaining about a missing
> $INS_BASE/lib/siconv folder.

This is correct, your installation is incomplete.

Mkisofs cannot work correctly in all cases if siconv data is missing.

When I replaced the old libunls code by libsiconv more than a year ago, 
there was a verbose instruction in the announcement file. I thought that 
any maintainer would read this and update his install procedures...

If you omit -input-charset, mkisofs will chose the right values.


> > Why do you like to use iso level 1?
>
> I thought it is enough for the DVD file structure.
>
> From the manpage:
> With level 1, files may only consist of one section and filenames are
> restricted to 8.3 characters.
>
> AUDIO_TS
> VIDEO_TS
>    VIDEO_TS.BUP
>    VIDEO_TS.IFO
>    VIDEO_TS.VOB
>    VTS_01_0.BUP
>    VTS_01_0.IFO
>    VTS_01_0.VOB
>    VTS_01_1.VOB
>    VTS_01_2.VOB
>
> For this file names ISO-Level 1 maybe sufficient, or am I wrong?

Well, level 1 is default too ;-)

> > > Burning:
> > > cdrecord dev=0,1,0 speed=8 driveropts=burnfree fs=16m -sao -eject -v
> > > dvd-video.iso
> >
> > If you only have one drive, you may omit the dev= parameter.
> > Jörg
>
> I have two DVD drives so I think it is needed!

Correct (but you may create /etc/default/cdrecord with the right content to 
default to the drive you usually like to use).


> Thanks,
>
> Daniel
> ??????z?b?? z{h???????x%

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Daniel Pielmeier]

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2008/7/16, Joerg Schilling <Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de>:
> >
> > I use utf-8 on my system, so i thought it is correct.
> >
> > Can you please explain me what are $INS_BASE/lib/profiled
> > $INS_BASE/lib/siconv for. These two directories are not installed by
> > the gentoo installation. I ask this because I guess the siconv folder
> > has something to do with the locales. When I for example specify an
> > unknown locale mkisofs is complaining about a missing
> > $INS_BASE/lib/siconv folder.
>
> This is correct, your installation is incomplete.
>
> Mkisofs cannot work correctly in all cases if siconv data is missing.
>
> When I replaced the old libunls code by libsiconv more than a year ago,
> there was a verbose instruction in the announcement file. I thought that
> any maintainer would read this and update his install procedures...
>
> If you omit -input-charset, mkisofs will chose the right values.

I have a bug open addressing this and a few other things. Do you
remember the Announcement file, so I can add this information to the
bug! If not i will delve through the files myself.

Can you give me information about the $INS_BASE/lib/profiled folder
too. I mean the contents beside the size of the files are the same as
in $INS_BASE/lib/.

> > > Why do you like to use iso level 1?
> >
> > I thought it is enough for the DVD file structure.
> >
> > From the manpage:
> > With level 1, files may only consist of one section and filenames are
> > restricted to 8.3 characters.
> >
> > AUDIO_TS
> > VIDEO_TS
> >    VIDEO_TS.BUP
> >    VIDEO_TS.IFO
> >    VIDEO_TS.VOB
> >    VTS_01_0.BUP
> >    VTS_01_0.IFO
> >    VTS_01_0.VOB
> >    VTS_01_1.VOB
> >    VTS_01_2.VOB
> >
> > For this file names ISO-Level 1 maybe sufficient, or am I wrong?
>
> Well, level 1 is default too ;-)

okay :-)

> > > > Burning:
> > > > cdrecord dev=0,1,0 speed=8 driveropts=burnfree fs=16m -sao -eject -v
> > > > dvd-video.iso
> > >
> > > If you only have one drive, you may omit the dev= parameter.
> > > Jörg
> >
> > I have two DVD drives so I think it is needed!
>
> Correct (but you may create /etc/default/cdrecord with the right content to
> default to the drive you usually like to use).
>

I think I prefer passing it at the command line.

Regards,

Daniel
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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Joerg Schilling]

"Daniel Pielmeier" <daniel.pielmeier@googlemail.com> wrote:

> > > unknown locale mkisofs is complaining about a missing
> > > $INS_BASE/lib/siconv folder.
> >
> > This is correct, your installation is incomplete.
> >
> > Mkisofs cannot work correctly in all cases if siconv data is missing.
> >
> > When I replaced the old libunls code by libsiconv more than a year ago,
> > there was a verbose instruction in the announcement file. I thought that
> > any maintainer would read this and update his install procedures...
> >
> > If you omit -input-charset, mkisofs will chose the right values.
>
> I have a bug open addressing this and a few other things. Do you
> remember the Announcement file, so I can add this information to the
> bug! If not i will delve through the files myself.

Mmmm, don't you know "grep"?

> Can you give me information about the $INS_BASE/lib/profiled folder
> too. I mean the contents beside the size of the files are the same as
> in $INS_BASE/lib/.

in profiles/ you find developer libs in case you like to use the BSD code 
profiler "gprof". Whether you like to install them depends on what you like to 
do.

$INS_BASE/lib/siconv is mandatory and documented (see AN-* files).

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Daniel Pielmeier]

2008/7/17, Joerg Schilling <Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de>:
> >
> > I have a bug open addressing this and a few other things. Do you
> > remember the Announcement file, so I can add this information to the
> > bug! If not i will delve through the files myself.
>
> Mmmm, don't you know "grep"?

s/delve/grep/ :-)
I searched for it yesterday evening, when asking for the file I had no
cdrtools-sources at hand.

> > Can you give me information about the $INS_BASE/lib/profiled folder
> > too. I mean the contents beside the size of the files are the same as
> > in $INS_BASE/lib/.
>
> in profiles/ you find developer libs in case you like to use the BSD code
> profiler "gprof". Whether you like to install them depends on what you like to
> do.
>

Thanks for the clarification!

Daniel
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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Joerg Schilling]

Dale <dalek1967@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> >> /usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot write inode/link information with 
> >> -no-cache-inodes.
> >> Setting input-charset to 'ISO-8859-1' from locale.
> >>   0.05% done, estimate finish Mon Jul 14 17:09:09 2008
> >>     
> >
> > If you explicitly tell mkisofs to do something unreasonable, you should be 
> > prepared for any results.
> >   
>
> I didn't tell it tho, k3b did. 
> > Using -no-cache-inodes is a really bad idea!
> >
> > With -praft-points, you may cause many strange things.
> >   
>
> I'll see if I can force k3b to change those settings.  I think I saw 
> them in the custom command part.
> > 2.01.01a34 is nearly a year old, you should use a recent version.

If -no-cache-inodes canot be changed, make a bug report.

graft points are different. If done correctly, everything works as expected.
Unfortunately, the command line used by k3b is not verificable as the important 
information is hidden inside files.

> > Did you try to mount the DVD on Solaris and this way verify that the problem is 
> > not in the Linux kernel?
> >
> > Jörg
> >
> >   
>
> I don't have anything that runs Solaris so I am not able to test with it. 

You could just boot a life CD and run the test. It is important to have a 
verification firrst on where the problem is located. I did never see your 
problem with wrong dir permissions on Solaris. 

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Dale]

Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Dale <dalek1967@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>   
>>>> /usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot write inode/link information with 
>>>> -no-cache-inodes.
>>>> Setting input-charset to 'ISO-8859-1' from locale.
>>>>   0.05% done, estimate finish Mon Jul 14 17:09:09 2008
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> If you explicitly tell mkisofs to do something unreasonable, you should be 
>>> prepared for any results.
>>>   
>>>       
>> I didn't tell it tho, k3b did. 
>>     
>>> Using -no-cache-inodes is a really bad idea!
>>>
>>> With -praft-points, you may cause many strange things.
>>>   
>>>       
>> I'll see if I can force k3b to change those settings.  I think I saw 
>> them in the custom command part.
>>     
>>> 2.01.01a34 is nearly a year old, you should use a recent version.
>>>       
>
> If -no-cache-inodes canot be changed, make a bug report.
>
> graft points are different. If done correctly, everything works as expected.
> Unfortunately, the command line used by k3b is not verificable as the important 
> information is hidden inside files.
>
>   
>>> Did you try to mount the DVD on Solaris and this way verify that the problem is 
>>> not in the Linux kernel?
>>>
>>> Jörg
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>> I don't have anything that runs Solaris so I am not able to test with it. 
>>     
>
> You could just boot a life CD and run the test. It is important to have a 
> verification firrst on where the problem is located. I did never see your 
> problem with wrong dir permissions on Solaris. 
>
> Jörg
>
>   

To make sure I get what you are saying, you want me to boot a live CD 
and see if I can access it?  If so, I'm sure that would work since I 
would be root.  It works as root just not as a user.  Am I thinking 
correctly?  Sometimes I'm off in left field. 

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Joerg Schilling]

Dale <dalek1967@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
> > Dale schrieb:
> >>
> >> OK folks, still looking for a fix here.  Any ideas at all?
> >>
> >
> > There is a bug [1] open about this problem, unfortunately still 
> > unsolved! Maybe the k3b command line will help to investigate on this 
> > further.
> >
> > [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=213399

BTW: If I follow the instructions from this bug report on Solaris, I cannot 
reproduce the problem. I thus would asume a Linux Kernel Bug.

I recently read that the UDF filesystem driver in Linux has been modified.
You should first have a closer look at the Linux kernel. 

> If you saw the post on the thread referenced on the bug, the last post 
> was mine.  I'm dalek on the forums.  At least now I know it is not still 
> just me. 
>
> I wonder if cdrkit has this issue?  Think it would be worth a shot?

The mkisofs clone from cdrkit is extremely outdated and has many well known 
issues related to UTF-8 locales, UDF and Joliet extensions. I strongly 
recommend not to use it.

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Dale]

Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Dale <dalek1967@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>   
>> Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
>>     
>>> Dale schrieb:
>>>       
>>>> OK folks, still looking for a fix here.  Any ideas at all?
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> There is a bug [1] open about this problem, unfortunately still 
>>> unsolved! Maybe the k3b command line will help to investigate on this 
>>> further.
>>>
>>> [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=213399
>>>       
>
> BTW: If I follow the instructions from this bug report on Solaris, I cannot 
> reproduce the problem. I thus would asume a Linux Kernel Bug.
>
> I recently read that the UDF filesystem driver in Linux has been modified.
> You should first have a closer look at the Linux kernel. 
>
>   
>> If you saw the post on the thread referenced on the bug, the last post 
>> was mine.  I'm dalek on the forums.  At least now I know it is not still 
>> just me. 
>>
>> I wonder if cdrkit has this issue?  Think it would be worth a shot?
>>     
>
> The mkisofs clone from cdrkit is extremely outdated and has many well known 
> issues related to UTF-8 locales, UDF and Joliet extensions. I strongly 
> recommend not to use it.
>
> Jörg
>
>   

That is why I was using your package.  I was reading another thread you 
were posting too as well. 

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Joerg Schilling]

Dale <dalek1967@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
> > Dale schrieb:
> >>
> >> OK folks, still looking for a fix here.  Any ideas at all?
> >>
> >
> > There is a bug [1] open about this problem, unfortunately still 
> > unsolved! Maybe the k3b command line will help to investigate on this 
> > further.
> >
> > [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=213399
>
> If you saw the post on the thread referenced on the bug, the last post 
> was mine.  I'm dalek on the forums.  At least now I know it is not still 
> just me. 

Just to be sure: did you mount Rock Ridge or did you mount UDF?

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Dale]

Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Dale <dalek1967@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>   
>> Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
>>     
>>> Dale schrieb:
>>>       
>>>> OK folks, still looking for a fix here.  Any ideas at all?
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> There is a bug [1] open about this problem, unfortunately still 
>>> unsolved! Maybe the k3b command line will help to investigate on this 
>>> further.
>>>
>>> [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=213399
>>>       
>> If you saw the post on the thread referenced on the bug, the last post 
>> was mine.  I'm dalek on the forums.  At least now I know it is not still 
>> just me. 
>>     
>
> Just to be sure: did you mount Rock Ridge or did you mount UDF?
>
> Jörg
>
>   

/dev/hdd on /media/portage_2008.07.10-14.27.04_1 type udf 
(ro,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000)

Is that correct?  There is no fstab entry since someone said it was not 
needed nowadays.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Joerg Schilling]

Dale <dalek1967@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Joerg Schilling wrote:

> > Just to be sure: did you mount Rock Ridge or did you mount UDF?
> >
> > Jörg
> >
> >   
>
> /dev/hdd on /media/portage_2008.07.10-14.27.04_1 type udf 
> (ro,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000)
>
> Is that correct?  There is no fstab entry since someone said it was not 
> needed nowadays.
>

OK, now try a plain Rock Ridge mount....

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Dale]

Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Dale <dalek1967@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>   
>> Joerg Schilling wrote:
>>     
>
>   
>>> Just to be sure: did you mount Rock Ridge or did you mount UDF?
>>>
>>> Jörg
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>> /dev/hdd on /media/portage_2008.07.10-14.27.04_1 type udf 
>> (ro,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000)
>>
>> Is that correct?  There is no fstab entry since someone said it was not 
>> needed nowadays.
>>
>>     
>
> OK, now try a plain Rock Ridge mount....
>
> Jörg
>
>   

LOL.  Since there is no fstab entry, you will have to enlighten me a 
bit.  How do I tell hal to mount it that way instead of udf?

Hmmm, guess I could turn off hal and try manually.  BRB  This is odd. 

root@smoker / # cat /proc/filesystems
nodev   sysfs
nodev   rootfs
nodev   bdev
nodev   proc
nodev   binfmt_misc
nodev   sockfs
nodev   usbfs
nodev   pipefs
nodev   anon_inodefs
nodev   futexfs
nodev   tmpfs
nodev   inotifyfs
nodev   devpts
        reiserfs
        ext3
        ext4dev
        ext2
nodev   ramfs
        msdos
        vfat
        iso9660
nodev   nfs
nodev   nfsd
        ntfs
nodev   autofs
        udf
        xfs
nodev   mqueue
nodev   rpc_pipefs
root@smoker / # 

I don't seem to have a Rock Ridge.  I couldn't find it in the kernel 
config to enable it and equery doesn't list one either.  Where does it 
come from exactly?

Going to try to disable Rock Ridge in k3b and see what blows up.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Daniel Pielmeier]

2008/7/15, Dale <dalek1967@bellsouth.net>:
>
> LOL.  Since there is no fstab entry, you will have to enlighten me a bit.
> How do I tell hal to mount it that way instead of udf?
>
> Hmmm, guess I could turn off hal and try manually.  BRB  This is odd.
> root@smoker / # cat /proc/filesystems
> nodev   sysfs
> nodev   rootfs
> nodev   bdev
> nodev   proc
> nodev   binfmt_misc
> nodev   sockfs
> nodev   usbfs
> nodev   pipefs
> nodev   anon_inodefs
> nodev   futexfs
> nodev   tmpfs
> nodev   inotifyfs
> nodev   devpts
>       reiserfs
>       ext3
>       ext4dev
>       ext2
> nodev   ramfs
>       msdos
>       vfat
>       iso9660
> nodev   nfs
> nodev   nfsd
>       ntfs
> nodev   autofs
>       udf
>       xfs
> nodev   mqueue
> nodev   rpc_pipefs
> root@smoker / #
> I don't seem to have a Rock Ridge.  I couldn't find it in the kernel config
> to enable it and equery doesn't list one either.  Where does it come from
> exactly?
>
> Going to try to disable Rock Ridge in k3b and see what blows up.
>

Unmount the disk and then try to mount it manually.

mount -t iso9660 device mount-point
This mounts as iso9660 with rock-ridge extension.

mount -t udf device mount-point
This mounts as udf.

For further information it will be a good idea to look into the mount manpage.
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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Dale]

Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
>
> Unmount the disk and then try to mount it manually.
>
> mount -t iso9660 device mount-point
> This mounts as iso9660 with rock-ridge extension.
>
> mount -t udf device mount-point
> This mounts as udf.
>
> For further information it will be a good idea to look into the mount manpage.
>   

Now we are cooking.  Woooooooo Ooooooooo!!!  Check this out:

root@smoker / # ls -al /media/hdd/
total 1898079
dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root       2048 2008-07-15 04:47 .
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root        224 2008-07-15 05:31 ..
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 1943630336 2008-07-10 14:38 
portage_2008.07.10-14.27.04_1.tar
root@smoker / # mount
/dev/hda6 on / type reiserfs (rw)
proc on /proc type proc (rw)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec)
udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,nosuid)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,nosuid,noexec)
/dev/hda1 on /boot type ext2 (rw)
/dev/hda7 on /usr/portage type reiserfs (rw)
/dev/hda8 on /home type reiserfs (rw)
/dev/hda9 on /data type reiserfs (rw)
/dev/hdb1 on /backup type ext3 (rw)
none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,devmode=0664,devgid=85)
binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc 
(rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
/dev/hdd on /media/hdd type iso9660 (rw)
root@smoker / #

That is cool.  How do I fix this?  New kernel?  Can I just use this for 
all my DVD's including those with HUGE files?  I have some that are just 
under 4Gbs.

Thanks

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Dale]

Dale wrote: 
> Now we are cooking.  Woooooooo Ooooooooo!!!  Check this out:
>
> root@smoker / # ls -al /media/hdd/
> total 1898079
> dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root       2048 2008-07-15 04:47 .
> drwxr-xr-x 5 root root        224 2008-07-15 05:31 ..
> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1943630336 2008-07-10 14:38 
> portage_2008.07.10-14.27.04_1.tar
> root@smoker / # mount
> /dev/hda6 on / type reiserfs (rw)
> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec)
> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,nosuid)
> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,nosuid,noexec)
> /dev/hda1 on /boot type ext2 (rw)
> /dev/hda7 on /usr/portage type reiserfs (rw)
> /dev/hda8 on /home type reiserfs (rw)
> /dev/hda9 on /data type reiserfs (rw)
> /dev/hdb1 on /backup type ext3 (rw)
> none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
> usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs 
> (rw,noexec,nosuid,devmode=0664,devgid=85)
> binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc 
> (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
> /dev/hdd on /media/hdd type iso9660 (rw)
> root@smoker / #
>
> That is cool.  How do I fix this?  New kernel?  Can I just use this 
> for all my DVD's including those with HUGE files?  I have some that 
> are just under 4Gbs.
>
> Thanks
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-) 

I updated my kernel to linux-2.6.25-gentoo-r6 with a new set of 
"issues".  To burn a DVD now, I have to manually unmount the DVD first.  
I plan to re-emerge hal and friends to see if that will help any.  
Anyway, I burned a fresh DVD and now I get this:

root@smoker / # ls -al /media/
total 7
drwxr-xr-x  6 root root   272 2008-07-15 17:03 .
drwxr-xr-x 24 root root   560 2008-07-15 11:29 ..
drwxrwxr-x  2 root users   48 2006-10-25 06:23 floppy
-rw-r--r--  1 root root    96 2008-07-15 17:03 .hal-mtab
-rw-------  1 root root     0 2008-07-15 16:47 .hal-mtab-lock
drwxrwxr-x  2 dale cdrom   48 2008-07-14 07:44 hdc
drwxrwxr-x  2 dale cdrom   48 2008-07-14 07:45 hdd
-rw-r--r--  1 root root     0 2008-07-12 01:48 .keep_sys-apps_hal-0
dr-xr-xr-x  2 dale root  2048 2008-07-15 16:56 portage_2008.07.10-14.27.04_1
root@smoker / # mount
/dev/hda6 on / type reiserfs (rw)
proc on /proc type proc (rw)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec)
udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,size=10240k,mode=755)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,nosuid,noexec,gid=5,mode=620)
/dev/hda1 on /boot type ext2 (rw)
/dev/hda7 on /usr/portage type reiserfs (rw)
/dev/hda8 on /home type reiserfs (rw)
/dev/hda9 on /data type reiserfs (rw)
/dev/hdb1 on /backup type ext3 (rw)
none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,devmode=0664,devgid=85)
binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc 
(rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
/dev/hdd on /media/portage_2008.07.10-14.27.04_1 type iso9660 
(rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,uid=1000,utf8)
root@smoker / #  

So it appears to be a kernel issue that in newer versions has been 
fixed.  Now the next issue, what's up with k3b not being able to unmount 
the DVD so it can burn a new one?

Thanks for all the help.  Oh, KDE loaded up just fine with this new 
kernel.  Same load up times as the older version I was using.

Ideas on the unmount issue are welcome.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Dale]

Dale wrote:
> Dale wrote:
>> Now we are cooking.  Woooooooo Ooooooooo!!!  Check this out:
>>
>> root@smoker / # ls -al /media/hdd/
>> total 1898079
>> dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root       2048 2008-07-15 04:47 .
>> drwxr-xr-x 5 root root        224 2008-07-15 05:31 ..
>> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1943630336 2008-07-10 14:38 
>> portage_2008.07.10-14.27.04_1.tar
>> root@smoker / # mount
>> /dev/hda6 on / type reiserfs (rw)
>> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
>> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec)
>> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,nosuid)
>> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,nosuid,noexec)
>> /dev/hda1 on /boot type ext2 (rw)
>> /dev/hda7 on /usr/portage type reiserfs (rw)
>> /dev/hda8 on /home type reiserfs (rw)
>> /dev/hda9 on /data type reiserfs (rw)
>> /dev/hdb1 on /backup type ext3 (rw)
>> none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
>> usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs 
>> (rw,noexec,nosuid,devmode=0664,devgid=85)
>> binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc 
>> (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
>> /dev/hdd on /media/hdd type iso9660 (rw)
>> root@smoker / #
>>
>> That is cool.  How do I fix this?  New kernel?  Can I just use this 
>> for all my DVD's including those with HUGE files?  I have some that 
>> are just under 4Gbs.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-) 
>
> I updated my kernel to linux-2.6.25-gentoo-r6 with a new set of 
> "issues".  To burn a DVD now, I have to manually unmount the DVD 
> first.  I plan to re-emerge hal and friends to see if that will help 
> any.  Anyway, I burned a fresh DVD and now I get this:
>
> <<SNIP>>
>
> So it appears to be a kernel issue that in newer versions has been 
> fixed.  Now the next issue, what's up with k3b not being able to 
> unmount the DVD so it can burn a new one?
>
> Thanks for all the help.  Oh, KDE loaded up just fine with this new 
> kernel.  Same load up times as the older version I was using.
>
> Ideas on the unmount issue are welcome.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-) 

Well, it worked the first time at least.  Back to the drawing board.   :-( 

I re-emerged hal and it umounts just fine now. 

Can someone tell me things to try to narrow down what the problem is 
exactly?  I'm will to try some things if it will help.  You may have to 
hold my hand a little tho. 

Any more ideas?

Dale


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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Dale]

Dale wrote:
>
> Well, it worked the first time at least.  Back to the drawing board.   
> :-(
> I re-emerged hal and it umounts just fine now.
> Can someone tell me things to try to narrow down what the problem is 
> exactly?  I'm will to try some things if it will help.  You may have 
> to hold my hand a little tho.
> Any more ideas?
>
> Dale
>

This appears to be a udf problem I would assume with the kernel.  If I 
mount the DVD as iso9660 then it works fine but if it mounts with udf 
the permissions are wrong.  Is there a way to tell hal, ivman and 
friends to always use iso9660?  At least until there is a fix in the 
kernel anyway.

Thanks

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Daniel Pielmeier]

Dale schrieb:
> 
> This appears to be a udf problem I would assume with the kernel.  If I 
> mount the DVD as iso9660 then it works fine but if it mounts with udf 
> the permissions are wrong.  Is there a way to tell hal, ivman and 
> friends to always use iso9660?  At least until there is a fix in the 
> kernel anyway.
> 

So it would be a good idea to add this information to the bug. If it is 
not known already and nobody reports it, there will never be a fix! :-)

Regards,

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Dale]

Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
> Dale schrieb:
>>
>> This appears to be a udf problem I would assume with the kernel.  If 
>> I mount the DVD as iso9660 then it works fine but if it mounts with 
>> udf the permissions are wrong.  Is there a way to tell hal, ivman and 
>> friends to always use iso9660?  At least until there is a fix in the 
>> kernel anyway.
>>
>
> So it would be a good idea to add this information to the bug. If it 
> is not known already and nobody reports it, there will never be a fix! 
> :-)
>
> Regards,
>
> Daniel

Comment posted that iso9660 works and at least is a workaround.

Is there a way to tell hal to mount only as iso9660 tho?  I looked 
around in the /etc/hal directory but nothing poked me in the eye.

Thanks

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 15 July 2008, Dale wrote:
> I don't seem to have a Rock Ridge.  I couldn't find it in the kernel
> config to enable it and equery doesn't list one either.  Where does
> it come from exactly?

Rock Ridge isn't a filesystem, it's an extension to iso9660. From man 
mount:

Mount options for iso9660
       ISO 9660 is a standard describing a filesystem structure to be 
used on CD-ROMs. (This filesystem type
       is also seen on some DVDs. See also the udf filesystem.)

       Normal iso9660 filenames appear in a 8.3 format (i.e., DOS-like 
restrictions on filename length), and
       in addition all characters are in upper case.  Also there is no 
field for file ownership, protection,
       number of links, provision for block/character devices, etc.

       Rock Ridge is an extension to iso9660 that provides all of these 
unix like features.  Basically there
       are  extensions to each directory record that supply all of the 
additional information, and when Rock
       Ridge is in use, the filesystem is indistinguishable from a 
normal UNIX file system (except  that  it
       is read-only, of course).




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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Joerg Schilling]

Dale <dalek1967@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> > I have a CD burner on here too. I basically set them both up the same 
> > way. The CD works just fine but the *DVD* does not.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Dale
> >
> > :-)  :-)
>
> OK folks, still looking for a fix here.  Any ideas at all?

The problem is that your mkisofs command line hides the most important facts 
inside files that you did not send. 

Try to create a scenario that allows to reproduce your problem without using
k3b.

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Dale]

Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Dale <dalek1967@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>   
>>> I have a CD burner on here too. I basically set them both up the same 
>>> way. The CD works just fine but the *DVD* does not.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Dale
>>>
>>> :-)  :-)
>>>       
>> OK folks, still looking for a fix here.  Any ideas at all?
>>     
>
> The problem is that your mkisofs command line hides the most important facts 
> inside files that you did not send. 
>
> Try to create a scenario that allows to reproduce your problem without using
> k3b.
>
> Jörg
>
>   

I'm not sure if you saw it but I sent the k3b debugging information in a 
couple posts.  It had some long commands in it.  I can send them again 
if needed.

K3b is all I have ever used so I'm clueless on any other way.  I'd be 
glad to try a command line if you can give me the correct options. 

I sort of think this is k3b, udev having a bad mounting day or maybe 
even a kernel thing.  I'm just not sure which. 

If you need more info just ask. 

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Joerg Schilling]

Dale <dalek1967@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> > Try to create a scenario that allows to reproduce your problem without using
> > k3b.
> >
> > Jörg
> >
> >   
>
> I'm not sure if you saw it but I sent the k3b debugging information in a 
> couple posts.  It had some long commands in it.  I can send them again 
> if needed.

This is why I told you that it is impossible to repeat your problem as 
important information is missing.

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

Hi,

have a look at the udev and hal rules.

I am pretty sure that this has nothing to do with cdrecord or k3b.

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

[Joerg Schilling]

Volker Armin Hemmann <volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> have a look at the udev and hal rules.
>
> I am pretty sure that this has nothing to do with cdrecord or k3b.

It would of course also help to manually mount the UDF part and check whether 
this is a problem caused by the way mount was done.

Jörg

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