From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KFpFi-0000Hv-DT for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:51:30 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E807E04D7; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:51:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailgw1.fraunhofer.de (mailgw1.fraunhofer.de [153.96.1.17]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB80BE04D7 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:51:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailgw1.fraunhofer.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw1.fraunhofer.de[host mailgw24] (8.14.2+/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m67BpPUl015651 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:51:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de (pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de [195.37.77.164]) by mailgw1.fraunhofer.de (8.14.2+/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m67BpCJ2015019 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:51:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from EXCHSRV.fokus.fraunhofer.de (bohr [10.147.9.231]) by pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de (8.13.7/8.13.7) with SMTP id m67Bp2NB002134 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:51:02 +0200 (MEST) Received: from rigel ([10.147.65.195]) by EXCHSRV.fokus.fraunhofer.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:51:02 +0200 Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:51:02 +0200 From: Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OT: intentionally broken media Message-ID: <48720326.jQfRO4sLBfR2HIJI%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> References: <48637B9B.1010607@paradise.net.nz> <48637eb8.8Jv72RlvJz1kwG6j%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <4864059A.7070602@paradise.net.nz> <486408e8.H6jJprFk5Zz6c8f9%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <486418FF.7040408@paradise.net.nz> <4864a51a.gy2WWO+BICOOKx7w%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <20080701111600.GF21556@nibiru.local> <486c9410.auL2rSv/4Uz61o5x%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <20080703232316.GC12976@nibiru.local> <486dfc24.XsEWOK5eNcSEzJFD%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <20080704211236.GB25491@nibiru.local> In-Reply-To: <20080704211236.GB25491@nibiru.local> User-Agent: nail 11.22 3/20/05 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jul 2008 11:51:02.0400 (UTC) FILETIME=[BAE56000:01C8E027] X-Fraunhofer-Email-Policy: accepted Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: ecbd0fb2-c333-4342-982d-bf7c5e31c3c8 X-Archives-Hash: 18e3e05ba3da6b5777f235253a24c8f7 Enrico Weigelt wrote: > * Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > OK, I forgot that you might have contact to a competitor. In this cas= e, it=20 > > should be possible to force shops to clearly separate the selling poi= nt for=20 > > non-standard products from the products that behave as expected. > > Yep, my advocate is also music producer, so he can do this :) Then you may think about another interesting case: I am not sure about today, but a few years ago, Sony did definitely do=20 something real strange: They sold CDs that flip the copy control bit in the subchannel data with = a=20 frequency of 9.375 Hz. This is an indication for: "The creator of this copy is not the copyright holder". So Sony sold something illegal. ..... Well, they did this in order to pre= vent home stereeo appliances from allowing copies if the disk, but the SCM is=20 intended to mark home made copies. Sony did sell media that contain a marker for "Sony does not own the copy= right on this media". J=F6rg --=20 EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) J=F6rg Schilling D-13353 = Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) =20 schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogs= pot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/s= chily --=20 gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list