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Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 21:23:56 +0100 Message-ID: <4870520.31r3eYUQgx@rogueboard> In-Reply-To: References: <1acbc1b0-9f39-1fd6-3cc1-6d55ae5eef0d@youngman.org.uk> <68846133-6221-4e9a-880c-2308cdbf41b3@youngman.org.uk> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart4521769.LvFx2qVVIh"; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-PPP-Message-ID: <169498225532.2968457.12552296713324392602@cloud220.unlimitedwebhosting.co.uk> X-PPP-Vhost: kintzios.com X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: C035E408B4 X-Rspamd-Server: mailclean11 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.61 / 999.00]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(0.00)[kintzios.com:s=default]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FUZZY_BLOCKED(0.00)[rspamd.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM(-0.00)[-0.525]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[confabulate@kintzios.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(0.00)[+mx]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34931, ipnet:149.255.60.0/22, country:GB]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(0.00)[kintzios.com,none]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[kintzios.com:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Action: no action X-Archives-Salt: 31c15747-18bb-4ca5-b779-4bbf92a6f959 X-Archives-Hash: ffe136d2d8eed47657da43e14e7b993d --nextPart4521769.LvFx2qVVIh Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; protected-headers="v1" From: Michael To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: confabulate@kintzios.com Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] What is the point of baloo? Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 21:23:56 +0100 Message-ID: <4870520.31r3eYUQgx@rogueboard> MIME-Version: 1.0 On Sunday, 17 September 2023 20:19:55 BST Jack wrote: > On 9/17/23 15:06, Wols Lists wrote: > > On 17/09/2023 19:37, Michael wrote: > >> However, unlike locate, baloo is meant to index not just file names, > >> but also > >> metadata tags and relationships relevant to files, emails and > >> contacts. Its > >> devs would argue it has a small footprint. So it is meant to > >> be*more* than a > >> simple file name indexer. > > > > But what is the POINT of said index? If there's no point it's just a > > total and complete waste of time and space! > > > > So, far the only point I'm aware of is it is supposed to make kmail > > run faster - an application I've never used. > > While I've also always had KDE indexing turned off, baloo and associated > "stuff" allows searching through all your files (or a configurable > subset) not just mail. It lets you find something you know you have but > forgot where you stashed it. Also, I'm pretty sure that that high load > is only until baloo finishes one complete pass through all the files > it's been told to (or allowed to) index. After that, it only needs to > index new or changed stuff. I also believe there is a way to limit how > much cpu it uses, but I have no idea how, since I (like you and many > others) prefer to limit it to 0. > > You would probably get a better discussion, including at least some > reasonable defense of baloo, posting on discuss.kde.org (their current > forum system.) One recent example I did see there is that baloo (with > appropriate configuration) can let you see height and width of image > files in dolphin (the file manager.) No, I don't have any need for that > either, but I can see some users liking it. > > One thing to keep in mind, I don't think folks like us (Gentoo users in > general) are really the primary target of KDE. I suspect they are > (among other things) trying to produce a system that will attract users > from "that other OS" who may take things like poor performance but full > indexing for granted. > > Jack Yes, Baloo is meant to facilitate complicated and vague searches for e.g., some pdf or was it a png file file I received perhaps around 2 years ago, from one of my contacts among work associates, which I transferred from my phone to my PC over bluetooth. It will also index objects soon after their creation, rather than wait for some cronjob to kick in once a day. However, if you have no such use case, then it is relatively easy for Gentoo users to disable semantic-desktop and/or disable baloo. --nextPart4521769.LvFx2qVVIh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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