[gentoo-user] help

[gentoo-user] help

[Erik Ohrnberger]

help

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Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Jason Messerschmitt]

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certainly don't need any help with verbosity, do you?

On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Erik Ohrnberger <Erik@echohome.org> wrote:

> help
>
> --
> gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Hal Martin]

Erik Ohrnberger wrote:
> help
>
>   
Certainly, where/in what do you require it?

-Hal
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Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Ricardo Bevilacqua]

2008/7/3 Erik Ohrnberger <Erik@echohome.org>:
> help
>

That is a nice song from "The Beatles" [1] =)

Regards,

Richard.


[1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ibX3TejlZE
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[gentoo-user] help

[Jorge Ventura]

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Re: [gentoo-user] help

[gevisz]

чт, 4 окт. 2018 г. в 16:18, Jorge Ventura <jorge.araujo.ventura@gmail.com>:
>
>
Hm, could you, please, describe your problem in a bit more details?

Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Dale]

gevisz wrote:
> чт, 4 окт. 2018 г. в 16:18, Jorge Ventura <jorge.araujo.ventura@gmail.com>:
>>
> Hm, could you, please, describe your problem in a bit more details?
>
>

I wondered if they were trying to get list help,
gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org, when I first saw it.  If so, maybe
that email address will help them, if they still need it. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

[gentoo-user] help

[Dan Hunter]

Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

Am 23.02.2013 10:28, schrieb Dan Hunter:
>
>
no

Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Dale]

Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> Am 23.02.2013 10:28, schrieb Dan Hunter:
>>
> no
>
>

Double no.  Next he will try the "unsubscribe" in the subject line angle
with little success there either.  Then someone will post the nice long
reply about the unsubscribe kit and all its options.  I find that one
funny tho so I usually read it.  o_O

Dale

:-)  :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Dan Hunter]

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On 02/23/13 17:07, Dale wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>> Am 23.02.2013 10:28, schrieb Dan Hunter:
>> no
>>
>>
> Double no.  Next he will try the "unsubscribe" in the subject line angle
> with little success there either.  Then someone will post the nice long
> reply about the unsubscribe kit and all its options.  I find that one
> funny tho so I usually read it.  o_O
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)
>
sorry expected robot reply
just want to knowurl ofthis lists. Is available http-version of gentoo lists?

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Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

Am 23.02.2013 14:27, schrieb Dan Hunter:
> On 02/23/13 17:07, Dale wrote:
>> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>> Am 23.02.2013 10:28, schrieb Dan Hunter:
>>> no
>>>
>>>
>> Double no.  Next he will try the "unsubscribe" in the subject line angle
>> with little success there either.  Then someone will post the nice long
>> reply about the unsubscribe kit and all its options.  I find that one
>> funny tho so I usually read it.  o_O
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)
>>
> sorry expected robot reply
> just want to knowurl ofthis lists. Is available http-version of gentoo lists?
>

look into the header of the mails your received. List-help for example.

There are many email-archives carrying this list. google is your friend.

[gentoo-user] help

[Dainius Matusevičius]

[gentoo-user] sky2 , kernel 2.6.31, macbook pro and connection hiccups

[bn]

Hi,
I upgraded recently my Macbook Pro to gentoo-sources 2.6.31 and I have
annoying network hiccups which I didn't have with the old 2.6.24.

b.g.o. and google return me something on sky2-related hiccups, but only
related to very old kernels (<2.6.23), but maybe you know better.

(Hopefully) relevant infos below, I hope someone can give me some hint
about this problem. Thanks!


uname -a:
---------
Linux kircher 2.6.31-gentoo-r6 #8 SMP PREEMPT Fri Dec 25 00:57:17 GMT
2009 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7700 @ 2.40GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux


Example of logs entries:
---------------
Jan  2 17:47:42 kircher sky2 eth0: rx error, status 0x620020 length 98
Jan  2 17:47:49 kircher sky2 eth0: rx error, status 0x690020 length 105
Jan  2 17:48:11 kircher sky2 eth0: rx error, status 0x4990020 length 1177
Jan  2 17:48:25 kircher sky2 eth0: rx error, status 0x13f0020 length 319
Jan  2 17:48:46 kircher sky2 eth0: rx error, status 0x1350020 length 309


Relevant lspci -vvv :
------------
0c:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Marvell Yukon
88E8058 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 13)
        Subsystem: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Device 00ba

        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
        Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort-
<TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 256 bytes

        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 29

        Region 0: Memory at 97200000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable)
[size=16K]
        Region 2: I/O ports at 3000 [size=256]

        Expansion ROM at 9b600000 [disabled] [size=128K]

        Capabilities: [48] Power Management version 3

                Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA
PME(D0+,D1+,D2+,D3hot+,D3cold+)
                Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=1 PME-

        Capabilities: [50] Vital Product Data <?>

        Capabilities: [5c] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+
Count=1/1 Enable+
                Address: 00000000fee0300c  Data: 4191
        Capabilities: [e0] Express (v1) Legacy Endpoint, MSI 00
                DevCap: MaxPayload 128 bytes, PhantFunc 0, Latency L0s
unlimited, L1 unlimited
                        ExtTag- AttnBtn- AttnInd- PwrInd- RBE+ FLReset-
                DevCtl: Report errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal-
Unsupported-
                        RlxdOrd- ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop-
                        MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 2048 bytes
                DevSta: CorrErr+ UncorrErr- FatalErr- UnsuppReq+ AuxPwr+
TransPend-
                LnkCap: Port #0, Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x1, ASPM L0s L1,
Latency L0 <256ns, L1 unlimited
                        ClockPM+ Suprise- LLActRep- BwNot-
                LnkCtl: ASPM L0s L1 Enabled; RCB 128 bytes Disabled-
Retrain- CommClk+
                        ExtSynch- ClockPM- AutWidDis- BWInt- AutBWInt-
                LnkSta: Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x1, TrErr- Train- SlotClk+
DLActive- BWMgmt- ABWMgmt-
        Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting
                UESta:  DLP- SDES- TLP- FCP- CmpltTO- CmpltAbrt-
UnxCmplt- RxOF- MalfTLP- ECRC- UnsupReq- ACSVoil-
                UEMsk:  DLP- SDES- TLP- FCP- CmpltTO- CmpltAbrt-
UnxCmplt- RxOF- MalfTLP- ECRC- UnsupReq- ACSVoil-
                UESvrt: DLP+ SDES- TLP- FCP+ CmpltTO- CmpltAbrt-
UnxCmplt- RxOF+ MalfTLP+ ECRC- UnsupReq- ACSVoil-
                CESta:  RxErr+ BadTLP- BadDLLP- Rollover- Timeout-
NonFatalErr+
                CESta:  RxErr- BadTLP- BadDLLP- Rollover- Timeout-
NonFatalErr+
                AERCap: First Error Pointer: 1f, GenCap- CGenEn- ChkCap-
ChkEn-
        Kernel driver in use: sky2


emerge --info:
---------
Portage 2.1.6.13 (default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop, gcc-4.1.2,
glibc-2.6.1-r0, 2.6.31-gentoo-r6 i686)
=================================================================

System uname:
Linux-2.6.31-gentoo-r6-i686-Intel-R-_Core-TM-2_Duo_CPU_T7700_@_2.40GHz-with-gentoo-1.12.11.1

Timestamp of tree: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 19:30:01 +0000

app-shells/bash:     3.2_p39

dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.1.9-r2

dev-lang/python:     2.4.4-r13, 2.5.4-r3, 2.6.4

dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r6

dev-util/cmake:      2.6.2-r1

sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.11.1

sys-apps/sandbox:    1.6-r2

sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.63

sys-devel/automake:  1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10.2

sys-devel/binutils:  2.18-r3

sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.0-r4

sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.26

virtual/os-headers:  2.6.27-r2

ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"

CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu"

CFLAGS="-O2 -march=nocona -pipe"

CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"

CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/share/X11/xkb /usr/share/config"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d
/etc/env.d/java/ /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild
/etc/sandbox.d /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/language.dat.d
/etc/texmf/language.def.d /etc/texmf/updmap.d /etc/texmf/web2c
/etc/udev/rules.d"
CXXFLAGS="-O2 -march=nocona -pipe"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="distlocks fixpackages parallel-fetch protect-owned sandbox
sfperms strict unmerge-orphans userfetch"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://de-mirror.org/distro/gentoo/
http://files.gentoo.org http://ftp.uoi.gr/mirror/OS/gentoo/
http://ftp.cc.uoc.gr/mirrors/linux/gentoo/
http://mirror.ing.unibo.it/gentoo/
http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/os/linux/gentoo http://gentoo.tiscali.nl/ "
LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1"
LINGUAS="it en en_GB"
MAKEOPTS="-j3"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT="/"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times
--compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180
--exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/portage/local/layman/pro-audio /usr/local/portage"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="X a52 aac acl acpi aiglx alsa avi berkdb bluetooth branding bzip2
cairo cddb cdr cli consolekit cracklib crypt css cups cxx dbus
divx4linux dri dts dvd dvdr dvdread emboss encode evo fam ffmpeg firefox
flac fortran ftp gcj gdbm gif gimp glitz gnustep gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2
hal iconv imagemagick ipv6 jabber jack java jpeg kde ladspa ldap
libnotify lm_sensors mad mikmod mmx mng modules mp3 mp4 mpeg mplayer mtp
mudflap ncurses networkmanager nls nodrm nptl nptlonly nsplugin nvidia
ogg opengl openmp pam pcre pdf perl pmu png ppds pppd python qt3support
qt4 quicktime readline reflection samba sdl session spell spl ssl
startup-notification subtitles svg svga sysfs tcpd theora thunar tiff tk
truetype unicode usb v4l v4l2 vorbis wifi win32codecs wmf x264 x86
xcomposite xml xorg xulrunner xv xvid zlib" ALSA_CARDS="hda-intel"
ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug
file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw
multi null plug rate route share shm softvol" APACHE2_MODULES="actions
alias auth_basic authn_alias authn_anon authn_dbm authn_default
authn_file authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host
authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache dav dav_fs dav_lock deflate dir
disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers include info
log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif
speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias" ELIBC="glibc"
INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse evdev synaptics" KERNEL="linux"
LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb
ncurses text" LINGUAS="it en en_GB" RUBY_TARGETS="ruby18" USERLAND="GNU"
VIDEO_CARDS="vesa fbdev nv nvidia"
Unset:  CPPFLAGS, CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, FFLAGS, INSTALL_MASK,
LANG, LC_ALL, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS,
PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS

[gentoo-user] help

[Linux User #332203]

Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 15:19:46 -0600, Linux User #332203 wrote:

X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0

> 
> 
> 

Changing your mailer may help with the white text on a white background
problem :)


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[gentoo-user] help

[Daryl Styrk]

Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Tence T. George]

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errr...what's seems to be the problem?

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Daryl Styrk <darylstyrk@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Daryl Styrk]

Tence T. George wrote:
> errr...what's seems to be the problem?
> 
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Daryl Styrk <darylstyrk@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>
> 

Sorry I was looking for the list mailman.. I deleted the initial
"Welcome to the list" containing the usual (sometimes) commands for
manipulating the subscriptions.

Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Qian Qiao]

On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 03:05, Daryl Styrk <darylstyrk@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tence T. George wrote:
>> errr...what's seems to be the problem?
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Daryl Styrk <darylstyrk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>
> Sorry I was looking for the list mailman.. I deleted the initial
> "Welcome to the list" containing the usual (sometimes) commands for
> manipulating the subscriptions.

Such information is in the header of every message you get from the list.

Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Daryl Styrk]

Qian Qiao wrote:

> 
> Such information is in the header of every message you get from the list.
> 

Thank you for that.  I normally do not view headers detailed and had
overlooked it as an option.

Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Qian Qiao]

On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 03:15, Daryl Styrk <darylstyrk@gmail.com> wrote:
> Qian Qiao wrote:
>
>>
>> Such information is in the header of every message you get from the list.
>>
>
> Thank you for that.  I normally do not view headers detailed and had
> overlooked it as an option.
>

Many list softwares add those information to the header, so you know
where to look next time.

Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Dale]

Daryl Styrk wrote:
>   

Did you fall and you can't get up or what?  :-p

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] help

[damian]

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> Daryl Styrk wrote:
>>
>
> Did you fall and you can't get up or what?  :-p
ROFL!

> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)
>
>

[gentoo-user] help

[vikram ranade]

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Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Richard Fish]

On 2/8/06, vikram ranade <ranade.vikram@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>

My guess is that your keyboard is broken.

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Ernie Schroder]

On Wednesday 08 February 2006 12:25, a tiny voice compelled Richard Fish to 
write:
> On 2/8/06, vikram ranade <ranade.vikram@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> My guess is that your keyboard is broken.
>
> -Richard
Gotta love empty posts especially in HTML
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[gentoo user mail list]

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Re: [gentoo-user] help

[John Jolet]

On Dec 29, 2005, at 9:14 AM, gentoo user mail list wrote:
okay...  we're good, but we need a BIT more information than that.  :)
>
> -- 
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Uwe Thiem]

On 29 December 2005 17:15, John Jolet wrote:
> On Dec 29, 2005, at 9:14 AM, gentoo user mail list wrote:
> okay...  we're good, but we need a BIT more information than that.  :)

Reminds me on something Matthias Ettrich once said when kwm was still KDE's 
window manager: "Alright, folks, next I will implement focus follows 
mind." ;-)

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Ciaran McCreesh]

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On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 23:14:41 +0800 gentoo user mail list
<frid.gentoouser@gmail.com> wrote:
| 

Cut the blue wire first, then the green wire within the next five
seconds. Whatever you do, don't touch the red wire!

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Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Martins Steinbergs]

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On Thursday 29 December 2005 17:36, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 23:14:41 +0800 gentoo user mail list
> <frid.gentoouser@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Cut the blue wire first, then the green wire within the next five
> seconds. Whatever you do, don't touch the red wire!


sometimes they fool with colors, better RUN NOW

mr.holywood
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Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Lares Moreau]

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On Thu, 2005-12-29 at 23:14 +0800, gentoo user mail list wrote:

"I need somebody, HELP, not just anybody, Help.
When I was younger so much younger then today..."
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Re: [gentoo-user] help

[John J. Foster]

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On Thu, Dec 29, 2005 at 10:58:11AM -0700, Lares Moreau wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-12-29 at 23:14 +0800, gentoo user mail list wrote:
> 
> "I need somebody, HELP, not just anybody, Help.
> When I was younger so much younger then today..."

"I never needed anybody's help in any way..."

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Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Norberto Bensa]

John J. Foster wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 29, 2005 at 10:58:11AM -0700, Lares Moreau wrote:
> > On Thu, 2005-12-29 at 23:14 +0800, gentoo user mail list wrote:
> >
> > "I need somebody, HELP, not just anybody, Help.
> > When I was younger so much younger then today..."
>
> "I never needed anybody's help in any way..."

But now these days are gone, I'm not so self assured,
Now I find I've changed my mind and opened up the doors.
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[Tamer Higazi]

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[Michael Crute]

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On 10/26/05, Tamer Higazi <tamer23@myrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>
>
With what?

-Mike

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[b.n.]

Michael Crute wrote:
> On 10/26/05, *Tamer Higazi* <tamer23@myrealbox.com 
> <mailto:tamer23@myrealbox.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> With what?

Probably he vanished before having time to tell us what was putting him 
in danger. Poor Mr.Higazi. We will miss him.

m.
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[gentoo-user] help

[Wes Gray]

My 3-year old gentoo system has decided to be a big headache.  My
troubles started when I upgraded to kde 3.4.  The kde taskbar apps
wouldn't start.  I tried unmerging kde-base and emerging kdebase-meta
to see if it was related to the kde split, but that didn't help.  I got
the idea that the problem was some old kde packages, so I tried unmerging
everything on my system which was kde related, including some old packages
which are no longer in portage, then I reemerged everything.  THis was
a big mistake as afterwards kde was even more broken, and kde apps like
k3b now don't even work.  I've given up on kde and moved to enlightenment,
but it will be really hard to deal without any kde apps.  Lots of people have
given me advice, but everything I try just seems to make things worse.  It
seems like there is something about old versions of kde that won't go away,
which I don't understand at all.  It seems like if you reemerge something it
should move to the newest versions.  I really could use some help because
I have no idea what to do next.

-Wes
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Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Eduard Vaykher]

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On 10/5/05, Wes Gray <smiths@alumni.cse.ucsc.edu> wrote:
>
> My 3-year old gentoo system has decided to be a big headache. My
> troubles started when I upgraded to kde 3.4. The kde taskbar apps
> wouldn't start. I tried unmerging kde-base and emerging kdebase-meta
> to see if it was related to the kde split, but that didn't help. I got
> the idea that the problem was some old kde packages, so I tried unmerging
> everything on my system which was kde related, including some old packages
> which are no longer in portage, then I reemerged everything. THis was
> a big mistake as afterwards kde was even more broken, and kde apps like
> k3b now don't even work. I've given up on kde and moved to enlightenment,
> but it will be really hard to deal without any kde apps. Lots of people
> have
> given me advice, but everything I try just seems to make things worse. It
> seems like there is something about old versions of kde that won't go
> away,
> which I don't understand at all. It seems like if you reemerge something
> it
> should move to the newest versions. I really could use some help because
> I have no idea what to do next.
>
> -Wes
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>
>
KDE should separate its releases by minor version. KDE 3.2 or 3.3 shouldn't
interfere with KDE 3.4, which makes me wonder why and older version is
blocking things. emerge kde-meta and see what kind of trouble it gives you.

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Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Wes Gray]

On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 10:58:45PM -0400, Eduard Vaykher wrote:
> KDE should separate its releases by minor version. KDE 3.2 or 3.3 shouldn't
> interfere with KDE 3.4, which makes me wonder why and older version is
> blocking things. emerge kde-meta and see what kind of trouble it gives you.

# emerge -p kde-meta

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] kde-base/kde-meta-3.4.1  

I tried emerging kde-meta.  I then tried unmerging all the blockers it
created and then emerging back kde, to get rid of kde-meta.  When that
didn't help I reversed the process and reemerged kde-meta, which is
where I am now.  I've rebuilt all of kde a couple of times now with
the situation getting worse, not better.
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Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Ted Ozolins]

Wes Gray wrote:

># emerge -p kde-meta
>
>These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
>
>Calculating dependencies ...done!
>[ebuild   R   ] kde-base/kde-meta-3.4.1  
>
>I tried emerging kde-meta.  I then tried unmerging all the blockers it
>created and then emerging back kde, to get rid of kde-meta.  When that
>didn't help I reversed the process and reemerged kde-meta, which is
>where I am now.  I've rebuilt all of kde a couple of times now with
>the situation getting worse, not better.
>  
>
At the login screen, what have your chosen as the session type. Perhaps
its still selecting your old KDE. Check that and select KDE-3.4 and see
what happens.

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Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Wes Gray]

On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 08:46:55PM -0700, Ted Ozolins wrote:
> At the login screen, what have your chosen as the session type. Perhaps
> its still selecting your old KDE. Check that and select KDE-3.4 and see
> what happens.

Yes, of course I am selecting 3.4.  That is the only choice.  I've tried
the obvious stuff, trust me.
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Re: [gentoo-user] help

[DmD (Spider) LJungmark]

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On Wed, 2005-10-05 at 21:18 -0700, Wes Gray wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 08:46:55PM -0700, Ted Ozolins wrote:
> > At the login screen, what have your chosen as the session type. Perhaps
> > its still selecting your old KDE. Check that and select KDE-3.4 and see
> > what happens.
> 
> Yes, of course I am selecting 3.4.  That is the only choice.  I've tried
> the obvious stuff, trust me.


Try this then :  Add a brand new sparkling user.
Log in to X and KDE.  Is the problem persisting then, or not?



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Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Michael Crute]

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On 10/5/05, Wes Gray <smiths@alumni.cse.ucsc.edu> wrote:
>
> # emerge -p kde-meta
>
> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies ...done!
> [ebuild R ] kde-base/kde-meta-3.4.1
>
> I tried emerging kde-meta. I then tried unmerging all the blockers it
> created and then emerging back kde, to get rid of kde-meta. When that
> didn't help I reversed the process and reemerged kde-meta, which is
> where I am now. I've rebuilt all of kde a couple of times now with
> the situation getting worse, not better.
>

Try `emerge -eDav kde-meta` to rebuild all of KDEs dependencies.

-Mike

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Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Roger Miliker]

On Thursday 06 October 2005 04:46, Wes Gray wrote:
> My 3-year old gentoo system has decided to be a big headache.  My
> troubles started when I upgraded to kde 3.4.  The kde taskbar apps
> wouldn't start.  I tried unmerging kde-base and emerging kdebase-meta
> to see if it was related to the kde split, but that didn't help.  I got
> the idea that the problem was some old kde packages, so I tried unmerging
> everything on my system which was kde related, including some old packages
> which are no longer in portage, then I reemerged everything.  THis was
> a big mistake as afterwards kde was even more broken, and kde apps like
> k3b now don't even work.  I've given up on kde and moved to enlightenment,
> but it will be really hard to deal without any kde apps.  Lots of people
> have given me advice, but everything I try just seems to make things worse.
>  It seems like there is something about old versions of kde that won't go
> away, which I don't understand at all.  It seems like if you reemerge
> something it should move to the newest versions.  I really could use some
> help because I have no idea what to do next.
>
> -Wes
One thing you could try (while not running kde) is:
mv ~/.kde ~/myold.kde
Kde will regenerate ,kde on next start and if that works fine you can merge 
back the configs from the old ~/myold.kde

Hope this helps

Roger

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Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Benno Schulenberg]

Wes Gray wrote:
> My 3-year old gentoo system has decided to be a big headache.  My
> troubles started when I upgraded to kde 3.4.

Upgrading from which version precisely?

What is the full output of 'ls -l ~/.kde*' ?

And of 'grep kde /var/lib/portage/world | sort' ?

And of 'grep kde /etc/env.d/*' ?

> The kde taskbar apps wouldn't start.

Does Konqueror work?  KMail?  KWrite?  Konsole?
The Control Center?  The Menu Editor?  Do most things work?

Looking back at your other emails...  Are you keeping the rest of 
your system up-to-date?  What does 'emerge -Dup world' say (after a 
sync)?  Do you still have an old python-2.2* installed?  What says 
'eix -e python'?  (If you don't have eix installed, first do 
'emerge eix; update-eix'.)  What says 'emerge -p --depclean'?  Does 
revdep-rebuild now run without problems?

(And please don't tell us to trust you, we're just asking questions, 
as you're not being very specific.)

Benno
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Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Wes Gray]

On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 12:57:09PM +0200, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> Upgrading from which version precisely?

3.3

> What is the full output of 'ls -l ~/.kde*' ?

I've played around with the ~/.kde* files a lot.  I've tried removing
them, as well as kde tmp files in /tmp and /var/tmp.  I've also tried
creating a completely new user.  With a new user or no ~/.kde files
kicker crashes on startup and I get no bar at the bottom.  With my
current ~/.kde* files the bar starts, but it's applets like the
clock or the thing that shows minimized apps doesn't work.

> And of 'grep kde /var/lib/portage/world | sort' ?

# grep kde /var/lib/portage/world | sort
kde-base/arts
kde-base/kde-env
kde-base/kde-meta
kde-base/kdebase-meta
kde-base/kdelibs
kde-base/konqueror
#

> And of 'grep kde /etc/env.d/*' ?

# grep kde /etc/env.d/*
/etc/env.d/46kdepaths-3.4:PATH=/usr/kde/3.4/bin
/etc/env.d/46kdepaths-3.4:ROOTPATH=/usr/kde/3.4/sbin:/usr/kde/3.4/bin
/etc/env.d/46kdepaths-3.4:LDPATH=/usr/kde/3.4/lib
/etc/env.d/46kdepaths-3.4:CONFIG_PROTECT="/usr/kde/3.4/share/config /usr/kde/3.4/env /usr/kde/3.4/shutdown"
/etc/env.d/47kdepaths-3.3.1:PATH=/usr/kde/3.3/bin
/etc/env.d/47kdepaths-3.3.1:ROOTPATH=/usr/kde/3.3/sbin:/usr/kde/3.3/bin
/etc/env.d/47kdepaths-3.3.1:LDPATH=/usr/kde/3.3/lib
/etc/env.d/47kdepaths-3.3.1:CONFIG_PROTECT="/usr/kde/3.3/share/config /usr/kde/3.3/env /usr/kde/3.3/shutdown"
/etc/env.d/48kdepaths-3.2.3:PATH=/usr/kde/3.2/bin
/etc/env.d/48kdepaths-3.2.3:ROOTPATH=/usr/kde/3.2/sbin:/usr/kde/3.2/bin
/etc/env.d/48kdepaths-3.2.3:LDPATH=/usr/kde/3.2/lib
/etc/env.d/48kdepaths-3.2.3:CONFIG_PROTECT=/usr/kde/3.2/share/config
/etc/env.d/49kdepaths-3.1.5:PATH=/usr/kde/3.1/bin
/etc/env.d/49kdepaths-3.1.5:ROOTPATH=/usr/kde/3.1/sbin:/usr/kde/3.1/bin
/etc/env.d/49kdepaths-3.1.5:LDPATH=/usr/kde/3.1/lib
/etc/env.d/49kdepaths-3.1.5:CONFIG_PROTECT=/usr/kde/3.1/share/config
/etc/env.d/56kdedir-3.1.5:KDEDIR=/usr/kde/3.1
/etc/env.d/57kdedir-3.2.3:KDEDIR=/usr/kde/3.2
/etc/env.d/65kdelibs-3.1:PATH=/usr/kde/3.1/bin
/etc/env.d/65kdelibs-3.1:ROOTPATH=/usr/kde/3.1/bin
/etc/env.d/65kdelibs-3.1:LDPATH=/usr/kde/3.1/lib
/etc/env.d/65kdelibs-3.1:KDEDIRS=/usr/kde/3.1
/etc/env.d/65kdelibs-3.1:CONFIG_PROTECT=/usr/kde/3.1/share/config
#

> 
> Does Konqueror work?

Konqueror is a good example.  I just emerged konqueror, to try to fix it,
and it didn't fix it (and broke some other stuff, see below).  When I run
Konqueror it runs but first I get:

"There was an error loading the module About-Page for Konqueror.  The
 diagnostics is: /usr/kde/3.1/lib/kde3/konq_aboutpage.so: cannot open shared
 object file: No such file or directory"

I suspect that if I could figure out why konqueror (and other apps) seem to
still want to point to 3.1 libraries I could get to the bottom of my problems.

>  KMail?  KWrite?  Konsole?

Konsole works.  I don't run kmail, it messes with my email.

> Do most things work?

Other than kde stuff, my system is fine.  As for kde stuff, it's hit an
miss.  The kde desktop is usuable, but I get errors and things are missing.
Kedit works.

> The Control Center?

Control center runs, but most of the pages are just generic pages with
no accessible options.

> The Menu Editor?

I don't have it...not sure why.

> Looking back at your other emails...  Are you keeping the rest of 
> your system up-to-date?  

Yeah, most packages are up-to-date.

>What does 'emerge -Dup world' say (after a sync)?

Actually that emerge of konqueror I did last night really hosed some stuff
up and a bunch of kde packages went away (don't ask me why) and kde crashed,
so I'm re-emerging kdebase right now and can't check but I will get back to
you.  In general though, my system is very up to date.  It was a little out
of date, but in the process of trying to fix this I sync'd and emerged
most everything that needed it.

> Do you still have an old python-2.2* installed?

I think I removed it trying to get revdep-rebuild to work.

> What says 'eix -e python'?  (If you don't have eix installed, first do 
> 'emerge eix; update-eix'.)  What says 'emerge -p --depclean'?

I will get back to you with this info after kde finishes later today.

> Does revdep-rebuild now run without problems?

It did a few days ago, after much work.

> (And please don't tell us to trust you, we're just asking questions, 
> as you're not being very specific.)

OK, sorry.  I appreciate the help.

-Wes
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Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Wes Gray]

On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 12:57:09PM +0200, Benno Schulenberg wrote:

Here is the rest of the requested info:

> What does 'emerge -Dup world' say (after a > sync)?

# emerge -Dup world

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[blocks B     ] media-libs/giflib (is blocking media-libs/libungif-4.1.3)
[blocks B     ] media-libs/libquicktime (is blocking media-libs/openquicktime-1.
0-r1)
[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r1 [4.8]
[ebuild     U ] sys-devel/binutils-config-1.8-r5 [1.8-r3]
[ebuild     U ] sys-libs/glibc-2.3.5-r2 [2.3.5-r1]
[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/shadow-4.0.7-r4 [4.0.7-r3]
[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/util-linux-2.12r [2.12q-r3]
[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/utempter-0.5.5.6 [0.5.5.5-r1]
[ebuild     U ] x11-terms/xterm-204 [196]
[ebuild     U ] dev-libs/libIDL-0.8.6 [0.8.5]
[ebuild     U ] gnome-base/orbit-2.12.3 [2.12.2]
[ebuild     U ] gnome-base/libbonobo-2.10.1 [2.10.0]
[ebuild     U ] media-sound/esound-0.2.36-r1 [0.2.34]
[ebuild     U ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.10.1-r2 [2.10.1-r1]
[ebuild     U ] gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.10.1 [2.10.0]
[ebuild     U ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-2.6.5 [2.6.4-r2]
[ebuild     U ] app-text/gtkspell-2.0.11 [2.0.4-r1]
[ebuild  N    ] media-libs/giflib-4.1.3
[ebuild     U ] app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-4.1-r3 [4.1-r1]
[ebuild     U ] app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-4.0-r3 [4.0-r1]
[ebuild     U ] app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-3.0-r3 [3.0-r1]
[ebuild     U ] app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-3.1-r3 [3.1-r1]
[ebuild     U ] app-text/docbook-xml-simple-dtd-4.1.2.4-r2 [4.1.2.4]
[ebuild  NS   ] app-text/docbook-xml-simple-dtd-1.0-r1
[ebuild     U ] media-libs/a52dec-0.7.4-r5 [0.7.4-r4]
[ebuild     U ] www-client/links-2.1_pre18 [2.1_pre17-r1]
[ebuild  NS   ] app-text/docbook-xml-dtd-4.4
[ebuild     U ] app-text/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14 [0.6.11-r2]
[ebuild     U ] app-text/docbook-xml-dtd-4.1.2-r5 [4.1.2-r4]
[ebuild     U ] dev-perl/Compress-Zlib-1.35 [1.33]
[ebuild     U ] perl-core/digest-base-1.10 [1.05]
[ebuild     U ] dev-perl/Digest-SHA1-2.10 [2.07]
[ebuild     U ] dev-perl/Net-DNS-0.49 [0.48]
[ebuild     U ] perl-core/DB_File-1.811-r1 [1.811]
[ebuild     U ] app-text/enscript-1.6.3-r3 [1.6.3-r1]
[ebuild  NS   ] sys-apps/i2c-2.9.1
[ebuild  NS   ] sys-apps/lm_sensors-2.9.1-r1
[ebuild     U ] gnome-extra/gcalctool-5.5.42-r2 [5.5.42-r1]
[ebuild     U ] sys-libs/db-1.85-r2 [1.85-r1]
[ebuild     U ] gnome-base/gnome-print-0.37 [0.35-r3]
[ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdebase-pam-6 [4]
[ebuild     U ] gnome-base/gconf-1.0.9 [1.0.8-r3]
[ebuild  N    ] gnome-base/gnome-common-2.8.0
[ebuild     U ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-1.0.5-r4 [1.0.5-r2]
[ebuild     U ] gnome-extra/guppi-0.40.3-r2 [0.40.3-r1]
[ebuild     U ] dev-lang/swig-1.3.21 [1.3.10-r2]
[ebuild     U ] dev-libs/g-wrap-1.3.4-r1 [1.3.4]
[ebuild     U ] app-arch/sharutils-4.2.1-r11 [4.2.1-r10]
[ebuild     U ] sci-libs/fftw-3.0.1-r2 [3.0.1]
[ebuild     U ] x11-libs/gtkglext-1.0.6-r2 [1.0.5]
[ebuild     U ] dev-perl/libintl-perl-1.11 [1.10]
[ebuild     U ] media-libs/freetype-1.3.1-r4 [1.3.1-r3]
[ebuild  N    ] games-util/loki_setupdb-20050109
[ebuild  N    ] dev-util/xdelta-1.1.3
[ebuild  N    ] games-util/loki_patch-20050324
[ebuild  NS   ] x11-libs/wxGTK-2.6.1
[ebuild     U ] games-emulation/xmame-0.100 [0.97]
[ebuild     U ] gnome-base/gdm-2.8.0.3 [2.8.0.1-r1]
[ebuild     U ] media-gfx/xv-3.10a-r11 [3.10a-r3]
[ebuild     U ] net-im/centericq-4.21.0 [4.20.0-r3]
[ebuild     U ] sys-libs/db-3.2.9-r10 [3.2.9-r7]
[ebuild     U ] x11-themes/gnome-backgrounds-2.10.2 [2.10.1]
[ebuild     U ] gnome-base/gnome-2.10.2 [2.10-r1]
[ebuild     U ] dev-perl/Filter-1.30 [1.29]
[ebuild     U ] app-emulation/wine-20050725-r1 [20050524]
#

Oddly I tried unmerging giflib and it unmerged ok, but I still get the blocker.

> What says 'eix -e python'?

# eix -e python 
* dev-lang/python 
     Available versions:  2.1.3-r1 2.2.3-r6 2.3.4-r1 2.3.5 ~2.3.5-r1 2.3.5-r2 ~
2.4-r3 ~2.4.1 ~2.4.1-r1 ~2.4.2
     Installed:           2.2.3-r6 2.3.5-r2
     Homepage:            http://www.python.org/
     Description:         Python is an interpreted, interactive, object-orienta
ted programming language.


Found 1 matches
# 

> Does revdep-rebuild now run without problems?

yes, just reran it.

> What says 'emerge -p --depclean'?

# emerge -p --depclean

*** WARNING *** : DEPCLEAN CAN  SERIOUSLY  IMPAIR YOUR SYSTEM. USE CAUTION.
*** WARNING *** : (Cancel: CONTROL-C) -- ALWAYS VERIFY ALL PACKAGES IN THE
*** WARNING *** : CANDIDATE LIST FOR  SANITY  BEFORE  ALLOWING DEPCLEAN TO
*** WARNING *** : UNMERGE ANY PACKAGES.
*** WARNING *** :
*** WARNING *** : USE FLAGS MAY HAVE AN EXTREME EFFECT ON THE OUTPUT.
*** WARNING *** : SOME LIBRARIES MAY BE USED BY PACKAGES BUT ARE NOT
*** WARNING *** : CONSIDERED TO BE A DEPEND DUE TO USE FLAG SETTINGS.
*** WARNING *** : emerge --update --deep --newuse world TO VERIFY
*** WARNING *** : SANITY IN THIS REGARD.
*** WARNING *** :
*** WARNING *** : Packages  in the list  that are  desired  may be added
*** WARNING *** : directly to the world file to cause them to be ignored
*** WARNING *** : by depclean and maintained in the future. BREAKAGES DUE
*** WARNING *** : TO UNMERGING AN  ==IN-USE LIBRARY==  MAY BE REPAIRED BY
*** WARNING *** : MERGING  *** THE PACKAGE THAT COMPLAINS ***  ABOUT THE
*** WARNING *** : MISSING LIBRARY.

Calculating depclean dependencies ... done!
!!! There appears to be a problem with the following package:
!!! media-libs/libquicktime

!!! Please ensure that blocking/conflicting packages are not merged.!!! 'emerge -p media-libs/libquicktime

!!! There appears to be a problem with the following package:
!!! media-libs/giflib

!!! Please ensure that blocking/conflicting packages are not merged.!!! 'emerge -p media-libs/giflib

!!! There appears to be a problem with the following package:
!!! media-libs/openquicktime

!!! Please ensure that blocking/conflicting packages are not merged.!!! 'emerge -p media-libs/openquicktime


>>> These are the packages that I would unmerge:


!!! Trying to unmerge package(s) in system profile. 'app-editors/nano'
!!! This could be damaging to your system.



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    selected: 1.4
   protected: none
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    selected: 5.1-r1
   protected: none
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>>> 'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
>>> 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed.


Packages installed:   960
Packages in world:    457
Packages in system:   59
Unique package names: 867
Required packages:    897
Number to remove:     83
# 

-Wes
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Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Benno Schulenberg]

Wes Gray wrote:
> # grep kde /var/lib/portage/world | sort
> kde-base/arts
> kde-base/kde-env
> kde-base/kde-meta
> kde-base/kdebase-meta
> kde-base/kdelibs
> kde-base/konqueror

Hmm, if I'm not mistaken, if you've emerged kde-meta, none of the 
other kde things should be in your world file.  You've probably 
done a few emerges without using the --oneshot option.  When all 
the things below don't help, or have heleped, you may want to 
delete the superfluous lines and do a fresh 'emerge -Du world', 
just to be sure all is okay.

> # grep kde /etc/env.d/*
> /etc/env.d/46kdepaths-3.4:PATH=/usr/kde/3.4/bin
> /etc/env.d/46kdepaths-3.4:ROOTPATH=/usr/kde/3.4/sbin:/usr/kde/3.4
>/bin /etc/env.d/46kdepaths-3.4:LDPATH=/usr/kde/3.4/lib
> /etc/env.d/46kdepaths-3.4:CONFIG_PROTECT="/usr/kde/3.4/share/conf
>ig /usr/kde/3.4/env /usr/kde/3.4/shutdown"

Delete all the other kde files from /etc/env.d/, keeping only the 
3.4 one.  The older ones are not needed any more since you've 
uninstalled those versions, no?  This may solve some of your 
problems by removing that KDEDIR env var.

> I suspect that if I could figure out why konqueror (and other
> apps) seem to still want to point to 3.1 libraries I could get to
> the bottom of my problems.

Maybe because of that KDEDIR var.  When you've deleted the obsolete 
env files, do 'env-update' and restart KDE.

> # emerge -Dup world
> [...]

Okay, your system looks pretty much up-to-date.  But:

> [ebuild     U ] kde-base/kdebase-pam-6 [4]

Try updating this one, with 'emerge --oneshot kdebase-pam'.  It may 
solve some access problems, maybe those of kicker.  After emerging, 
log out and back in.

> # eix -e python
>[...]
>      Installed:           2.2.3-r6 2.3.5-r2

The ancient version is still installed, no harm in it probably, but 
no need for it either.  If you wish, unmerge it with 'emerge -C 
=python-2.2.3-r6', ignoring the warning.

> # emerge -p --depclean
> [...]
> !!! There appears to be a problem with the following package:
> !!! media-libs/libquicktime

Use 'eix -e ...'  to see which of these packages, libquicktime, 
openquicktime, giflib, libungif, you've got installed, uninstall 
each of them with 'emerge -C =...', and later let a fresh 'emerge 
-Du world' install the one's that are really needed.

That's a long list...  So first resolve the blocking issues (if it 
gives you trouble, search bugs.gentoo.org or the forums or the 
archives of this list), then run 'emerge --depclean' in earnest to 
get rid of all the obsoletes, after that do a 'revdep-rebuild', and 
conclude with 'emerge -Du world'.

Perseverance,

Benno
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Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Wes Gray]

On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 10:17:20PM +0200, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> Delete all the other kde files from /etc/env.d/, keeping only the 
> 3.4 one.  The older ones are not needed any more since you've 
> uninstalled those versions, no?  This may solve some of your 
> problems by removing that KDEDIR env var.

That solved everything!  I didn't have to emerge or anything.  You
are wonderful!  I'm still going to go through and do the other things
you suggest here to get my system cleaned up.  Thank you so much for
the help.

-Wes
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Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Benno Schulenberg]

Wes Gray wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 10:17:20PM +0200, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> > Delete all the other kde files from /etc/env.d/, keeping only
> > the 3.4 one.  The older ones are not needed any more since
> > you've uninstalled those versions, no?  This may solve some of
> > your problems by removing that KDEDIR env var.
>
> That solved everything!  I didn't have to emerge or anything. 
> You are wonderful!

:)  Thanks.

> I'm still going to go through and do the 
> other things you suggest here to get my system cleaned up.

Take care with the depcleaning, it can cripple your system 
completely.  Most of the things in your depclean list look 
harmless, except for acl and attr -- they tripped me up several 
moons ago.  To play it safe, first tar up /lib and /usr/lib, and if 
after the cleaning anything starts to fail, re-extract the missing 
lib.  If even tar should fail, use 'busybox tar' instead.

After you're done with that, you may want to clean up your world 
file, as suggested by Richard.  And after that, another round of 
depcleaning.

Benno
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Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Richard Fish]

> kde-base/kdeaccessibility
>    selected: 3.3.2
>   protected: none
>     omitted: none
>  
>

This one tells me that you've got old versions of KDE merged alongside 
the current version.  I suspect path and library problems are the result...

My suggestion is to:

ls -ld /var/db/pkg/kde-base/*-3[0-3]*

This will give you a list of all old kde packages that are merged.  You 
can then unmerge those, then do a revdep-rebuild.


>Packages in world:    457
>

This is a huge number of packages.  As Benno suggested, this probably 
means you have [re]merged packages without the --oneshot flag, so they 
got added to your world file, and portage now things you require those 
packages regardless of any dependancies.

The following script will show you all packages in world that are not 
depended on by something else.  Most (but not ALL!!) can be safely 
removed from world.  For example, sys-portage/portage is not depended on 
by something else, but it would be very bad to remove it from world!!

    cat /var/lib/portage/world | while read pkg; do
        count=`equery depends "$pkg" | wc -l`
        test $count -eq 0 && echo "pkg"
    done

This may or may not have an effect on your KDE installation.  Mostly, 
this just a case of portage cleanup.

HTH,
-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Richard Fish]

Richard Fish wrote:

>
>    cat /var/lib/portage/world | while read pkg; do
>        count=`equery depends "$pkg" | wc -l`
>        test $count -eq 0 && echo "pkg"
>    done


Um, sorry, I'm a complete idiot sometimes.  You want to remove from 
world packages that are included as a dependancy of something else.  So 
that "-eq 0" above should be "-gt 0".  But again, some results are not 
going to be safe to remove from world, like sys-libs/glibc.

Again, my apologies...


-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] help

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 20:59:16 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:

> For example, sys-portage/portage is not depended on 
> by something else, but it would be very bad to remove it from world!!

Why? I have neither portage nor glibc in world. portage is part of system
and glibc is a dependency of just about everything.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

A computer scientist is someone who, when told to "Go to Hell,"
sees the "go to," rather than the destination, as harmful.

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[gentoo-user] Help

[C.Beamer]

Hi All,

After getting side-tracked by a power outage in the middle of a Gentoo
install a couple of weeks ago, I finally got back to doing a Gentoo
install trial run.

All seemed to go well.  When I rebooted I got the menu with the two
selections listed (Gentoo and DOS).  The computer will boot into DOS
okay, but I can't get it to boot into Gentoo.  Ergo, I think the grub
install is fine, but I made an error in my grub.conf file.

Since I'm only moderately savvy about editing configuration files, I
relied on the examples in the Gentoo Handbook.

Details are as follows:

I have a dual boot system:

hda1 is DOS
hda2 is /boot
hda3 is swap
hda4 is my extended partition
hda5 is /root

The grub.conf file that I entered is as follows:

default 0
timeout 30

splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz

title=Genoo Linux 2.6.12-r6

root (hda0, 1)
kernel /kernel-2.6.12-gentoo-r6 root=/dev/ram0 init=linuxrc ramdisk=8192
real_root=/dev/hda5 udev
initrd /initrd-2.6.12-gentoo-r6

title=DOS
root (hda0,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1

I put the initrd line in the grub.conf file even though when I ran the
command

'ls /boot/kernel* /boot/initrd*'

as instructed in the Handbook, I got told that there was no initrdfile.

Have I missed something or done something wrong?

Is there a way to fix the grub.conf file?

I tried selecting the Gentoo line from the menu and pressing 'e' to
edit, but no matter what changes I made, I still get an error message
when I try to boot into Gentoo that says:

Error 15:  File not found

This displays immediatedly after the line

kernel /kernel-2.6.12-gentoo-r6 root=/dev/ram0 init=linuxrc ramdisk=8192
real_root=/dev/hda5 udev

Any assistance would be appreciated.  And please remember, I am not
stupid, but I'm not a computer science grad.  I've been running Linux at
home for about 3 years and dabbling with it for a couple of years before
that, but I've always used Redhat or Fedora.  However, I'm finding that
with each release of Fedora, more "quirks" appear.  Things that I was
able to do with no problem in a previous release, I now can't do without
"letting some blood".  Hence, I wanted to try Gentoo because I can
install the software from source using emerge.  This will be a learning
curve for me, but I can conquer it - I have come a long way since a
friend first mentioned Linux to me and I asked what it was!

Anyway, the point of the previous paragraph is to ask that complete
details be stated for any help that is provided.  And if you tell me
that I "screwed up royally" and have to start all over, that's okay. 
That's what this exercise was for - to learn what I needed to know
before installing Gentoo on a "production" system.

BTW, I did a "Stage 3" install.  Since it was my first time and I don't
know anything about optimizations, I didn't want to get in over my
head.  :-)

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

Respectfully,

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help

[Stroller]

On Jul 24, 2005, at 6:23 pm, C.Beamer wrote:
>
> hda1 is DOS
> hda2 is /boot
> hda3 is swap
> hda4 is my extended partition
> hda5 is /root
>
> The grub.conf file that I entered is as follows:
>
> default 0
> timeout 30
>
> splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
>
> title=Genoo Linux 2.6.12-r6
>
> root (hda0, 1)
> kernel /kernel-2.6.12-gentoo-r6 root=/dev/ram0 init=linuxrc 
> ramdisk=8192
> real_root=/dev/hda5 udev
> initrd /initrd-2.6.12-gentoo-r6

I haven't tried booting with a RAM disk, so I can't comment on the 
other lines, but in the first there should be no space after the comma. 
IE:
    root (hda0,1)

as you've done correctly below:

> title=DOS
> root (hda0,0)
> makeactive
> chainloader +1
>

> ...
> Is there a way to fix the grub.conf file?

I always do so by booting from the Gentoo LiveCD, mounting /dev/hda2 to 
/mount/gentoo, editing grub.conf with `nano` and then rebooting. You 
can experiment amply like this until you get it right.

Stroller.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help

[Martins Steinbergs]

remove space in root (hda0, 1)

my kernel line also has devfs=nomount  but probably this isnt needed if using 
latest genkernel, dont know.

Martins


On Sunday 24 July 2005 20:23, C.Beamer wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> After getting side-tracked by a power outage in the middle of a Gentoo
> install a couple of weeks ago, I finally got back to doing a Gentoo
> install trial run.
>
> All seemed to go well.  When I rebooted I got the menu with the two
> selections listed (Gentoo and DOS).  The computer will boot into DOS
> okay, but I can't get it to boot into Gentoo.  Ergo, I think the grub
> install is fine, but I made an error in my grub.conf file.
>
> Since I'm only moderately savvy about editing configuration files, I
> relied on the examples in the Gentoo Handbook.
>
> Details are as follows:
>
> I have a dual boot system:
>
> hda1 is DOS
> hda2 is /boot
> hda3 is swap
> hda4 is my extended partition
> hda5 is /root
>
> The grub.conf file that I entered is as follows:
>
> default 0
> timeout 30
>
> splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
>
> title=Genoo Linux 2.6.12-r6
>
> root (hda0, 1)
> kernel /kernel-2.6.12-gentoo-r6 root=/dev/ram0 init=linuxrc ramdisk=8192
> real_root=/dev/hda5 udev
> initrd /initrd-2.6.12-gentoo-r6
>
> title=DOS
> root (hda0,0)
> makeactive
> chainloader +1
>
> I put the initrd line in the grub.conf file even though when I ran the
> command
>
> 'ls /boot/kernel* /boot/initrd*'
>
> as instructed in the Handbook, I got told that there was no initrdfile.
>
> Have I missed something or done something wrong?
>
> Is there a way to fix the grub.conf file?
>
> I tried selecting the Gentoo line from the menu and pressing 'e' to
> edit, but no matter what changes I made, I still get an error message
> when I try to boot into Gentoo that says:
>
> Error 15:  File not found
>
> This displays immediatedly after the line
>
> kernel /kernel-2.6.12-gentoo-r6 root=/dev/ram0 init=linuxrc ramdisk=8192
> real_root=/dev/hda5 udev
>
> Any assistance would be appreciated.  And please remember, I am not
> stupid, but I'm not a computer science grad.  I've been running Linux at
> home for about 3 years and dabbling with it for a couple of years before
> that, but I've always used Redhat or Fedora.  However, I'm finding that
> with each release of Fedora, more "quirks" appear.  Things that I was
> able to do with no problem in a previous release, I now can't do without
> "letting some blood".  Hence, I wanted to try Gentoo because I can
> install the software from source using emerge.  This will be a learning
> curve for me, but I can conquer it - I have come a long way since a
> friend first mentioned Linux to me and I asked what it was!
>
> Anyway, the point of the previous paragraph is to ask that complete
> details be stated for any help that is provided.  And if you tell me
> that I "screwed up royally" and have to start all over, that's okay.
> That's what this exercise was for - to learn what I needed to know
> before installing Gentoo on a "production" system.
>
> BTW, I did a "Stage 3" install.  Since it was my first time and I don't
> know anything about optimizations, I didn't want to get in over my
> head.  :-)
>
> Thanks in advance for any assistance.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] Help

[Richard Fish]

Martins Steinbergs wrote:

>remove space in root (hda0, 1)
>
>  
>

Actually, that should be (hd0,1), like you have for the splashimage.

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help

[C.Beamer]

Hi,

Thanks all for noticing the "typo".  However, this was a typo in the
e-mail, not in the boot.conf file.  :-)

Regards,

Colleen

Richard Fish wrote:

> Martins Steinbergs wrote:
>
>> remove space in root (hda0, 1)
>>
>>
>>
>
> Actually, that should be (hd0,1), like you have for the
> splashimage.
>
> -Richard
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help

[Richard Fish]

C.Beamer wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Thanks all for noticing the "typo".  However, this was a typo in the
>e-mail, not in the boot.conf file.  :-)
>
>  
>

So, what does you actual boot.conf file contain? "(hd0,1)" or "(hda0,1)"?

-Richard

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RE: [gentoo-user] Help

[Alex A. Smith MCP]

Hi,

Have you made sure of the filenames of the init ram disk and the kernel?

Only reason I say this is because the other day when I did a Stage 3
Genkernel the files were named something completely different from what is
in the handbook. (I think initrd was something along the lines of
initramdisk-<more text> and the both included genkernel in the file name)

I had myself wondering over that for a while :)

hth

Alex A. Smith

p.s. im installing a gentoo 2.6.12-r6 Stage 3 genkernel atm so I'll let you
know when its done if the above didn't help ya.

-----Original Message-----
From: C.Beamer [mailto:cbeamer@interlynx.net] 
Sent: 24 July 2005 18:24
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Help

Hi All,

After getting side-tracked by a power outage in the middle of a Gentoo
install a couple of weeks ago, I finally got back to doing a Gentoo
install trial run.

All seemed to go well.  When I rebooted I got the menu with the two
selections listed (Gentoo and DOS).  The computer will boot into DOS
okay, but I can't get it to boot into Gentoo.  Ergo, I think the grub
install is fine, but I made an error in my grub.conf file.

Since I'm only moderately savvy about editing configuration files, I
relied on the examples in the Gentoo Handbook.

Details are as follows:

I have a dual boot system:

hda1 is DOS
hda2 is /boot
hda3 is swap
hda4 is my extended partition
hda5 is /root

The grub.conf file that I entered is as follows:

default 0
timeout 30

splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz

title=Genoo Linux 2.6.12-r6

root (hda0, 1)
kernel /kernel-2.6.12-gentoo-r6 root=/dev/ram0 init=linuxrc ramdisk=8192
real_root=/dev/hda5 udev
initrd /initrd-2.6.12-gentoo-r6

title=DOS
root (hda0,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1

I put the initrd line in the grub.conf file even though when I ran the
command

'ls /boot/kernel* /boot/initrd*'

as instructed in the Handbook, I got told that there was no initrdfile.

Have I missed something or done something wrong?

Is there a way to fix the grub.conf file?

I tried selecting the Gentoo line from the menu and pressing 'e' to
edit, but no matter what changes I made, I still get an error message
when I try to boot into Gentoo that says:

Error 15:  File not found

This displays immediatedly after the line

kernel /kernel-2.6.12-gentoo-r6 root=/dev/ram0 init=linuxrc ramdisk=8192
real_root=/dev/hda5 udev

Any assistance would be appreciated.  And please remember, I am not
stupid, but I'm not a computer science grad.  I've been running Linux at
home for about 3 years and dabbling with it for a couple of years before
that, but I've always used Redhat or Fedora.  However, I'm finding that
with each release of Fedora, more "quirks" appear.  Things that I was
able to do with no problem in a previous release, I now can't do without
"letting some blood".  Hence, I wanted to try Gentoo because I can
install the software from source using emerge.  This will be a learning
curve for me, but I can conquer it - I have come a long way since a
friend first mentioned Linux to me and I asked what it was!

Anyway, the point of the previous paragraph is to ask that complete
details be stated for any help that is provided.  And if you tell me
that I "screwed up royally" and have to start all over, that's okay. 
That's what this exercise was for - to learn what I needed to know
before installing Gentoo on a "production" system.

BTW, I did a "Stage 3" install.  Since it was my first time and I don't
know anything about optimizations, I didn't want to get in over my
head.  :-)

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

Respectfully,

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help

[Martins Steinbergs]

i was wondering too ;)

corect is initramfs, not initramdisk, see my grub.conf entry

title Gentoo 11.12 - vanilla
	root (hd1,2)
	kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86_64-2.6.11.12 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc 
ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hdb9 video=radeonfb:mtrr:ywrap vga=7 
splash=silent udev devfs=nomount
	initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86_64-2.6.11.12

On Monday 25 July 2005 02:31, Alex A. Smith MCP wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Have you made sure of the filenames of the init ram disk and the kernel?
>
> Only reason I say this is because the other day when I did a Stage 3
> Genkernel the files were named something completely different from what is
> in the handbook. (I think initrd was something along the lines of
> initramdisk-<more text> and the both included genkernel in the file name)
>
> I had myself wondering over that for a while :)
>
> hth
>
> Alex A. Smith
>
> p.s. im installing a gentoo 2.6.12-r6 Stage 3 genkernel atm so I'll let you
> know when its done if the above didn't help ya.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C.Beamer [mailto:cbeamer@interlynx.net]
> Sent: 24 July 2005 18:24
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: [gentoo-user] Help
>
> Hi All,
>
> After getting side-tracked by a power outage in the middle of a Gentoo
> install a couple of weeks ago, I finally got back to doing a Gentoo
> install trial run.
>
> All seemed to go well.  When I rebooted I got the menu with the two
> selections listed (Gentoo and DOS).  The computer will boot into DOS
> okay, but I can't get it to boot into Gentoo.  Ergo, I think the grub
> install is fine, but I made an error in my grub.conf file.
>
> Since I'm only moderately savvy about editing configuration files, I
> relied on the examples in the Gentoo Handbook.
>
> Details are as follows:
>
> I have a dual boot system:
>
> hda1 is DOS
> hda2 is /boot
> hda3 is swap
> hda4 is my extended partition
> hda5 is /root
>
> The grub.conf file that I entered is as follows:
>
> default 0
> timeout 30
>
> splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
>
> title=Genoo Linux 2.6.12-r6
>
> root (hda0, 1)
> kernel /kernel-2.6.12-gentoo-r6 root=/dev/ram0 init=linuxrc ramdisk=8192
> real_root=/dev/hda5 udev
> initrd /initrd-2.6.12-gentoo-r6
>
> title=DOS
> root (hda0,0)
> makeactive
> chainloader +1
>
> I put the initrd line in the grub.conf file even though when I ran the
> command
>
> 'ls /boot/kernel* /boot/initrd*'
>
> as instructed in the Handbook, I got told that there was no initrdfile.
>
> Have I missed something or done something wrong?
>
> Is there a way to fix the grub.conf file?
>
> I tried selecting the Gentoo line from the menu and pressing 'e' to
> edit, but no matter what changes I made, I still get an error message
> when I try to boot into Gentoo that says:
>
> Error 15:  File not found
>
> This displays immediatedly after the line
>
> kernel /kernel-2.6.12-gentoo-r6 root=/dev/ram0 init=linuxrc ramdisk=8192
> real_root=/dev/hda5 udev
>
> Any assistance would be appreciated.  And please remember, I am not
> stupid, but I'm not a computer science grad.  I've been running Linux at
> home for about 3 years and dabbling with it for a couple of years before
> that, but I've always used Redhat or Fedora.  However, I'm finding that
> with each release of Fedora, more "quirks" appear.  Things that I was
> able to do with no problem in a previous release, I now can't do without
> "letting some blood".  Hence, I wanted to try Gentoo because I can
> install the software from source using emerge.  This will be a learning
> curve for me, but I can conquer it - I have come a long way since a
> friend first mentioned Linux to me and I asked what it was!
>
> Anyway, the point of the previous paragraph is to ask that complete
> details be stated for any help that is provided.  And if you tell me
> that I "screwed up royally" and have to start all over, that's okay.
> That's what this exercise was for - to learn what I needed to know
> before installing Gentoo on a "production" system.
>
> BTW, I did a "Stage 3" install.  Since it was my first time and I don't
> know anything about optimizations, I didn't want to get in over my
> head.  :-)
>
> Thanks in advance for any assistance.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Colleen
>
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