From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KDLpK-0005Sy-78 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:02:02 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 27908E0403; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:02:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailgw1.fraunhofer.de (mailgw1.fraunhofer.de [153.96.1.17]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED6CE0403 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:02:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailgw1.fraunhofer.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw1.fraunhofer.de[host mailgw12] (8.14.2+/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5UG20lu005223 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:02:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de (pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de [195.37.77.164]) by mailgw1.fraunhofer.de (8.14.2+/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5UG1xa7005217 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:02:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from EXCHSRV.fokus.fraunhofer.de (bohr [10.147.9.231]) by pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de (8.13.7/8.13.7) with SMTP id m5UG1xc0020679 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:01:59 +0200 (MEST) Received: from rigel ([10.147.65.195]) by EXCHSRV.fokus.fraunhofer.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:01:59 +0200 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:01:59 +0200 From: Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's Message-ID: <48690377.XiYo9UrGh/5f63RU%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> References: <48661a29.5Eb8BUNqea1Furr1%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <200806281436.57107.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <48676c74.Ps41+lT9sQIWOLyS%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <734BA27D-F65B-48E9-A198-9BD9B7587A65@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <734BA27D-F65B-48E9-A198-9BD9B7587A65@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> User-Agent: nail 11.22 3/20/05 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2008 16:01:59.0694 (UTC) FILETIME=[A0D9DAE0:01C8DACA] X-Fraunhofer-Email-Policy: accepted Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 1bfabea8-6a8a-40a5-ae13-d04f548c5422 X-Archives-Hash: d9582c06d782de2c227d870dbccff0b7 Stroller wrote: > I wrote that the *thread* - digressing from useful discussion about =20 > software tools and into religion - was pissing me off. This is why I tried not to answer your first question. I know that this u= sually=20 happens and try to avoid it. > I asked because I wanted to hear your point of view and your reason =20 > (for changing license to CDDL). This is not very obvious when =20 > searching the web, and the reason given on your website (which I only =20 > found after asking the question) is somewhat vague. > > Why is the CDDL "more free" and why do you particularly like it? Well, the information is in the cdrtools FAQ and parts are in the Sun CDD= L FAQ. > When I searched the web I rather expected to find loads of mailing-=20 > list posts, blog entries and other articles and that half of them =20 > would announce what a rotter you are, the other half how poor old =20 > Joerg has been stitched up. But it is NOT so obvious from Googling. Charity is what you get for free, enviousness is something you need to ea= rn ;-) You get this kind of enemies if you get a certain degree of familarity. > As I told you already I might quite aggressively support your =20 > software if you would just make the effort to convince me. No one =20 > else on this list mistook my question for antagonism. I deliberately =20 > tried to be polite and tactful when asking you, and it did me no good =20 > at all! Frankly, therefore, I can see why everyone is "against you" =20 > if you insist on misconstruing an innocent question as an attack. If =20 > my example is anything to go by then I can only assume that the whole =20 > Debian and Bloch fiasco is the result of your own over-reaction =20 > (sorry to be so honest about how I see things!). This is obviously a missinterpretation of the facts. What people with english mothertonge believe is a courtesy, is usually=20 seen as a underlying attack by Germans. Try to just be direct and there w= ill be less missunderstanding. J=F6rg --=20 EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) J=F6rg Schilling D-13353 = Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) =20 schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogs= pot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/s= chily --=20 gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list