From: Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling)
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:01:59 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48690377.XiYo9UrGh/5f63RU%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <734BA27D-F65B-48E9-A198-9BD9B7587A65@stellar.eclipse.co.uk>
Stroller <stroller@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
> I wrote that the *thread* - digressing from useful discussion about
> software tools and into religion - was pissing me off.
This is why I tried not to answer your first question. I know that this usually
happens and try to avoid it.
> I asked because I wanted to hear your point of view and your reason
> (for changing license to CDDL). This is not very obvious when
> searching the web, and the reason given on your website (which I only
> found after asking the question) is somewhat vague.
>
> Why is the CDDL "more free" and why do you particularly like it?
Well, the information is in the cdrtools FAQ and parts are in the Sun CDDL FAQ.
> When I searched the web I rather expected to find loads of mailing-
> list posts, blog entries and other articles and that half of them
> would announce what a rotter you are, the other half how poor old
> Joerg has been stitched up. But it is NOT so obvious from Googling.
Charity is what you get for free, enviousness is something you need to earn ;-)
You get this kind of enemies if you get a certain degree of familarity.
> As I told you already I might quite aggressively support your
> software if you would just make the effort to convince me. No one
> else on this list mistook my question for antagonism. I deliberately
> tried to be polite and tactful when asking you, and it did me no good
> at all! Frankly, therefore, I can see why everyone is "against you"
> if you insist on misconstruing an innocent question as an attack. If
> my example is anything to go by then I can only assume that the whole
> Debian and Bloch fiasco is the result of your own over-reaction
> (sorry to be so honest about how I see things!).
This is obviously a missinterpretation of the facts.
What people with english mothertonge believe is a courtesy, is usually
seen as a underlying attack by Germans. Try to just be direct and there will
be less missunderstanding.
Jörg
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2008-06-25 20:21 [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's Yoav Luft
2008-06-25 21:01 ` Uwe Thiem
2008-06-25 21:50 ` John covici
2008-06-26 9:46 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-26 10:23 ` John covici
2008-06-26 10:53 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-26 11:06 ` John covici
2008-06-26 11:16 ` Mark Kirkwood
2008-06-26 11:20 ` Mark Kirkwood
2008-06-26 11:34 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-26 11:57 ` John covici
2008-06-26 12:15 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-07-01 11:08 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-26 21:09 ` Mark Kirkwood
2008-06-26 21:23 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-26 22:32 ` Mark Kirkwood
2008-06-27 8:30 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-07-01 11:16 ` [gentoo-user] OT: intentionally broken media Enrico Weigelt
2008-07-03 8:55 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-07-03 23:23 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-07-04 10:32 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-07-04 21:12 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-07-07 11:51 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-27 9:00 ` [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's Alan McKinnon
2008-06-27 9:25 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-27 9:50 ` Stroller
2008-06-27 9:57 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-27 10:06 ` Stroller
2008-06-27 18:50 ` Daniel Iliev
2008-06-27 22:20 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-27 22:53 ` b.n.
2008-06-28 9:12 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-28 1:41 ` Daniel Iliev
2008-06-28 9:26 ` Stroller
2008-06-28 11:02 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-28 11:54 ` b.n.
2008-06-28 20:59 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-29 1:11 ` b.n.
2008-06-29 1:55 ` Mark Kirkwood
2008-06-29 9:42 ` b.n.
2008-06-29 10:02 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-06-29 10:46 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-29 12:29 ` b.n.
2008-06-29 13:26 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-29 16:28 ` b.n.
2008-06-30 15:46 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-30 21:50 ` b.n.
2008-06-30 22:13 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-30 23:15 ` b.n.
2008-06-30 23:28 ` Mike Edenfield
2008-07-01 9:22 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-07-01 7:44 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-07-03 3:42 ` Aaron Clark
2008-07-03 12:03 ` Joerg Schilling
[not found] ` <48678d82.rmfIMzIpF6v323D6%Joerg.Sch illing@fokus.fraunhofer.de>
2008-06-29 14:49 ` [gentoo-user] " James
2008-06-28 12:10 ` [gentoo-user] " Volker Armin Hemmann
2008-06-28 12:36 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-06-29 11:05 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-29 11:47 ` Sascha Hlusiak
2008-06-29 13:18 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-29 14:02 ` Sascha Hlusiak
2008-06-29 19:10 ` Stroller
2008-06-30 16:08 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-30 17:29 ` brullo nulla
2008-07-01 8:52 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-29 19:00 ` Stroller
2008-06-30 16:01 ` Joerg Schilling [this message]
2008-06-28 16:41 ` Stroller
2008-06-28 10:06 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-28 11:47 ` b.n.
2008-06-28 20:33 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-29 0:00 ` Daniel Iliev
2008-06-29 12:02 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-29 16:51 ` Daniel Iliev
2008-06-28 18:33 ` Daniel Iliev
2008-06-29 9:50 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-06-29 11:37 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-29 16:18 ` Daniel Iliev
2008-06-29 16:23 ` Daniel Iliev
2008-06-29 23:43 ` Sebastian Günther
2008-06-30 8:47 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-30 18:24 ` Sebastian Günther
2008-07-01 12:26 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-07-01 12:18 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-07-01 11:44 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-07-01 17:12 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-07-01 18:39 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-27 9:54 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-07-01 11:39 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-07-01 17:06 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-07-03 22:55 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-26 11:16 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-26 13:29 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-07-01 11:05 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-28 12:14 ` Mick
2008-06-28 12:25 ` John covici
2008-06-29 10:51 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-27 9:21 ` Yoav Luft
2008-06-27 9:27 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-07-01 11:02 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-07-01 17:15 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-07-03 23:35 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-07-04 10:33 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-07-04 13:34 ` John covici
2008-07-04 13:51 ` Daniel Pielmeier
2008-07-04 21:08 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-07-07 11:42 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-26 5:53 ` Stroller
2008-06-26 7:53 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-06-26 12:08 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2008-06-26 13:38 ` Uwe Thiem
2008-06-26 15:00 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-26 1:38 ` W.Kenworthy
2008-06-26 10:21 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-26 3:26 ` Mark Shields
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