Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

["b.n." <brullonulla@gmail.com>]

Joerg Schilling ha scritto:
> "b.n." <brullonulla@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Again, it is entirely possible that Joerg, despite his somehow weird 
>> behaviour, could be right. But I fail to see the strong evidence that 
>> should backup his strong statements.
> 
> So you like to tell us that if a few people like to spread a lie, all they need
> to do is to create a web of pointers to copies of this lie?

Well, that's exactly what happens everyday. Welcome to the real world. :)

But that's irrelevant to our discussion, because I do not want a "web of 
pointers to copies". I want a single pointer to the (hopefully public) 
mailing list thread(s) where you discussed with Bloch and you were 
attacked by him.

Where is this thread?

> A single person who tells the truth seems to have no chance in your world
> because people do not make a reality check on statements but just count the 
> number of copies?

It has all chances possible. It is enough to bring *proof*. Not a 
billion copies of proof: just proof. That "number of copies" stuff is 
something you put into the discussion and that I never, ever asked for.

> It would be easy to check timelines to get an impression of the credibility 
> of the people around Bloch.
> 
> I should mention that Bloch did not get much attention inside Debian with his 
> hirst attack which started around 2004. The CDDL was accepted by Debian and 
> nobody complained in February 2005 when I changed the first project from GPL to 
> CDDL. Nothing happened after I published the first OpenSolaris distribution on 
> June 17th 2005 - 3 days after the first OpenSolaris source was out. The attacks 
> from Debian against the CDDL started in September 2005 after the Nexenta distro 
> (Debian userland on top of Solaris) was published.
> 
> A year later but still a week _before_ the "cdrkit project" started, Debian 
> finally accepted the CDDL as free license. The people from the cdrkit "project"
> still claim that the "fork" was done because the CDDL is not free. Do you 
> believe people who repeatedly contradict themself?

I don't care about "credibility". I care about individual statements.
As far as I have understood, the problem is not CDDL not being free, but 
being incompatible with the GPL in the particular build system you 
choose for cdrtools. So, I see no contradiction here. Maybe I'm wrong, 
but again, we want *proof*.

m.
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