From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KCuQB-0007cO-5b for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:46:17 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 112CFE0466; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:46:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailgw1.fraunhofer.de (mailgw1.fraunhofer.de [153.96.1.17]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9015E0469 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:46:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailgw1.fraunhofer.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw1.fraunhofer.de[host mailgw13] (8.14.2+/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5TAkDsH005566 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 12:46:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de (pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de [195.37.77.164]) by mailgw1.fraunhofer.de (8.14.2+/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5TAkCED005558 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 12:46:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from EXCHSRV.fokus.fraunhofer.de (bohr [10.147.9.231]) by pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de (8.13.7/8.13.7) with SMTP id m5TAkCCA012304 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 12:46:12 +0200 (MEST) Received: from rigel ([10.147.65.195]) by EXCHSRV.fokus.fraunhofer.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 29 Jun 2008 12:46:12 +0200 Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 12:46:12 +0200 From: Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's Message-ID: <486767f4.o+VLSGRyAUxpg8aR%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> References: <4864059A.7070602@paradise.net.nz> <486408e8.H6jJprFk5Zz6c8f9%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <200806271100.15762.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <4864b227.lYMApV4Tx50fgp98%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <28FC20CF-A74D-4C91-8F0C-9CEA66599471@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> <4864b997.wuGCZVlMdDQKTIxH%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <20080627215052.381fe4ed@ilievnet.com> <486567c2.PzqXKZJYaHOvK7F7%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <20080628044126.3f44efe2@ilievnet.com> <48661a29.5Eb8BUNqea1Furr1%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <4866268E.5030105@gmail.com> <4866a630.tLLeKsLancNqYyd7%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <4866E15A.5060608@gmail.com> <4866EB78.2040105@paradise.net.nz> <4867590F.2030901@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4867590F.2030901@gmail.com> User-Agent: nail 11.22 3/20/05 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jun 2008 10:46:12.0298 (UTC) FILETIME=[58E8EAA0:01C8D9D5] X-Fraunhofer-Email-Policy: accepted Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: cac2b5da-b2f4-413e-9bf4-5177461ccc09 X-Archives-Hash: 484fcb68f24e419728fcead1f85777ec "b.n." wrote: > Again, it is entirely possible that Joerg, despite his somehow weird=20 > behaviour, could be right. But I fail to see the strong evidence that=20 > should backup his strong statements. So you like to tell us that if a few people like to spread a lie, all the= y need to do is to create a web of pointers to copies of this lie? A single person who tells the truth seems to have no chance in your world because people do not make a reality check on statements but just count t= he=20 number of copies? This "web of lies" is very efficient. Nobody seems to care that the claim= s=20 from the people around Bloch live in a world of reversed timelines. Why e= lse would people believe claims that obviously reverse cause and effect? It would be easy to check timelines to get an impression of the credibili= ty=20 of the people around Bloch. I should mention that Bloch did not get much attention inside Debian with= his=20 hirst attack which started around 2004. The CDDL was accepted by Debian a= nd=20 nobody complained in February 2005 when I changed the first project from = GPL to=20 CDDL. Nothing happened after I published the first OpenSolaris distributi= on on=20 June 17th 2005 - 3 days after the first OpenSolaris source was out. The a= ttacks=20 from Debian against the CDDL started in September 2005 after the Nexenta = distro=20 (Debian userland on top of Solaris) was published. A year later but still a week _before_ the "cdrkit project" started, Debi= an=20 finally accepted the CDDL as free license. The people from the cdrkit "pr= oject" still claim that the "fork" was done because the CDDL is not free. Do you= =20 believe people who repeatedly contradict themself? J=F6rg --=20 EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) J=F6rg Schilling D-13353 = Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) =20 schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogs= pot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/s= chily --=20 gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list