From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KCtJ8-00025Z-Mh for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:34:54 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C699E01DF; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:34:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from aa011msr.fastwebnet.it (aa011msr.fastwebnet.it [85.18.95.71]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278AFE01DF for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:34:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [37.1.3.90] (37.1.3.90) by aa011msr.fastwebnet.it (8.0.013.5) (authenticated as cyclopia) id 48638ABD0057C36E for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:34:52 +0200 Message-ID: <4867590F.2030901@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:42:39 +0200 From: "b.n." User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080507) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's References: <4864059A.7070602@paradise.net.nz> <486408e8.H6jJprFk5Zz6c8f9%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <200806271100.15762.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <4864b227.lYMApV4Tx50fgp98%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <28FC20CF-A74D-4C91-8F0C-9CEA66599471@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> <4864b997.wuGCZVlMdDQKTIxH%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <20080627215052.381fe4ed@ilievnet.com> <486567c2.PzqXKZJYaHOvK7F7%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <20080628044126.3f44efe2@ilievnet.com> <48661a29.5Eb8BUNqea1Furr1%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <4866268E.5030105@gmail.com> <4866a630.tLLeKsLancNqYyd7%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <4866E15A.5060608@gmail.com> <4866EB78.2040105@paradise.net.nz> In-Reply-To: <4866EB78.2040105@paradise.net.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 47bad14c-da5e-4a7d-bca9-0d29f0cbf83b X-Archives-Hash: 2a628ea3e57129dbcf6b56fe87fedf58 Mark Kirkwood ha scritto: > b.n. wrote: >> (The other is your admittedly elusive attitude to release fully >> details on what happened, both on your webpages and this thread -for >> example, we still have *no* link about the supposed attacks you >> received *before* the relicensing, despite repeated requests for that). >> >> m. > I think it is in here: > > http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/linux-dist.html > > specifically (quote): > > > In fact, this happened around y2004. I received a patch that was > intended to add UTF-8 support to mkisofs. > > Unfortunately, the code quality of this patch was lousy. It > tried to incorrectly initialize a structure and it handled only > a few obvious cases. Many important issues with UTF-8 support > have been completely ignored. As a result, I rejected this patch > because I do care about code quality (I still need to be able to > maintain the code in a few years). The people in the Linux > distribution could have fixed the problems and created a useful > solution but they did not do this. > > Now these people have been in trouble and needed an excuse for > their behavior. They created the fairy tale that there is a > license problem in cdrtools. They created a network of > "cooperation" and supported some people which created a fork of > cdrtools based on the fairy tale..... I've read that, but 1)there is no *reference.* No link to a mailing list thread or such (I don't remember if even the infamous Debian bug where the licensing problem started is linked on Joerg pages, but at least it is easy to find it) -so I don't know if it's true or not. Maybe that' me being a scientist, so I am accustomed to expect at least a literature reference if there is a potentially questionable statement in a scientific paper -but I think it would help to actually see what he is talking about. 2)Statements like "now these people have been in trouble and needed an excuse for their behaviour" looks like pure conspiracy theory. Why a patch rejected puts people "in trouble"? Why did they need an "excuse"? There is no logic in that. Such claims require proof. Again, it is entirely possible that Joerg, despite his somehow weird behaviour, could be right. But I fail to see the strong evidence that should backup his strong statements. m. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list