From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KCmAQ-0003e7-RN for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 01:57:27 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C0A75E034D; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 01:57:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp5.clear.net.nz (smtp5.clear.net.nz [203.97.33.68]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D888E034D for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 01:57:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zmori.markir.net (121-73-165-180.dsl.telstraclear.net [121.73.165.180]) by smtp5.clear.net.nz (CLEAR Net Mail) with ESMTP id <0K3700IBCC09D400@smtp5.clear.net.nz> for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:55:22 +1200 (NZST) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:55:04 +1200 From: Mark Kirkwood Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's In-reply-to: <4866E15A.5060608@gmail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Message-id: <4866EB78.2040105@paradise.net.nz> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <4864059A.7070602@paradise.net.nz> <486408e8.H6jJprFk5Zz6c8f9%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <200806271100.15762.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <4864b227.lYMApV4Tx50fgp98%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <28FC20CF-A74D-4C91-8F0C-9CEA66599471@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> <4864b997.wuGCZVlMdDQKTIxH%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <20080627215052.381fe4ed@ilievnet.com> <486567c2.PzqXKZJYaHOvK7F7%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <20080628044126.3f44efe2@ilievnet.com> <48661a29.5Eb8BUNqea1Furr1%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <4866268E.5030105@gmail.com> <4866a630.tLLeKsLancNqYyd7%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <4866E15A.5060608@gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080601) X-Archives-Salt: c7451b6b-0aed-4320-bc83-0d675ef35a95 X-Archives-Hash: 97eba7ce7defa8d180ee55262972d379 b.n. wrote: > Joerg Schilling ha scritto: >> "b.n." wrote: >> >>> Joerg Schilling ha scritto: >>>> Stroller wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Why do you continue to attack me? >>>> >>>> Do you really believe that this helps? >>> Repeat with me, Joerg. >>> "No one is attacking me." >> >> Just because you did not read it to it's end does not meanthat he did >> not >> attack me. He write that "I am pissing him off". > > That's no attack Joerg. That's a statement about himself, not you. > If he said something like "Joerg is a moron" that would be a personal > attack. No one is saying that (at least, not me, nor him). He is > simply stating, instead, that your behaviour makes him feel nervous, > which is something different from attack. > > Please, please, please: stop *always* assuming bad faith from anyone > that is not immediately agreeing with you. We asked this before and we > ask this again, and we will ask it until it happens. Please. That's > the *main* block to be surpassed if we want this to be a reasonable > thread > > (The other is your admittedly elusive attitude to release fully > details on what happened, both on your webpages and this thread -for > example, we still have *no* link about the supposed attacks you > received *before* the relicensing, despite repeated requests for that). > > m. I think it is in here: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/linux-dist.html specifically (quote): In fact, this happened around y2004. I received a patch that was intended to add UTF-8 support to mkisofs. Unfortunately, the code quality of this patch was lousy. It tried to incorrectly initialize a structure and it handled only a few obvious cases. Many important issues with UTF-8 support have been completely ignored. As a result, I rejected this patch because I do care about code quality (I still need to be able to maintain the code in a few years). The people in the Linux distribution could have fixed the problems and created a useful solution but they did not do this. Now these people have been in trouble and needed an excuse for their behavior. They created the fairy tale that there is a license problem in cdrtools. They created a network of "cooperation" and supported some people which created a fork of cdrtools based on the fairy tale..... (end quote) regards Mark -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list