From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1R1hD5-0000r4-No for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 08 Sep 2011 16:12:15 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 45FB621C246; Thu, 8 Sep 2011 16:12:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F1D8C21C0CB for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2011 16:11:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 08 Sep 2011 16:11:11 -0000 Received: from p5B082D1C.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO pc.localnet) [91.8.45.28] by mail.gmx.net (mp014) with SMTP; 08 Sep 2011 18:11:11 +0200 X-Authenticated: #13997268 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+G+sJqyr6Gdj/BC3H3DBXgb1zc4rodVMa3Fkys3/ FeeMXyU2+mVR63 From: Michael Schreckenbauer To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2011 18:11:12 +0200 Message-ID: <4842477.AF29R6J79c@pc> User-Agent: KMail/4.7.0 (Linux/2.6.38-gentoo; KDE/4.7.0; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <20110908165822.442f3097@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> References: <201108191109.34984.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <20110908165822.442f3097@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: c0604ce3c8d617c07182caf1bf26bcb8 Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 16:58:22 schrieb Neil Bothwick: > On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 11:15:40 -0400, Michael Mol wrote: > > Perhaps udev's problem is that it's too complex, as a result of having > > too large a problem scope. > The problem, AIUI, is the udev can run any programs specified in the > rules files, and they may not be available before /usr is mounted. Funny thing is, devfs was removed, because of "unfixable race-conditions" (among other things iirc). What else is this then? An initramfs is not a proper fix for this design flaw, imo. Regards, Michael