From: Eric Martin <freak4uxxx@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Is GWN dead?
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:20:49 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <478D0791.4040502@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200801120113.30788.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
Alan McKinnon wrote:
> to build other distros. It is not suitable for newbies (disregard the
> occasional newbie that does get it right, that's a minority and very
> atypical), and one really does have to have moved beyond the "Oh, look!
> Shiny installer!" mentality to appreciate it. When you get to that
> stage, you appreciate that you need a bootstrap system to build the
> first stages of your own distro, and you can get that bootstrap system
> from any place you feel like getting it from.
>
I came to Gentoo at gentoo 1.2 / gentoo 1.4 (I don't remember the year
but it was around 2002). I was a GNU/Linux newbie who only knew RedHat
and didn't quite understand compiling kernels. Doing the install taught
me GNU/Linux and I'm better for it. I think newbies should try it, but
unfortunately a lot might be turned off because it's 'too much work'.
> Anybody that feels they *need* or *must have* an official Gentoo
> installer is probably the wrong target market and should be referred to
> other distros that will suit their needs better. This is not a troll or
> an elitist statement, it's just recognizing what gentoo is and what it
> isn't - it's not a distro suitable for someone to whom chroot isn't yet
> second nature.
>
I don't think it's an elitist statement, I agree in thinking that we
shouldn't cater to the lcd. There are plenty of distros out there that
work just fine and the greatest thing about FOSS is choice. If all of
the options are the same there's no point. Again though, I have to
disagree with the point that it's not for somebody whom chroot isn't yet
second nature: I learned chroot through the install. I've tried playing
around with Fedora / Ubunttu but I keep going back to Gentoo; it's my
favorite distro.
just my $0.02
eric
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2008-01-11 8:27 [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead? Shaochun Wang
2008-01-11 8:37 ` Daniel Pielmeier
2008-01-11 8:58 ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-11 9:12 ` Shaochun Wang
2008-01-11 9:22 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-14 2:12 ` Iain Buchanan
2008-01-14 22:33 ` Walter Dnes
2008-01-11 9:35 ` Daniel Pielmeier
2008-01-11 10:06 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 10:24 ` [gentoo-user] Install CD (was: Is GWN dead?) Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-11 9:38 ` [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead? Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-11 9:50 ` Dale
2008-01-11 10:07 ` Galevsky
2008-01-11 10:19 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-11 10:38 ` Dale
2008-01-11 13:17 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-11 13:35 ` Dale
2008-01-11 13:46 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-11 14:14 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-11 23:18 ` Dale
2008-01-12 0:16 ` [gentoo-user] HTML vs. Text messages (WAS: Is GWN dead?) Hal Martin
2008-01-12 0:25 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-12 10:16 ` Mick
2008-01-12 11:33 ` Dale
2008-01-12 11:42 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-12 11:59 ` Mick
2008-01-12 13:26 ` Dale
2008-01-12 14:38 ` Mick
2008-01-11 13:48 ` [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead? Neil Bothwick
2008-01-11 14:02 ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2008-01-17 7:34 ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-17 9:09 ` Dale
2008-01-11 10:45 ` [gentoo-user] " Galevsky
2008-01-11 13:40 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-11 13:58 ` Daniel da Veiga
2008-01-17 7:33 ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-17 8:44 ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-18 7:36 ` Thufir
2008-01-11 10:21 ` [gentoo-user] " Norman Rieß
2008-01-11 10:30 ` Daniel Pielmeier
2008-01-11 10:50 ` Galevsky
2008-01-11 11:30 ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-17 7:31 ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-12 19:59 ` James
2008-01-12 20:04 ` Kenneth Prugh
2008-01-12 20:20 ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-12 21:12 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2008-01-17 7:27 ` Thufir
2008-01-17 9:57 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-11 19:09 ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 19:19 ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-12 20:19 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 0:36 ` b.n.
2008-01-13 8:39 ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-13 11:30 ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-13 15:03 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 15:39 ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-11 22:14 ` [gentoo-user] " Hal Martin
2008-01-11 22:35 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-12 0:25 ` Dale
2008-01-11 13:43 ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 10:02 ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 10:29 ` Galevsky
2008-01-11 19:08 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 22:31 ` Galevsky
2008-01-11 22:52 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-11 23:13 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-12 2:29 ` b.n.
2008-01-12 2:27 ` Daniel da Veiga
2008-01-12 11:50 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-15 19:20 ` Eric Martin [this message]
2008-01-15 19:48 ` [gentoo-user] gentoo>=sabayon+genkernel Δημήτριος Ροπόκης
2008-01-15 20:48 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Is GWN dead? Alan McKinnon
2008-01-15 22:12 ` Mark Knecht
2008-01-12 20:07 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 11:41 ` [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install CD : was " Philip Webb
2008-01-11 13:35 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-14 10:41 ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-11 12:15 ` [gentoo-user] " David Relson
2008-01-11 13:25 ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-11 14:09 ` Galevsky
2008-01-11 14:33 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-17 7:19 ` Thufir
2008-01-17 8:10 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-17 9:14 ` Dale
2008-01-18 7:41 ` Thufir
2008-01-17 10:00 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-18 7:43 ` Thufir
2008-01-18 8:25 ` [gentoo-user] q: how to make gentoo site sync for greek users Δημήτριος Ροπόκης
2008-01-18 18:12 ` Mick
2008-01-18 14:04 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead? Alan McKinnon
2008-01-18 18:46 ` Thufir
2008-01-18 19:06 ` Lowe Schmidt
2008-01-20 8:38 ` Thufir
2008-01-11 14:53 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 15:54 ` Daniel da Veiga
2008-01-11 19:03 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 16:34 ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-11 14:38 ` YoYo Siska
2008-01-11 16:36 ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-12 19:18 ` David Relson
2008-01-12 21:16 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-13 8:53 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-13 11:47 ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-13 12:35 ` b.n.
2008-01-13 12:56 ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-13 13:32 ` Dale
2008-01-13 14:15 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 15:00 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 15:35 ` Dale
2008-01-13 16:35 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 19:24 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 19:38 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 20:24 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-14 12:24 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 21:35 ` [gentoo-user] " Galevsky
2008-01-14 0:19 ` b.n.
2008-01-14 10:07 ` Galevsky
2008-01-14 16:54 ` b.n.
2008-01-14 16:53 ` Galevsky
2008-01-17 7:43 ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-13 15:02 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-13 15:41 ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-13 13:58 ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-14 5:16 ` Shaochun Wang
2008-01-14 11:24 ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-11 14:01 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-11 16:45 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-12 20:52 ` James
2008-01-12 21:29 ` Mark Knecht
2008-01-13 8:56 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-13 9:08 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-13 10:14 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-13 20:44 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-13 11:04 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 20:46 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-13 20:55 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 19:28 ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2008-01-13 20:51 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-14 9:48 ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2008-01-14 10:23 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2008-01-14 18:47 ` Benno Schulenberg
2008-01-14 21:46 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-13 9:06 ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 12:06 ` b.n.
2008-01-13 14:17 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 14:53 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 16:29 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 16:46 ` Ken Gypen
2008-01-13 18:03 ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-13 18:22 ` Galevsky
2008-01-13 19:03 ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-13 19:26 ` Galevsky
2008-01-13 19:15 ` Mark Knecht
2008-01-13 19:26 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 20:09 ` Mark Knecht
2008-01-14 0:27 ` b.n.
2008-01-14 7:22 ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-14 9:17 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-14 9:39 ` Cocoy Dayao
2008-01-14 10:17 ` Galevsky
2008-01-14 10:09 ` Galevsky
2008-01-14 10:36 ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-13 19:20 ` [gentoo-user] Re: " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 19:24 ` Neil Bothwick
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