From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JEKOq-0007Vg-N0 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:10:28 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 39EC6E109E; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:10:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fmailhost04.isp.att.net (fmailhost04.isp.att.net [204.127.217.104]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91DC9E0F4A for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:10:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [216.79.243.50] (host-216-79-243-50.jan.bellsouth.net[216.79.243.50]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc04) with ESMTP id <20080114081002H0400a0l2ke>; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:10:02 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [216.79.243.50] Message-ID: <478B18D8.1070907@bellsouth.net> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 02:10:00 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071205 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Daniel Robbins' come back ? References: <1200129071.4788842fc5816@imp.free.fr> <200801131523.23859.nagatoro@gmail.com> <478A2138.2030204@bellsouth.net> <200801131745.32588.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> <478A9318.20300@bellsouth.net> <87zlv8zyli.fsf@newsguy.com> <478B1227.609@bellsouth.net> <30000.194.237.142.6.1200297071.squirrel@www.nyblom.org> In-Reply-To: <30000.194.237.142.6.1200297071.squirrel@www.nyblom.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 4f09f794-bce1-4121-af32-6807e4e06cce X-Archives-Hash: cad5474be7a807efcbc474c29d938bb8 Naga wrote: >> reader@newsguy.com wrote: >> Case in point, portage I have read has a lot of hacks that are hurting >> > development. In the end it works pretty well but it makes it really > hard to add more "features" without messing up something else. So, > someone needs to make a decision on what needs to happen with that. Some > say rewrite portage, some say switch to C** and some say switch to > Plaudus (sp?). This just seems to be one thing I have read about. > > I'm sure Portage (the program) has allot of hacks in it but I'm also sure > that had those who advocate its shortcomings been concerned about > backwards compability with older stable versions they would have been more > humble in there criticism. > Yep, you are likely dead on there. Thing is, now, someone needs to decide what to do next. I wouldn't mind a change that means you can not go backwards. I have said M$ needs to cut that cord myself. It may hurt at first but in the long run it will pay off. > >> Like you, I wish I could do more. I would be willing to learn to code >> > if I felt it was worthwhile. I am disabled so I have plenty of time to > learn and contribute but after my past experiences on -dev, I won't be > repeating that for a VERY long time and only after some things change. > The devs complain about not having enough help but when someone wants to > learn and help some they sort of shoot themselves in the foot. > > The best way to help out is to try and join a team/herd. They are much > friendlier then the -dev list and in much need of help. The easiest way I > think is to join an arch team as an arch tester. > > > > That may be true but the past few times on -dev left a bad taste. If I start learning to code and stuff I would want to move up. Right now, I'm not even remotely interested in that. I'll just stay right here where I am. Of course, if I get the same here, I'd go away from here too. Dale :-) :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list