Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?

[Jil Larner <jil@gnoo.eu>]

Well, it's like if I am opening my eyes. I never looked at what the
foundation was supposed to do. For a couple of years I've been using
gentoo, I never get any political announcement, maybe because I didn't
look at the right place, or maybe there was no. I mean that except the
Gentoo's Philosophy and the Gentoo's Social Contract, I didn't see
politic, for my eyes were probably closed.
It doesn't mean I didn't enjoyed gentoo, its power, its flexibility, its
community. But I certainly missed something. There are so many ways to
communicate (lists, IRC, boards, wikis, project pages, etc.) that I must
admit I'm sometime lost.

Today, I learn we're in trouble. Good. What trouble ? What's happening ?
Why through the words of Daniel Robbins, I feel some fear ? I feel he
foresees a dead end and offers an opportunity to change before it is too
late. Once more, to quote Matrix, "the problem is choice". In Free
Software, there are often choices where the community can get involved
in and it makes our strength. The problem is, and is not, legal papers.
Because, IMO, legal papers are the visible part of an Iceberg. Could
someone tell me what *really* is the crisis ? If people did not do what
they were supposed to do : what should they have done ?

Thanks.

Alan McKinnon a écrit :
> On Saturday 12 January 2008, alain.didierjean@free.fr wrote:
>> Daniel Robbins offers to take back Gentoo leadership.
>> What about it ? Read
>> http://blog.funtoo.org/2008/01/here-my-offer.html
> 
> I've kept very quiet about Gentoo politics for a long time, but Daniel's 
> blog has promoted me to finally open my mouth and express my views.
> 
> Daniel is in a tricky position - he is the legal President of the 
> Foundation but also has no role in the project in real life.
> 
> There is no evidence whatsoever that the Trustees as a group have ever 
> done a single thing for Gentoo in three years. The fundamental 
> responsibility of Trustees is to ensure that legal paperwork is 
> properly filed, they did not even do this. Grant Goodyear is getting 
> some things done but he's doing it as one person. Chris is in a similar 
> position. But the Trustees, as a body with specific duties, simply does 
> not exist in any reasonable definition of Trustees.
> 
> I used to read -dev and various council mailing lists a long time ago as 
> I wanted to keep up to date with these things as a user. I unsubscribed 
> because I couldn't stand the constant bickering going on there. OSS 
> projects always have their laundry out in the public eye and some 
> conflict is always present but Gentoo management manages to take this 
> to a whole new level - from on outsider's point of view, the bickering 
> is done for the sake of bickering, and it does not result in decisions 
> being made or solutions found.
> 
> Ciaran Mcreesh - I am very specifically looking at you here.
> 
> The council - I'm not up to date on that aspect so can't comment.
> 
> When I read about current Gentoo politics I can't help but constantly 
> think of just one word:
> 
> Stampede.
> 
> 
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