From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JDSjb-0003m7-Bv for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:52:19 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 05F98E0128; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:51:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA18E010D for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:51:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id f5so164811nfh.26 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:51:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dJFgS+7u3prWzBkSpzQk2Wym8SQMkma0Gfa2uJPg87Y=; b=SzgUbNpxXWeQbPpDn2d7bFeUiWBClabr4zKZD1xtY+EJ1Z6pifZTiSG5Vi2lfNTjzAw9cZD3whFAbLvD/LM3TueL4CAiby44QgXU5NcpRRSyA9Nabj1PQwHNLfQ7GRaLSyulcL7caQxu6zjQaxqQ9fy24XDUYRXdtukaqbm8xVA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=d/dflfacVOILlSI06dpDGo4ddCb8Mt49GVip/WvzPfVu8cXyGVBflsBkdBW33RVzulFHovsDnZk2x8hDg1654f6g/0iYEHmYugfB5TQ3IdydGyzORP78sAENkseGdwqWoCb/mvg8uT7P20YEHTEUB+lJuS7INp3jWEUWmw9avpo= Received: by 10.66.237.14 with SMTP id k14mr767029ugh.72.1200091913342; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:51:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?80.77.252.126? ( [80.77.252.126]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f13sm2765631gvd.18.2008.01.11.14.51.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:51:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4787F31B.3050209@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:52:11 +0000 From: Qian Qiao User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080111) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Is GWN dead? References: <20080111082729.GA12107@localhost> <6142e6140801110037p7d5167c5y619b318ba1bf652e@mail.gmail.com> <1200041896.10339.13.camel@localhost> <20080111091237.GB12107@localhost> <1343558.gq7T5pozvP@michael-schmarck.my-fqdn.de> <3902701.BmRSot1XaP@michael-schmarck.my-fqdn.de> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: dd2629e3-50b3-4eed-8e75-eba59836c7ff X-Archives-Hash: b875b977ee59f91cafd11cba0052539b -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Galevsky wrote: > Yes it is. Portage is not included Huh? If are talking about installation, then whether the LiveCD carries portage or not is irrelavent, portage is in the stage tarball you fetch over the internet. > you depend on other systems that > don't mind about Gentoo needs and could go on different way, and I > find very strange to have a 2.6.23 stable in Gentoo, but not necessary > on other liveCD at the same time. You don't depend on the LiveCD, it merely boots your computer and gives you fdisk and mount, as soon as you unpack the stage tarball and chroot into it, you are using the binaries from the stage tarball and gentoo's base-layout, and at that point, what the LiveCD is becomes completely irrelavent, so I'm afraid I can't agree with you here. > plus networkless installations... I > think it is very good -for any distro- to have an installCD that > brings a good system to not-connected machines. Just for them. Networkless installations is well documented. Even without gentoo's LiveCD, it can easily be done, some LiveCDs allow you to switch disc, or you can just use portable medias like USB flash. If you Google for it, there are plenty of guides and tutorials, so I won't go into details. > I mean dealing with Gentoo components versions sounds sensible.... > watching GRML/Knoppix/whatever website for a Gentoo install...surely > less. As I said in the thread earlier, do not bind your mind to the idea that "you need gentoo to install gentoo", the fact is, you don't. The installation steps from knoppixCD/GRML is almost identical to those from a Gentoo CD, with only one exception: they don't come with /mnt/gentoo, so you'll have to mkdir /mnt/gentoo, but if that makes it less sensible as you claimed, I'm afraid I can't agree. - -- Joe - -- A computer scientist is someone who, when told "go to hell", considers the "go to" harmful rather than the destination. GnuPG FP: DE08 57AE A1AD 620C 02AA CCDD 611B 63AC B146 61D9 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHh/MbYRtjrLFGYdkRAke5AKCyoN34Yv3WyupfkcdavNiFxx495wCfcR1y ghjiHu1RP65yHB/DQLIX0Hw= =LHBM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list