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( [80.77.252.126]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q9sm2773112gve.10.2008.01.11.14.35.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:35:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4787EF3D.9020505@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:35:41 +0000 From: Qian Qiao User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080111) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead? References: <200801111038.08071.dirk.heinrichs.ext@nsn.com> <4787432B.1050902@smash-net.org> <1305130.335MG8fpnU@michael-schmarck.my-fqdn.de> <4787EA2A.5030500@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4787EA2A.5030500@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 3d499f23-7bb9-4f49-9291-b25fa6d7040f X-Archives-Hash: 3fba70c38e96c042910c0793245a5f97 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hal Martin wrote: > I installed Gentoo from inside Ubuntu 6.10 (my previous system) through > chroot. This was because I couldn't use a LiveCD as I have an AMD64 > based system. > > Knoppix and many other LiveCDs are 32bit, as that is currently what a > majority of computers out there are. So, unless you can point me to a > 64bit LiveCD that isn't some alternate version of a binary distribution > I believe we still need a Gentoo install CD. There are in fact quite of few of 64bit LiveCDs. Knoppix64 being one of them. A simple Google gives me this: http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php where you can even filter LiveCDs. > > Some people's arguments are that we should rely on other LiveCDs to > build a Gentoo system as this will give the devs more time to work on > things that they feel are more important. I would agree with them > normally, but I'd rather download one CD that contains all the stuff I > need than download a Debian/Ubuntu/Fedora/Mandriva LiveCD (all of those > distributions provide a 64bit LiveCD) and the stage tarball. Even with a LiveCD with a stage tarball on it, you will still need to download additional stuff during the installation, you will still need to sync the portage tree if you want your system to be up-to-date. It's almost the same as to downloading a LiveCD and downloading the tarball separately, so I honestly don't think you can save much work by having a stage tarball on a LiveCD. > > Sure, if you're on a 32bit system, any LiveCD will work well for > building a Gentoo system. However, if you happen to be one of the > growing number of people who have purchased a 64bit system (such as an > AMD Athlon, Opteron, or an Intel Pentium D (some models), Pentium Dual > core (E21xx series), Core 2 Duo/Quad, or a Xeon system) and want to run > Gentoo 64bit, your install options are suddenly very limited. I myself have 3 machines, a Athlon64X2, a Core2 Duo and a Pentium III, I've used Gentoo minimal, Knoppix and Knoppix64 CDs during my installation on these 3 machines and I haven't encounter any problem using any of them, and that's why I said earlier in the thread that LiveCDs really doesn't matter, as long as you can boot, fdisk, mount, chroot, emerge, you are fine :) I hope I've provided you with some useful information. - -- Joe - -- A computer scientist is someone who, when told "go to hell", considers the "go to" harmful rather than the destination. GnuPG FP: DE08 57AE A1AD 620C 02AA CCDD 611B 63AC B146 61D9 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHh+89YRtjrLFGYdkRAqubAKC+5mfW9+EYTyd8eKSo5H/G4DVbZQCg3aF9 0aYjVKGwCEKwQJ+hRzO8Ao0= =Hjvf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list