Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead?

[Qian Qiao <qian.qiao@gmail.com>]

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Hal Martin wrote:
> I installed Gentoo from inside Ubuntu 6.10 (my previous system) through
> chroot. This was because I couldn't use a LiveCD as I have an AMD64
> based system.
> 
> Knoppix and many other LiveCDs are 32bit, as that is currently what a
> majority of computers out there are. So, unless you can point me to a
> 64bit LiveCD that isn't some alternate version of a binary distribution
> I believe we still need a Gentoo install CD.

There are in fact quite of few of 64bit LiveCDs. Knoppix64 being one of
them.

A simple Google gives me this:
http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php where you can even filter
LiveCDs.

> 
> Some people's arguments are that we should rely on other LiveCDs to
> build a Gentoo system as this will give the devs more time to work on
> things that they feel are more important. I would agree with them
> normally, but I'd rather download one CD that contains all the stuff I
> need than download a Debian/Ubuntu/Fedora/Mandriva LiveCD (all of those
> distributions provide a 64bit LiveCD) and the stage tarball.

Even with a LiveCD with a stage tarball on it, you will still need to
download additional stuff during the installation, you will still need
to sync the portage tree if you want your system to be up-to-date.

It's almost the same as to downloading a LiveCD and downloading the
tarball separately, so I honestly don't think you can save much work by
having a stage tarball on a LiveCD.

> 
> Sure, if you're on a 32bit system, any LiveCD will work well for
> building a Gentoo system. However, if you happen to be one of the
> growing number of people who have purchased a 64bit system (such as an
> AMD Athlon, Opteron, or an Intel Pentium D (some models), Pentium Dual
> core (E21xx series), Core 2 Duo/Quad, or a Xeon system) and want to run
> Gentoo 64bit, your install options are suddenly very limited.

I myself have 3 machines, a Athlon64X2, a Core2 Duo and a Pentium III,
I've used Gentoo minimal, Knoppix and Knoppix64 CDs during my
installation on these 3 machines and I haven't encounter any problem
using any of them, and that's why I said earlier in the thread that
LiveCDs really doesn't matter, as long as you can boot, fdisk, mount,
chroot, emerge, you are fine :)

I hope I've provided you with some useful information.

- -- Joe


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