I agree.· Norman Rieß <norman@smash-net.org>:Right, basicly telling people "You have to depend on / use other distros to install our OS, cause we are not able to / don´t have time to provide this" sounds a little fishy. It makes Gentoo look incomplete.Well, but providing outdated (ie. non-usable for new systems) install medium is also very bad. And if the installer doesn't work (satisfactory), then that gives an even worse impression. Michael Schmarck