From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JDJrZ-0002RF-01 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:23:57 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CEC18E0654; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:22:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fmailhost06.isp.att.net (fmailhost06.isp.att.net [204.127.217.106]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30EA2E0651 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:22:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.150] (adsl-065-005-209-106.sip.msy.bellsouth.net[65.5.209.106]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc06) with ESMTP id <20080111132216H0600ctb06e>; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:22:16 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.5.209.106] Message-ID: <47876E63.3010009@bellsouth.net> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:25:55 -0600 From: Eddie Mihalow Jr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071219) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead? References: <20080111082729.GA12107@localhost> <6142e6140801110037p7d5167c5y619b318ba1bf652e@mail.gmail.com> <1200041896.10339.13.camel@localhost> <20080111091237.GB12107@localhost> <1343558.gq7T5pozvP@michael-schmarck.my-fqdn.de> <20080111071549.4677caa8@osage.osagesoftware.com> In-Reply-To: <20080111071549.4677caa8@osage.osagesoftware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 24facfee-b9a5-4bbb-8527-2067d3356d11 X-Archives-Hash: 173c536b85823fd62ba45bc4bc9a01da David Relson wrote: > On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:02:08 +0100 > Michael Schmarck wrote: > >> Shaochun Wang wrote: >> >>> Maybe you joke will become the truth. Currently, Gentoo has not >>> updated its installation CD for a long time! >> Well, actually, I never used a Gentoo install CD to install Gentoo. I >> also don't quite understand, why anyone would need such a beast. To >> install Gentoo, I'd boot my favorite "rescue system" (GRMl nowadays, >> Knoppix back then, but IMO Knoppix is too "fat" for *this* *task*) >> and install from there. No need for an install CD. >> >> As far as I'm concerned, the Gentoo install CD could easily be dropped >> without a loss. >> >> Michael > > I used the Gentoo LiveCD when I started with Gentoo in 2006. Prior > Linux experience covered 8 or so years with Slackware, RedHat, and > Mandrake. > > The installation was not smooth. My recollection is that the GUI > installer asked for the same information multiple times and there were > problems installing packages from the CD's. I ended up with a partial > install that needed manual fixing. The process was painful, not > smooth, but I was able to get Gentoo up and running. > > When I upgraded from 32-bits to 64-bits, I started with the minimal CD a binary distr > and did a manual upgrade. The process worked well though it was time > consuming (since I used my old world file to ensure I had 64 bit > versions of everything). > > By contrast, I've done multiple Mandrake/Mandriva installs, most > recently about 6 months ago (on an old laptop). The Mandriva install > was dead simple and it was up and running within an hour. > > IMHO, for new users to Gentoo having an easy to use installer and a > current LiveCD (no more than 6 months old) is very important. > > Regards, > > David You are missing the point of Gentoo then. We are NOT a binary distro (to repeat ad nauseum). If you want that kind of install, please change distros. I do find these other methods of install to be interesting though. Has anyone on this list ever used a PXE boot image to install? -- Edward A Mihalow Jr Mudbug Computers and Networks Gentoo! Linux Registered Linux User#225662 New Orleans,LA -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list