From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JCm2e-00071C-MD for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 01:17:09 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B647E0638; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 01:16:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fmailhost04.isp.att.net (fmailhost04.isp.att.net [204.127.217.104]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A236CE0612 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 01:16:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [216.79.242.190] (host-216-79-242-190.jan.bellsouth.net[216.79.242.190]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc04) with ESMTP id <20080110011620H0400ac3hue>; Thu, 10 Jan 2008 01:16:20 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [216.79.242.190] Message-ID: <478571E3.2060508@bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:16:19 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071205 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] What's with this hald thing and why can't I rip CDs any more? References: <5bdc1c8b0801081637q5696599pab1c4f2b086a5a6f@mail.gmail.com> <9fde06020801081954x3a8600b1ua122608ddbfe2fe4@mail.gmail.com> <9fde06020801081956x40f5e84chf38b4576b8be4cdd@mail.gmail.com> <47844C7C.4060003@bellsouth.net> <5bdc1c8b0801091041w49e2143co934c122db52e6c45@mail.gmail.com> <20080109184941.19896a6f@loonquawl.digimed.co.uk> <5bdc1c8b0801091203h4f61ada7k798c6d5ff6d4f448@mail.gmail.com> <9fde06020801091408v60a29927t2c289ef783b12304@mail.gmail.com> <9fde06020801091434o46bc9bc9yde50cbbb755b3c97@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9fde06020801091434o46bc9bc9yde50cbbb755b3c97@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020705060905010907000805" X-Archives-Salt: a96630ab-5c72-44b5-b0cf-3546e3a7694c X-Archives-Hash: c7b1a2e4d9524b2a7730669f6a001567 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020705060905010907000805 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Naiani Rosa de Barros wrote: > On Jan 9, 2008 7:08 PM, Naiani Rosa de Barros wrote: > >> On Jan 9, 2008 5:03 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >>> On Jan 9, 2008 10:49 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 10:41:16 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Things here are still basically a disaster. I rebooted. No change. >>>>> sound-juicer still only rips the 1st six tracks and then skips the >>>>> last seven. Pretty much the same on every CD I've tried so far. No >>>>> messages in dmesg. >>>>> >>>> Have you tried a different ripper? This could be a problem with >>>> sound-juicer, not hal/dbus. >>>> >>>> >>> I emerged grip but it's not seeing the CD at all. I tried Aqualung but >>> it didn't work either. >>> >>> Seeing Dale's note I tried K3b, which I should have thought of before. >>> It worked for the CD that was already in the drive so that was a step >>> forward. When I inserted a new CD it got blocked by Gnome starting >>> Totem automatically. When I closed Totem my hand then K3b was able to >>> rip the second CD. I haven't listened to anything yet but at least the >>> files look about right. >>> >>> So, with all of that I am guessing that Totem was somehow blocking >>> sound-juicer. Totem starting automatically when I insert a CD has >>> never happened before. Is that because I turned on hald? If so do I >>> really need hald or can I turn it off? Or maybe I need ivman to help >>> hald do it's work better? >>> >> Probably. HAL + ivman does that. Configure automounting/recognizing devices. >> > > Now that I'm thinking, actually, I don't think HAL by itself would do > that. Maybe you already have all the stuff set up. But check out the > Gentoo Wiki page I said before. > > >>> Of course if there is some Gentoo page on how to run all this stuff >>> correctly that it where I should really start. >>> >> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ivman >> >> >>> thanks, >>> >>> Mark >>> -- >>> gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list >>> >>> >>> >> No problem. =) >> >> Naiani >> >> Well, I picked up on something. Hal or ivman, both installed here, locks access to my camera when I first turn it on. Gtkam can not access the camera until it releases a lock on it. You know when in KDE and you hook up something, it pops up the little thing asking what to do with it. I hit cancel on that and wait a minute or two and then gtkam can access the camera as it should. So, it may be that SOMETHING, who knows what, is locking the drive and not releasing it like it should. Keep in mind that I have KDE and not gnome here. You may want to check how Gnome handles this sort of thing. It may be some setting somewhere that is messing you up and be gnome specific. If you want to stop services, /etc/init.d/hald stop should work. If you want to see what all is running then rc-status should help with that. I have dbus, hald and ivman running on mine here. I hope that helps some cause I'm running out of ideas here. Dale :-) :-) :-) --------------020705060905010907000805 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Naiani Rosa de Barros wrote: 
On Jan 9, 2008 7:08 PM, Naiani Rosa de Barros <naiani.princess@gmail.com> wrote:
  
On Jan 9, 2008 5:03 PM, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:
    
On Jan 9, 2008 10:49 AM, Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
      
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 10:41:16 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:

        
  Things here are still basically a disaster. I rebooted. No change.
sound-juicer still only rips the 1st six tracks and then skips the
last seven. Pretty much the same on every CD I've tried so far. No
messages in dmesg.
          
Have you tried a different ripper? This could be a problem with
sound-juicer, not hal/dbus.

        
I emerged grip but it's not seeing the CD at all. I tried Aqualung but
it didn't work either.

Seeing Dale's note I tried K3b, which I should have thought of before.
It worked for the CD that was already in the drive so that was a step
forward. When I inserted a new CD it got blocked by Gnome starting
Totem automatically. When I closed Totem my hand then K3b was able to
rip the second CD. I haven't listened to anything yet but at least the
files look about right.

So, with all of that I am guessing that Totem was somehow blocking
sound-juicer. Totem starting automatically when I insert a CD has
never happened before. Is that because I turned on hald? If so do I
really need hald or can I turn it off? Or maybe I need ivman to help
hald do it's work better?
      
Probably. HAL + ivman does that. Configure automounting/recognizing devices.
    

Now that I'm thinking, actually, I don't think HAL by itself would do
that. Maybe you already have all the stuff set up. But check out the
Gentoo Wiki page I said before.

  
Of course if there is some Gentoo page on how to run all this stuff
correctly that it where I should really start.
      
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ivman

    
thanks,

Mark
--
gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list


      
No problem. =)

Naiani

Well, I picked up on something.  Hal or ivman, both installed here, locks access to my camera when I first turn it on.  Gtkam can not access the camera until it releases a lock on it.  You know when in KDE and you hook up something, it pops up the little thing asking what to do with it.  I hit cancel on that and wait a minute or two and then gtkam can access the camera as it should.

So, it may be that SOMETHING, who knows what, is locking the drive and not releasing it like it should.  Keep in mind that I have KDE and not gnome here.  You may want to check how Gnome handles this sort of thing.  It may be some setting somewhere that is messing you up and be gnome specific.

If you want to stop services, /etc/init.d/hald stop should work.  If you want to see what all is running then rc-status should help with that.  I have dbus, hald and ivman running on mine here.

I hope that helps some cause I'm running out of ideas here.

Dale

:-)  :-)  :-) 
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