[gentoo-user] usenet and web mail

[gentoo-user] usenet and web mail

[JimD]

Does anyone know of a good web based usenet reader?

I would like to read my groups from work, however port 119 is blocked.  I can tunnel
from work to home, though I would prefer a web based app.  I can check my home email
from work thanks to SquirrelMail and would like to do the same with usenet.

I am not sure if I should try a news2mail type setup or not.

One more question.  Does anyone have a recommendation for a web-based email client?  I
am happy with SquirrelMail, though the interface is a little old and featureless.  I
would like something more modern.  The only real requirment is IMAP support.

Thanks,

Jim
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[gentoo-user] Re: usenet and web mail

[Anno v. Hiemburg]

JimD wrote:

> Does anyone know of a good web based usenet reader?

http://groups.google.com

Anno.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: usenet and web mail

[JimD]

I didn't like it that much.  I didn't see an option to thread the responses and I would
really like some type of simple killfile to be able to not show the trolls.

The best I have found so far is Newega.  However Newega is a closed source perl based
app and is missing some features I would like.  I would really like the app to be open
source so I can tweak it to fit my needs.  I want kill file support.  The only reason I
am not happy with thunderbird is because is stinks for killfile support for usenet.

Thanks,

Jim
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On Wed, April 5, 2006 1:32 pm, Anno v. Hiemburg wrote:
> JimD wrote:
>
>
>> Does anyone know of a good web based usenet reader?
>
> http://groups.google.com
>
>
> Anno.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: usenet and web mail

[Alexander Skwar]

Anno v. Hiemburg wrote:
> JimD wrote:
> 
>> Does anyone know of a good web based usenet reader?
> 
> http://groups.google.com

He was talking about a good one... No, I don't know of
any.

Reg. Google Groups, it should be noted that a lot of people
killfile everything that's sent from Google Groups, as a lot
of spam originates from there and also because Google Groups
users quite often don't know how to behave in newsgroups.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: usenet and web mail

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

On Wednesday 05 April 2006 20:33, JimD wrote:
> I didn't like it that much.  I didn't see an option to thread the
> responses and I would really like some type of simple killfile to be
> able to not show the trolls.
>
> The best I have found so far is Newega.  However Newega is a closed
> source perl based app and is missing some features I would like.  I
> would really like the app to be open source so I can tweak it to fit
> my needs.  I want kill file support.  The only reason I am not happy
> with thunderbird is because is stinks for killfile support for usenet.
>

Don't know if it does what you want, but I remember using newsportal
(http://florian-amrhein.de/newsportal) sometimes in the past. It even 
integrates nicely with squirrelmail.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: usenet and web mail

[JimD]

On Wed, April 5, 2006 3:00 pm, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 April 2006 20:33, JimD wrote:
>
> Don't know if it does what you want, but I remember using newsportal
> (http://florian-amrhein.de/newsportal) sometimes in the past. It even
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That looks pretty nice.  I will try it out :)

Jim
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: usenet and web mail

[JimD]

On Wed, April 5, 2006 2:45 pm, Alexander Skwar wrote:
> Anno v. Hiemburg wrote:
>
>> JimD wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Does anyone know of a good web based usenet reader?
>>>
>>
>> http://groups.google.com
>>
>
> He was talking about a good one... No, I don't know of
> any.
>
> Reg. Google Groups, it should be noted that a lot of people
> killfile everything that's sent from Google Groups, as a lot of spam originates from
> there and also because Google Groups users quite often don't know how to behave in
> newsgroups.
>
> Alexander Skwar

I will try the one the Etaoin posted.  If that doesn't do it, I can VNC in to
home from work or I could try to see how fast X11 forwarding would be.

Thanks,

Jim
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: usenet and web mail

[Bo Andresen]

On Thursday 06 April 2006 01:06, JimD wrote:
> If that doesn't do it, I can VNC in 
> to home from work or I could try to see how fast X11 forwarding would be.

And what would you use then which you cannot run locally? I mean if the only 
issue is that port 119 is closed then it seems you can do what I do. Create a 
ton of ssh tunnels and point the news/mail/whatever client towards localhost 
(and whatever port you forwarded it to). I currently have 8 ssh tunnels 
running to access external mail, news and irc servers locally. I even created 
an init script for this... ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: usenet and web mail

[JimD]

On Wed, April 5, 2006 7:42 pm, Bo Andresen wrote:
> On Thursday 06 April 2006 01:06, JimD wrote:
>
>> If that doesn't do it, I can VNC in
>> to home from work or I could try to see how fast X11 forwarding would be.
>
> And what would you use then which you cannot run locally? I mean if the only
> issue is that port 119 is closed then it seems you can do what I do. Create a ton
> of ssh tunnels and point the news/mail/whatever client towards localhost (and
> whatever port you forwarded it to). I currently have 8 ssh tunnels running to
> access external mail, news and irc servers locally. I even created an init script
> for this... ;)
>
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>From work I seem to only be able to get to thes ports:

80
443
21
8080

I use 80 for a web server, 443 is what I connect to ssh over, 21 I have been doing VNC.

I could never figure out how to get ssh tunneling working.  So I just have my firewall
forward port 443-> 22, 21->5900, 8080->119...

The with just forwarding the ports is that I don't get any compression.

For example, what would be the ssh command to connect from WORK to HOME and tunnel port
5900 from HOME to WORK so that I can run vnc at WORK to localhost::5555 and really be
connecting to HOME.  ssh is listening on port 443 on HOME.

Thanks,

Jim
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: usenet and web mail

[Bo Andresen]

On Thursday 06 April 2006 02:27, JimD wrote:
> From work I seem to only be able to get to thes ports:
[SNIP]
> 443 is what I connect to ssh over
[SNIP]
> I could never figure out how to get ssh tunneling working.  So I just have
> my firewall forward port 443-> 22, 21->5900, 8080->119...
>
> The with just forwarding the ports is that I don't get any compression.
>
> For example, what would be the ssh command to connect from WORK to HOME and
> tunnel port 5900 from HOME to WORK so that I can run vnc at WORK to
> localhost::5555 and really be connecting to HOME.  ssh is listening on port
> 443 on HOME.

If you can connect to home with a command similar to:

# ssh -p 443 user@home.tld

And you wish to connect to newsserver.com at port 119 (news) and 
mailserver.com at port 143 (imap) which can be reached from home then you can 
create tunnels to those by:

# ssh -p 443 user@home -L 119:newsserver.com:119 -L 143:mailserver.com:143

After that you just direct your mail and news clients towards localhost as the 
servername. One way of doing that is to add:

127.0.0.1	newsserver.com		mailserver.com

to your /etc/hosts. You can add as many tunnels as you want to the same ssh 
connection by just specifying more "-L localport:servername_or_ip:port" to 
the ssh command.

Read man ssh for more info on ssh local port forwarding.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: usenet and web mail

[JimD]

On Wed, April 5, 2006 8:50 pm, Bo Andresen wrote:
> On Thursday 06 April 2006 02:27, JimD wrote:
>
> If you can connect to home with a command similar to:
>
>
> # ssh -p 443 user@home.tld

Yup, the above works fine from work.

> And you wish to connect to newsserver.com at port 119 (news) and
> mailserver.com at port 143 (imap) which can be reached from home then you can
> create tunnels to those by:
>
> # ssh -p 443 user@home -L 119:newsserver.com:119 -L 143:mailserver.com:143

Will ssh tunnel everything over the one connection?

newsserver.com and mailserver.com are both really localhost to my HOME machine since I
am running those services.

So I take it the command below will connect from WORK to HOME and let me get to HOME's
ports 119 and 143 from WORK's port 119 and 143?

ssh -p 443 user@home -L 119:localhost:119 -L 143:localhost:143

> After that you just direct your mail and news clients towards localhost as the
> servername. One way of doing that is to add:

I always understood this part.  I just couldn't get the -L stuff down.

> Read man ssh for more info on ssh local port forwarding.

Will do.

> Bo Andresen

Thanks,

Jim
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: usenet and web mail

[JimD]

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Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: usenet and web mail


> Will ssh tunnel everything over the one connection?

ssh is really great.  I ran
ssh -C -p 443 jim@me.dyndns.org -L 5900:localhost:5900 \
  -L 143:localhost:143 -L 25:localhost:25 \
  -L 119:news-server.cfl.rr.com:119

I now can get compressed VNC, IMAP, SMTP and NNTP from work.

Thanks for the help.

Sorry for posting with OE.  I am VPNed into work to test everything out.

Jim
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