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* [gentoo-user] OT: Mplayer question
@ 2007-09-27 19:14 Anthony E. Caudel
  2007-09-27 19:34 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
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From: Anthony E. Caudel @ 2007-09-27 19:14 UTC (permalink / raw
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Thinking about ordering a DVD from Amazon.uk (not available here in the
US).  It is a region 2 DVD and is in PAL format unlike the NTSC here in
the states.

Will the DVD play in Mplayer?

Tony

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* [gentoo-user]  Re: OT: Mplayer question
  2007-09-27 19:14 [gentoo-user] OT: Mplayer question Anthony E. Caudel
@ 2007-09-27 19:34 ` Grant Edwards
  2007-09-27 19:59   ` forgottenwizard
  2007-09-27 23:29 ` [gentoo-user] " Alan McKinnon
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From: Grant Edwards @ 2007-09-27 19:34 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On 2007-09-27, Anthony E. Caudel <tony.caudel@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Thinking about ordering a DVD from Amazon.uk (not available here in the
> US).  It is a region 2 DVD and is in PAL format unlike the NTSC here in
> the states.
>
> Will the DVD play in Mplayer?

Dunno, but I expect so.  

I've played other-regioned PAL dvds in xine, so I see no reason
why mplayer won't work as well.

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Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow! Now, let's SEND OUT
                                  at               for QUICHE!!
                               visi.com            

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* Re: [gentoo-user]  Re: OT: Mplayer question
  2007-09-27 19:34 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
@ 2007-09-27 19:59   ` forgottenwizard
  2007-09-28  2:50     ` Anthony E. Caudel
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: forgottenwizard @ 2007-09-27 19:59 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On 19:34 Thu 27 Sep     , Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2007-09-27, Anthony E. Caudel <tony.caudel@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > Thinking about ordering a DVD from Amazon.uk (not available here in the
> > US).  It is a region 2 DVD and is in PAL format unlike the NTSC here in
> > the states.
> >
> > Will the DVD play in Mplayer?
> 
> Dunno, but I expect so.  
> 
> I've played other-regioned PAL dvds in xine, so I see no reason
> why mplayer won't work as well.
> 
> -- 
> Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow! Now, let's SEND OUT
>                                   at               for QUICHE!!
>                                visi.com            
> 
> -- 
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> 
> 

I would check mplayer's website for this kind of info. It should, but
that would give you a better idea.

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* Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Mplayer question
  2007-09-27 19:14 [gentoo-user] OT: Mplayer question Anthony E. Caudel
  2007-09-27 19:34 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
@ 2007-09-27 23:29 ` Alan McKinnon
  2007-09-28  5:40 ` Peter Gantner (nephros)
  2007-10-02  2:29 ` Jed R. Mallen
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Alan McKinnon @ 2007-09-27 23:29 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Thursday 27 September 2007, Anthony E. Caudel wrote:
> Thinking about ordering a DVD from Amazon.uk (not available here in
> the US).  It is a region 2 DVD and is in PAL format unlike the NTSC
> here in the states.
>
> Will the DVD play in Mplayer?

It's really got nothing to do with mplayer, the zoning has everything to 
do with the drive itself. If it's multi-zone, the dvd will play. If 
not, well then most drives let you change the zone 5 times or some such 
thing.

PAL vs NTSC vs SECAM et al is purely a tv broadcast thing and video 
software is utterly unaffected by these standards (we don't use tvs as 
display devices). None of the things that limit what a TV can do are 
applicable to software driving a monitor. I have played PAL and 
NeverTheSameColour video seamlessly on mplayer.

<subtly dig at stupid US standards>
What may well happen is that by viewing PAL in it's native resolution 
you might be surprised by the increased quality and this might 
adversely affect your viewing pleasure of future US tv broadcasts
</subtle dig at stupid US standards>

alan

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* Re: [gentoo-user]  Re: OT: Mplayer question
  2007-09-27 19:59   ` forgottenwizard
@ 2007-09-28  2:50     ` Anthony E. Caudel
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Anthony E. Caudel @ 2007-09-28  2:50 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

forgottenwizard wrote:
> On 19:34 Thu 27 Sep     , Grant Edwards wrote:
>   
>> On 2007-09-27, Anthony E. Caudel <tony.caudel@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>     
>>> Thinking about ordering a DVD from Amazon.uk (not available here in the
>>> US).  It is a region 2 DVD and is in PAL format unlike the NTSC here in
>>> the states.
>>>
>>> Will the DVD play in Mplayer?
>>>       
>> Dunno, but I expect so.  
>>
>> I've played other-regioned PAL dvds in xine, so I see no reason
>> why mplayer won't work as well.
>>
>> -- 
>> Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow! Now, let's SEND OUT
>>                                   at               for QUICHE!!
>>                                visi.com            
>>
>> -- 
>> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
>>
>>
>>     
>
> I would check mplayer's website for this kind of info. It should, but
> that would give you a better idea.
>
>   
Checked the website and it seems to be totally DVD player dependent,
something mplayer can't control.  It did point to a program to change
the region code however.

Bummer, I had hoped mplayer had found a way around that problem.

Tony

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* Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Mplayer question
  2007-09-27 19:14 [gentoo-user] OT: Mplayer question Anthony E. Caudel
  2007-09-27 19:34 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
  2007-09-27 23:29 ` [gentoo-user] " Alan McKinnon
@ 2007-09-28  5:40 ` Peter Gantner (nephros)
  2007-10-05 20:45   ` Nick
  2007-10-02  2:29 ` Jed R. Mallen
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From: Peter Gantner (nephros) @ 2007-09-28  5:40 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: Gentoo Mailing List

Thu, 27 Sep 2007 quidam 'Anthony E. Caudel' inquit ita:

> Thinking about ordering a DVD from Amazon.uk (not available here in the
> US).  It is a region 2 DVD and is in PAL format unlike the NTSC here in
> the states.
>
> Will the DVD play in Mplayer?
It not so much mplayers problem as it is wether your DVD drive can be 
set to region 2 or 0 (regionfree).

There is a  tool called "regionset" which will let you reprogram the 
drive, but most drives only let you do that a limited number or times 
(ususally 3-5).

An alternative would be to get hold of a regionless firmware somewhere 
on the internet and flash the drive with that, but this is most likely 
illegal in your country under the DMCA.

HTH,
   Peter
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* Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Mplayer question
  2007-09-27 19:14 [gentoo-user] OT: Mplayer question Anthony E. Caudel
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2007-09-28  5:40 ` Peter Gantner (nephros)
@ 2007-10-02  2:29 ` Jed R. Mallen
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Jed R. Mallen @ 2007-10-02  2:29 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:14:58 -0500
"Anthony E. Caudel" <tony.caudel@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Thinking about ordering a DVD from Amazon.uk (not available here in the
> US).  It is a region 2 DVD and is in PAL format unlike the NTSC here in
> the states.
> 
> Will the DVD play in Mplayer?
> 
> Tony

try emerging media-libs/libdvdcss if it doesn't.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Mplayer question
  2007-09-28  5:40 ` Peter Gantner (nephros)
@ 2007-10-05 20:45   ` Nick
  2007-10-06  1:02     ` Anthony E. Caudel
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Nick @ 2007-10-05 20:45 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 07:40:34AM +0200, Peter Gantner (nephros) wrote:
> Thu, 27 Sep 2007 quidam 'Anthony E. Caudel' inquit ita:
>
>> Thinking about ordering a DVD from Amazon.uk (not available here in the
>> US).  It is a region 2 DVD and is in PAL format unlike the NTSC here in
>> the states.
>>
>> Will the DVD play in Mplayer?
>
> An alternative would be to get hold of a regionless firmware somewhere on 
> the internet and flash the drive with that, but this is most likely illegal 
> in your country under the DMCA.

rpc1.org would be a good bet for the firmware route, which I'd
recommend (AFAIK breaking css is illegal under the dmca anyway, so
I can't see this as being a much bigger legal issue than playing any
encrypted DVD under Linux). IANAL, of course. If in doubt, move to
Finland.

-Nick

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* Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Mplayer question
  2007-10-05 20:45   ` Nick
@ 2007-10-06  1:02     ` Anthony E. Caudel
  2007-10-06 11:42       ` Nick
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Anthony E. Caudel @ 2007-10-06  1:02 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Nick wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 07:40:34AM +0200, Peter Gantner (nephros) wrote:
>   
>> Thu, 27 Sep 2007 quidam 'Anthony E. Caudel' inquit ita:
>>
>>     
>>> Thinking about ordering a DVD from Amazon.uk (not available here in the
>>> US).  It is a region 2 DVD and is in PAL format unlike the NTSC here in
>>> the states.
>>>
>>> Will the DVD play in Mplayer?
>>>       
>> An alternative would be to get hold of a regionless firmware somewhere on 
>> the internet and flash the drive with that, but this is most likely illegal 
>> in your country under the DMCA.
>>     
>
> rpc1.org would be a good bet for the firmware route, which I'd
> recommend (AFAIK breaking css is illegal under the dmca anyway, so
> I can't see this as being a much bigger legal issue than playing any
> encrypted DVD under Linux). IANAL, of course. If in doubt, move to
> Finland.
>
> -Nick
>
>   
Can't find rpcl.org

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* Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Mplayer question
  2007-10-06  1:02     ` Anthony E. Caudel
@ 2007-10-06 11:42       ` Nick
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From: Nick @ 2007-10-06 11:42 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 08:02:29PM -0500, Anthony E. Caudel wrote:
> >> An alternative would be to get hold of a regionless firmware somewhere on 
> >> the internet and flash the drive with that, but this is most likely illegal 
> >> in your country under the DMCA.
> >>     
> >
> > rpc1.org would be a good bet for the firmware route, which I'd
> > recommend (AFAIK breaking css is illegal under the dmca anyway, so
> > I can't see this as being a much bigger legal issue than playing any
> > encrypted DVD under Linux). IANAL, of course. If in doubt, move to
> > Finland.
> >
> > -Nick
> >
> >   
> Can't find rpcl.org
> 
The last character is a one, not a l.

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