From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Iab5c-000828-0h for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:54:24 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.1/8.14.0) with SMTP id l8QHidaa027075; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:44:39 GMT Received: from aa011msr.fastwebnet.it (aa011msr.fastwebnet.it [85.18.95.71]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.1/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l8QHeL8W022376 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:40:21 GMT Received: from [37.1.3.90] (37.1.3.90) by aa011msr.fastwebnet.it (7.3.118.6) (authenticated as cyclopia) id 46A4976D0344C52F; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:40:17 +0200 Message-ID: <46FA9C62.3090600@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:52:34 +0200 From: "b.n." User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070807) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joerg Schilling CC: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: star References: <46f98ceb.FK1zsMF7EsB2Kd3W%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> In-Reply-To: <46f98ceb.FK1zsMF7EsB2Kd3W%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: e0e54f4b-f446-4dbe-bc44-51edae9ba17c X-Archives-Hash: 62d796a097fe8e220585c8296ee04c5c Hi Joerg, Quite an honour to receive a mail from you. :) > The reason why Debian started this is the missing will for quality oriented > cooperation by a single person: "Eduard Bloch". > > The reason why other Linux distributions followed Debian is that they believed > the lies spread by Eduard Bloch. > > I see a good cooperation with 99.99% of the Linux commuinity but there are some > Trolls who attack me. It seems that once you do a lot of work, some people > become jealous and start to attack you. Doing popular things seems to imply > that you become the target of attacks. I didn't follow the whole licence issue, nor I don't care that much about that (I was just explaining what I know from the Internet). The problem, as it seemed, is that you and Bloch staunchly refused to settle down the issue somehow. Please correct me if it's wrong. But I don't buy the "people that attack me is just jealous/trolling" argument, sorry. Assuming good faith is always better. To tell "I'm right and B is lying" is quite trollish too. To tell "I'm right, B probably hasn't understood that..." is another thing. And trying to do baby steps each in the direction of the other should always be strived for. It seems in this case that both failed to do that. Personally I'd have stepped down on licence issues if that meant more distribution for my code, but I'm not a serious programmer so I don't know if it holds for larger projects. However I'll have to review ye old flamewar to understand the issue. The problem, however, is that -being it your fault or not- that incident somehow made hard for some people to rely on your tools. :( > I am frequently meeting with Linux (and other OSS) people and I get frequent > invitations as speaker on Linux events. Noone from the people who attack me > did ever meet me..... Well, what does it mean? m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list