[gentoo-user] Music Retrieval

[gentoo-user] Music Retrieval

[sean]

Trying both Xine and Amarok neither is pulling in music info from the 
Internet.
Use flag cddb is present.

Later after emerging K3B Xine and Amarok starting pulling in cd info.
Since emerging some other packages, they have once again stopped.

Is anyone able to give me some tips as to what to check to cure this 
problem?

Tried re-emerging the apps and some other libraries, but no luck.

				Thanks
				Sean
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Re: [gentoo-user] Music Retrieval

[b.n.]

sean ha scritto:
> Trying both Xine and Amarok neither is pulling in music info from the
> Internet.
> Use flag cddb is present.
> 
> Later after emerging K3B Xine and Amarok starting pulling in cd info.
> Since emerging some other packages, they have once again stopped.
> 
> Is anyone able to give me some tips as to what to check to cure this
> problem?
>
> Tried re-emerging the apps and some other libraries, but no luck.

It seems more a problem with the cddb/freedb/whatever servers than with
your software...

Have you tried if the servers they try to connect are reachable from
you? Just to be sure it's not their fault.

m.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Music Retrieval

[sean]

b.n. wrote:
> sean ha scritto:
>> Trying both Xine and Amarok neither is pulling in music info from the
>> Internet.
>> Use flag cddb is present.
>>
>> Later after emerging K3B Xine and Amarok starting pulling in cd info.
>> Since emerging some other packages, they have once again stopped.
>>
>> Is anyone able to give me some tips as to what to check to cure this
>> problem?
>>
>> Tried re-emerging the apps and some other libraries, but no luck.
> 
> It seems more a problem with the cddb/freedb/whatever servers than with
> your software...
> 
> Have you tried if the servers they try to connect are reachable from
> you? Just to be sure it's not their fault.
> 
> m.

I can ping them.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Music Retrieval

[sjohnson]

I suspect they aren't sending the information via icmp, so just the fact
that the server is "pingable" really doesn't provide useful information in
this particular case.

>> Have you tried if the servers they try to connect are reachable from
>> you? Just to be sure it's not their fault.

>
> I can ping them.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Music Retrieval

[sean]

sjohnson@sbinsystems.com wrote:
> I suspect they aren't sending the information via icmp, so just the fact
> that the server is "pingable" really doesn't provide useful information in
> this particular case.
> 
>>> Have you tried if the servers they try to connect are reachable from
>>> you? Just to be sure it's not their fault.
> 
>> I can ping them.
> 
> 
I installed Audacious again and it works with error, I will just stick 
with that. I was only trying out Amarok.
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Music Retrieval

[Dan Farrell]

On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:01:08 -0400
sean <tech.junk@verizon.net> wrote:

> I was only trying out Amarok.

What did you think?  I thought it was super cool, except it's resource
utilization is so high i don't run it anymore if I can avoid.  

audacious seems almost completely better to me 

> I suspect they aren't sending the information via icmp, so just the
> fact that the server is "pingable" really doesn't provide useful
> information in this particular case.

yeah, but it is a lot more likely that the server would be down than
that it's just misconfigured.  servers go down all the time; they are
generally seldom administered.  so it seems to me a ping is a good
first step in testing access to these servers.  im guessing CDDB does
use IP, so if icmp can get through, so can tcp (udp,or any other
protocols encapsulated in ip).  
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Music Retrieval

[sean]

Dan Farrell wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:01:08 -0400
>
> 
>> I was only trying out Amarok.
> 
> What did you think?  I thought it was super cool, except it's resource
> utilization is so high i don't run it anymore if I can avoid.  

I thought it looked interesting, but much more then I really need.
Took a while for playback getting started when I put a music CD in the 
player.
Like the capabilities of Internet radio, played with a bit, before removal.

>> I suspect they aren't sending the information via icmp, so just the
>> fact that the server is "pingable" really doesn't provide useful
>> information in this particular case.
> 
> yeah, but it is a lot more likely that the server would be down than
> that it's just misconfigured.  servers go down all the time; they are
> generally seldom administered.  so it seems to me a ping is a good
> first step in testing access to these servers.  im guessing CDDB does
> use IP, so if icmp can get through, so can tcp (udp,or any other
> protocols encapsulated in ip).  

Audacious works fine on info retrieval, Amarok only worked a short bit, 
even when both installed together.
Still tend to think that something was not right when the package was 
emerged.
Anyway, I will stick with Audacious for now.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Music Retrieval

[sean]

sean wrote:

>>
> I installed Audacious again and it works with error, I will just stick 
> with that. I was only trying out Amarok.
That should have been without error.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Music Retrieval

[Dan Farrell]

On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:51:53 -0400
sean <tech.junk@verizon.net> wrote:

> sean wrote:
> 
> >>  
> > I installed Audacious again and it works with error, I will just
> > stick with that. I was only trying out Amarok.  
> That should have been without error.
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as fun as errors are, I think we all went ahead and assumed so ; )
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