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From: "Abraham Marín Pérez" <tecnic5@silvanoc.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:29:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <469CA811.9090505@silvanoc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <14178ED3A898524FB036966D696494FB138F1C@messenger.cv63.navy.mil>

burlingk@cv63.navy.mil escribió:
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Abraham Marín Pérez [mailto:tecnic5@silvanoc.com] 
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 7:43 PM
>> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
>> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??
>>
>>
>> burlingk@cv63.navy.mil escribió:
>>     
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: lunarcrisis@gmail.com [mailto:lunarcrisis@gmail.com] On
>>>> Behalf Of Henk Boom
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:08 AM
>>>> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??
>>>>         
>   
>   
>>> The four freedoms:
>>> Freedom 0: The freedom to run a program for any purpose. 
>>>       
>> Freedom 1: To 
>>     
>>> study the way a program works, and adapt it to your needs. 
>>>       
>> Freedom 2: 
>>     
>>> To redistribute copies so that you can help your neighbors. 
>>>       
>> Freedom 3: 
>>     
>>> Improve the program, and release your improvements to
>>>            the public, so that the whole community benefits.
>>> For freedom 1 and 3 to work, the code must be open.
>>>
>>> Freedom 1 is just as important as the other three. Freedom one is
>>> almost eliminated in GPLv3.  Freedom One is the freedom that was
>>> most whole heartedly expressed in the original manifesto.
>>>
>>> Freedom 3 is the one that GPLv3 is making most important 
>>>       
>> now. It does 
>>     
>>> so to the detriment of the other three.
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>> I'm not very into licenses and hence my question may seem evident (or 
>> even stupid) but still... does not Freedom 3 imply Freedom 1? I mean, 
>> how can you improve a program without being able to study it?
>>     
>
> :)
> The freedoms were listed before any license was written.
> They were the credo that the GNU foundation was founded upon.
> They were still the credo when the name became the Free Software Foundation.
> ^_^
>
> Now the direction of the organization has apparently changed.
> They are more interested in slowing down the competition than
> helping the community.  When they first started, the competition
> was still thought of as a part of the community.  :/
>
> I worry.
>   

Ok, so good intentions are falling apart and being substituted by 
mercantile minds, but still I can't see how freedom one can be 
threatened while enhancing freedom three, it just seems contradictory to me.

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-17 11:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-17 12:12 [gentoo-user] 2 to 3?? burlingk
2007-07-17 11:29 ` Abraham Marín Pérez [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-07-19 14:37 burlingk
2007-07-19  6:13 burlingk
2007-07-19  5:59 ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-07-19  5:54 burlingk
2007-07-18 11:07 burlingk
2007-07-18 12:29 ` Dan Cowsill
2007-07-18  4:26 burlingk
2007-07-18  4:18 burlingk
2007-07-17 17:57 burlingk
2007-07-18 13:51 ` Stroller
2007-07-17 17:38 burlingk
2007-07-17 17:27 ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-07-18 12:38   ` Alan McKinnon
2007-07-18 14:13     ` Stroller
2007-07-18 16:15     ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-07-18 13:48 ` Stroller
2007-07-18 16:33   ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-07-17 10:14 burlingk
2007-07-17 10:42 ` Abraham Marín Pérez
2007-07-17 11:01 ` Graham Murray
2007-07-17 12:48   ` Stroller
2007-07-17 16:19     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2007-07-18 13:13       ` Stroller
2007-07-18 17:40         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2007-07-18 18:10           ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-07-18 22:34           ` Stroller
2007-07-18 23:48             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2007-07-19  0:41               ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-07-19  2:10                 ` Stroller
2007-07-19  1:58               ` Stroller
2007-07-17 17:14 ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-07-17 19:29   ` Mike Edenfield
2007-07-16  0:52 burlingk
2007-07-16 12:15 ` Mark Shields
2007-07-16 21:53   ` Jerry McBride
2007-07-17  1:26     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2007-07-17  1:59       ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
2007-07-17  1:26   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2007-07-17  2:08     ` Henk Boom
2007-07-13 22:11 Jerry McBride
2007-07-13 22:27 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-07-18  9:28 ` b.n.
2007-07-18 16:23   ` Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.

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