[gentoo-user] emerge claws-mail

[gentoo-user] emerge claws-mail

[David Relson]

As I want the latest and greatest version of claws-mail
in /etc/portage/package.keywords I have: 

    mail-client/claws-mail

In directory /usr/portage/mail-client/claws-mail there are 3 ebuilds:


    claws-mail-2.9.1.ebuild
    claws-mail-2.9.2.ebuild
    claws-mail-2.10.0_rc1.ebuild


Their KEYWORDS lines are, respectively:

    KEYWORDS="alpha amd64 hppa ppc ppc64 sparc x86 ~x86-fbsd"
    KEYWORDS="~alpha ~amd64 ~hppa ~ppc ~ppc64 ~sparc ~x86 ~x86-fbsd"
    KEYWORDS="~alpha ~amd64 ~hppa ~ppc ~ppc64 ~sparc ~x86 ~x86-fbsd"

"emerge -pv claws-mail" outputs:

    These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

    Calculating dependencies  ..... ..... ........ done!

    [ebuild R ] mail-client/claws-mail-2.9.2 
                USE="bogofilter crypt dillo doc gnome spell ssl -clamav
                -imap -ipv6 -kde -ldap -pda -spamassassin
                -startup-notification -xface" 0 kB

    Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB

Why is emerge giving me 2.9.2 rather than the newer 2.10.0_rc1 ???

Thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge claws-mail

[Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman]

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David Relson wrote:
> Why is emerge giving me 2.9.2 rather than the newer 2.10.0_rc1 ???

try "emerge -upv claws-mail"

If you omit -u (means --upgrade), you will re-emerge currently installed version.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge claws-mail

[David Relson]

On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 21:09:43 -0300
Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote:

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> David Relson wrote:
> > Why is emerge giving me 2.9.2 rather than the newer 2.10.0_rc1 ???
> 
> try "emerge -upv claws-mail"
> 
> If you omit -u (means --upgrade), you will re-emerge currently
> installed version.

Here's the result of "emerge -upv claws-mail"

   These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
   Calculating dependencies  ..... ..... ........ done!
   Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 kB

Unfortunately it didn't help :-<



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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge claws-mail

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

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On Wednesday 04 July 2007 02:09:43 Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote:
> David Relson wrote:
> > Why is emerge giving me 2.9.2 rather than the newer 2.10.0_rc1 ???
>
> try "emerge -upv claws-mail"
>
> If you omit -u (means --upgrade), you will re-emerge currently installed
> version.

-u means direct deps will be updated too and that the target (in this case 
claws-mail) won't be remerged unless there's an upgrade (or downgrade). 
Without -u it still merges the latest visible version of the target itself..

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge claws-mail

[Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman]

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Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
> -u means direct deps will be updated too and that the target (in this case 
> claws-mail) won't be remerged unless there's an upgrade (or downgrade). 
> Without -u it still merges the latest visible version of the target itself..

- From man emerge:
       --update (-u)
              Updates  packages  to the best version available, which may not always be the highest
version number due to masking for testing and development.  This will also update direct
dependencies which may not be  what  you  want.   Package  atoms specified  on the command line are
greedy, meaning that unspecific atoms may match multiple installed versions of slot-ted packages.

You can use --nodeps, too, so you only update the specific package, with no deps.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge claws-mail

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

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On Thursday 05 July 2007 20:07:58 Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote:
> > -u means direct deps will be updated too and that the target (in this
> > case claws-mail) won't be remerged unless there's an upgrade (or
> > downgrade). Without -u it still merges the latest visible version of the
> > target itself..
>
> From man emerge:
>     --update (-u)
>         Updates packages  to the best version available, which may not
>         always be the highest version number due to masking for testing and
>         development. This will also update direct dependencies which may not
>         be what you  want. Package  atoms specified  on the command line are
>         greedy, meaning that unspecific atoms may match multiple installed
>         versions of slotted packages. 
>
> You can use --nodeps, too, so you only update the specific package, with no
> deps.

Why are you posting this? Was I unclear about anything?

If foo has a direct dependency on >=cat/bar-1.5 and you have =cat/bar-1.4 
installed then `emerge foo` will upgrade both foo and bar to latest visible 
versions because that direct dependency on bar is not satisfied. With -u the 
same would happen except foo won't be remerged if there is no upgrade. 
With --nodeps only foo would be upgraded or remerged despite the dependency 
on bar not being satisfied.

If instead you already had =cat/bar-1.5 installed then `emerge foo` would 
upgrade or remerge foo only because the dependency on bar is already 
satisfied. With --update bar would be upgraded if a later version is 
available even though it isn't necessary to satisfy the dependency. 
With --nodeps still only foo gets upgraded or remerged.

In summary --nodeps is potentially *very* dangerous. Don't use it unless you 
know what you are doing. Also don't use --update or --deep if you want to 
minimize the number of upgrades...

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge claws-mail

[Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman]

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Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
> Why are you posting this? Was I unclear about anything?

Nevermind, man.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge claws-mail

[Renat Golubchyk]

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On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 19:48:01 -0400 David Relson
<relson@osagesoftware.com> wrote:
> Why is emerge giving me 2.9.2 rather than the newer 2.10.0_rc1 ???

Because it is hard-masked in package.mask ;-) If you really want it you
can unmask it in /etc/portage/package.unmask

Cheers,
Renat

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge claws-mail

[David Relson]

On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 02:48:46 +0200
Renat Golubchyk wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 19:48:01 -0400 David Relson
> <relson@osagesoftware.com> wrote:
> > Why is emerge giving me 2.9.2 rather than the newer 2.10.0_rc1 ???
> 
> Because it is hard-masked in package.mask ;-) If you really want it
> you can unmask it in /etc/portage/package.unmask
> 
> Cheers,
> Renat

At present, /etc/portage only has package.keywords.  As package.mask is
not present, it's not hard masked.

Unmasking it in package.unmask does the trick.  I guess I had
package.keywords and package.unmask confused.  'Tis time to re-read the
man pages.

Thanks!

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge claws-mail

[Neil Bothwick]

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Hello David Relson,

> > Because it is hard-masked in package.mask ;-) If you really want it
> > you can unmask it in /etc/portage/package.unmask

> At present, /etc/portage only has package.keywords.  As package.mask is
> not present, it's not hard masked.

It is masked in /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask.

> Unmasking it in package.unmask does the trick.  I guess I had
> package.keywords and package.unmask confused.  'Tis time to re-read the
> man pages.

No, the two are different. package.unmask is used to override the profile
package.mask.

Incidentally, 2.10.0 is out now, but not yet in portage. Instead of
installing the rc, copy /usr/portage/mail-client/claws-mail to your
overlay and rename the ebuild to claws-mail-2.10.0.ebuild.


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge claws-mail

[David Relson]

On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 08:48:45 +0100
Neil Bothwick wrote:

> Hello David Relson,
> 
> > > Because it is hard-masked in package.mask ;-) If you really want
> > > it you can unmask it in /etc/portage/package.unmask
> 
> > At present, /etc/portage only has package.keywords.  As
> > package.mask is not present, it's not hard masked.
> 
> It is masked in /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask.
> 
> > Unmasking it in package.unmask does the trick.  I guess I had
> > package.keywords and package.unmask confused.  'Tis time to re-read
> > the man pages.
> 
> No, the two are different. package.unmask is used to override the
> profile package.mask.
> 
> Incidentally, 2.10.0 is out now, but not yet in portage. Instead of
> installing the rc, copy /usr/portage/mail-client/claws-mail to your
> overlay and rename the ebuild to claws-mail-2.10.0.ebuild.

With the addition of "emerge .../claws-mail-2.10.0.ebuild digest", I've
got the 2.10.0 build running ...

Thanks for the suggestion Neil.
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge claws-mail

[Roger Mason]

David Relson <relson@osagesoftware.com> writes:

> As I want the latest and greatest version of claws-mail
> in /etc/portage/package.keywords I have: 
>
>     mail-client/claws-mail
>

Should'nt that be 

mail-client/claws-mail ~x86

?

HTH,
Roger

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge claws-mail

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 07:27:54 -0230, Roger Mason wrote:

> > As I want the latest and greatest version of claws-mail
> > in /etc/portage/package.keywords I have: 
> >
> >     mail-client/claws-mail

> Should'nt that be 
> 
> mail-client/claws-mail ~x86

Why assume that everyone runs x86? If you don't specify an arch in
package.keywords, if defaults to ~whatever-arch-you-have-in-make.conf


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge claws-mail

[Roger Mason]

Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> writes:

> Why assume that everyone runs x86? If you don't specify an arch in
> package.keywords, if defaults to ~whatever-arch-you-have-in-make.conf
>
Thanks, learned something new.

Roger

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