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From: kashani <kashani-list@badapple.net>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 11:47:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <468A99A7.4020609@badapple.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49bf44f10707030907jaa9f524maef27beb2a7c9df@mail.gmail.com>

Grant wrote:
> In December 2006 I started a thread titled "Is Gentoo Healthy?" in
> which I was roundly put down for raising the possibility that the
> decline in the number of Gentoo users could possibly affect the
> remaining Gentoo users in a negative way.
> 
> Is everyone still toeing that line?  The Gentoo Weekly Newsletter
> hasn't been published in almost two months.  Is Gentoo destined to be
> just another distro starved for contributors and struggling to stay up
> to date?  If so, I really misjudged it.  The meta approach of Gentoo
> is superior to any other in my mind, and I think it's growth and
> potential are being stunted by the "we don't need them" attitude which
> perpetuates Gentoo's lack of usability features for beginners.
> 
> Gentoo needs as many users as possible to reach its potential.  It's a
> short-sighted mistake to think that non-contributing users do Gentoo
> no good.  Non-contributing users become contributors as time passes.
> Car mechanics all start as car drivers.
> 
> - Grant

	The startup I work for was bought last Oct. I spent four months 
migrating to Redhat ES 4.0 as well as dealing with some odd internal 
software decisions at the new company. Six months later the whole system 
still doesn't run as well or give me the flexibility I had with Gentoo.
	On top of that I get to deal with a poorly implemented, thought out, 
and extremely frustrating home grown package management tool that wishes 
it was one tenth as powerful as portage. Hell most days I'd rather have 
straight up RPM over the internal tools. And for anyone that thinks 
Fortune 1000 companies back port fixes of their PHP 5.1 package because 
their chosen distro doesn't include it (or ninety other packages we use) 
or test better than unknown thousands of Gentoo users running ~x86, let 
me disabuse you of that notion right now.

The grass always looks greener on the other side and in regards to 
Gentoo, it ain't.

kashani
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-07-03 18:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-03 16:07 [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return) Grant
2007-07-03 16:46 ` Mark Knecht
2007-07-03 17:14   ` Grant
2007-07-03 17:40     ` Mark Knecht
2007-07-03 17:41     ` Thierry de Coulon
2007-07-03 17:56       ` Jesús Guerrero
2007-07-03 22:00       ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2007-07-03 22:21       ` [gentoo-user] " Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-07-03 22:39       ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2007-07-03 18:13     ` [gentoo-user] " Alexander Skwar
2007-07-03 17:54 ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2007-07-03 18:10 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2007-07-03 18:47 ` kashani [this message]
2007-07-03 19:36 ` Paul Gibbons
2007-07-04  2:46 ` Edgar Contreras
2007-07-04  6:51 ` Kent Fredric
2007-07-08 16:48   ` Grant
2007-07-08 18:15     ` Mark Knecht
2007-07-09 14:07       ` Galevsky
2007-07-12  1:06         ` Thufir
2007-07-08 21:02     ` Thufir
2007-07-04  8:27 ` Paul Waring
2007-07-04  8:33 ` Danyelle Gragsone
2007-07-04 12:03   ` Colleen Beamer
     [not found]     ` <20070705001359.GB4927@sympatico.ca>
     [not found]       ` <200707042047.07423.mcbrides9@comcast.net>
2007-07-05  1:44         ` Dale
2007-07-06 17:47         ` kashani
2007-07-07 10:11           ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2007-07-07 10:56             ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2007-07-07 13:57               ` Dan Farrell
2007-07-07 16:29               ` david
2007-07-07 20:38               ` Kent Fredric
2007-07-07 14:12             ` Martin S
2007-07-07 14:16               ` Martin S
2007-07-07 16:53                 ` Neil Bothwick
2007-07-08  9:58                   ` Martin S
2007-07-08 16:40           ` [gentoo-user] " Grant
     [not found]   ` <20070705014010.GA26335@waltdnes.org>
2007-07-05  7:10     ` Paul Waring
2007-07-05  8:29       ` Kent Fredric
2007-07-05 13:59       ` Mark Knecht
2007-07-05  8:37     ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2007-07-05 11:04       ` David Relson
2007-07-06 10:12     ` [gentoo-user] " Mick
2007-07-04  9:27 ` Guillermo Antonio Amaral Bastidas

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